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		<title>By: Mule Face</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16444/a-fall-guys-final-fall/comment-page-1/#comment-107837</link>
		<dc:creator>Mule Face</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Domajot:

Congratulations.  You are the ultimate dupe.  The Dem manipulators have utterly pullled you in to their little scandal machine.  Dwell in your fantasy land.  I will simply laugh &amp; mock you.  Sorry, but your blather deserves nothing more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Domajot:</p>
<p>Congratulations.  You are the ultimate dupe.  The Dem manipulators have utterly pullled you in to their little scandal machine.  Dwell in your fantasy land.  I will simply laugh &#038; mock you.  Sorry, but your blather deserves nothing more.</p>
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		<title>By: domajot</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16444/a-fall-guys-final-fall/comment-page-1/#comment-107818</link>
		<dc:creator>domajot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mule-

 The Kristol article is an op ed piece, not a news story.  It&#039;s the source for an opinion, not the &#039;facts&#039; you keep alluding to.
The fact that you confuse opinion with facts probably explains the content of your comments.

We can conclude then, that you agree with Kristol.
That may be an interesting personal tidbit, but adds no facts to the discussion, at all.

What you are missing is that the outing of Plame goes way beyond her as an individual.  To what extent it endagered her life (and she is receiving death threats, though probably not from froreign powers) is only one aspect of the damage done by the outing.  The lives of anyone and everyone she had been in contact with while overseas were immediately in  danger.

Even Kristol, your source, cites the operations that had to be closed down as a result.

It is the customary meme of the Righ that no matter what they do, the Dems made them do it.  What those in the administration did, way before the Dems had a chance to make them do it, was to blab liberally about a CIA agent WITHOUT FINDING  OUT WHAT THE POTENTIAL DAMAGE COULD BE.  Anyone with a sense of priorities (country before political interests) would think twice the minute they see CIA next to a person&#039;s name.  The one thing about the spy agency that is not a secret is that it is a SPY agency.  

The grand jury investigation was a result of that negligence, and whether it was willful or not is less important than the fact that it was irresponsible negligence.                          

Libby was the only one caught in the trap, and because the proof of intent, a bar almost impossible to cross, is an intrinsic part of the law, he was found guilty of the seconday charge of lying to the investigators.

Pres Bush promised to deal with this.  Unless it&#039;s another one of those national secrity secrets, there has been no word that the issue of blabbing carelessly  about CIA agents has been dealt  with in any way at all.  At the very least, one would expect to hear that a new protocol for loose lips would be established.

This is as much about the agents still at the CIA as it is about Plame.  What if the next outed agent turns out to be a Republican devotee?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mule-</p>
<p> The Kristol article is an op ed piece, not a news story.  It&#8217;s the source for an opinion, not the &#8216;facts&#8217; you keep alluding to.<br />
The fact that you confuse opinion with facts probably explains the content of your comments.</p>
<p>We can conclude then, that you agree with Kristol.<br />
That may be an interesting personal tidbit, but adds no facts to the discussion, at all.</p>
<p>What you are missing is that the outing of Plame goes way beyond her as an individual.  To what extent it endagered her life (and she is receiving death threats, though probably not from froreign powers) is only one aspect of the damage done by the outing.  The lives of anyone and everyone she had been in contact with while overseas were immediately in  danger.</p>
<p>Even Kristol, your source, cites the operations that had to be closed down as a result.</p>
<p>It is the customary meme of the Righ that no matter what they do, the Dems made them do it.  What those in the administration did, way before the Dems had a chance to make them do it, was to blab liberally about a CIA agent WITHOUT FINDING  OUT WHAT THE POTENTIAL DAMAGE COULD BE.  Anyone with a sense of priorities (country before political interests) would think twice the minute they see CIA next to a person&#8217;s name.  The one thing about the spy agency that is not a secret is that it is a SPY agency.  </p>
<p>The grand jury investigation was a result of that negligence, and whether it was willful or not is less important than the fact that it was irresponsible negligence.                          </p>
<p>Libby was the only one caught in the trap, and because the proof of intent, a bar almost impossible to cross, is an intrinsic part of the law, he was found guilty of the seconday charge of lying to the investigators.</p>
<p>Pres Bush promised to deal with this.  Unless it&#8217;s another one of those national secrity secrets, there has been no word that the issue of blabbing carelessly  about CIA agents has been dealt  with in any way at all.  At the very least, one would expect to hear that a new protocol for loose lips would be established.</p>
<p>This is as much about the agents still at the CIA as it is about Plame.  What if the next outed agent turns out to be a Republican devotee?</p>
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		<title>By: Mule Face</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16444/a-fall-guys-final-fall/comment-page-1/#comment-107813</link>
		<dc:creator>Mule Face</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 07:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alright folks - from Nicholas Kristof of the NYT:

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E06E2D6153FF932A25753C1A9659C8B63

Relevant clip:

&quot;And now a few pertinent facts: 

First, the C.I.A. suspected that Aldrich Ames had given Mrs. Wilson&#039;s name (along with those of other spies) to the Russians before his espionage arrest in 1994. So her undercover security was undermined at that time, and she was brought back to Washington for safety reasons. 

Second, as Mrs. Wilson rose in the agency, she was already in transition away from undercover work to management, and to liaison roles with other intelligence agencies. So this year, even before she was outed, she was moving away from &#039;&#039;noc&#039;&#039; -- which means non-official cover, like pretending to be a business executive. After passing as an energy analyst for Brewster-Jennings &amp; Associates, a C.I.A. front company, she was switching to a new cover as a State Department official, affording her diplomatic protection without having &#039;&#039;C.I.A.&#039;&#039; stamped on her forehead. 

Third, Mrs. Wilson&#039;s intelligence connections became known a bit in Washington as she rose in the C.I.A. and moved to State Department cover, but her job remained a closely held secret. Even her classmates in the C.I.A.&#039;s career training program mostly knew her only as Valerie P. That way, if one spook defected, the damage would be limited. 

All in all, I think the Democrats are engaging in hyperbole when they describe the White House as having put Mrs. Wilson&#039;s life in danger and destroyed her career; her days skulking along the back alleys of cities like Beirut and Algiers were already mostly over. 

Moreover, the Democrats cheapen the debate with calls, at the very beginning of the process, for a special counsel to investigate the White House&quot;

It was a politicized &quot;scandal&quot; all along.  And you minions are willing dupes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alright folks &#8211; from Nicholas Kristof of the NYT:</p>
<p><a href="http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E06E2D6153FF932A25753C1A9659C8B63" rel="nofollow">http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E06E2D6153FF932A25753C1A9659C8B63</a></p>
<p>Relevant clip:</p>
<p>&#8220;And now a few pertinent facts: </p>
<p>First, the C.I.A. suspected that Aldrich Ames had given Mrs. Wilson&#8217;s name (along with those of other spies) to the Russians before his espionage arrest in 1994. So her undercover security was undermined at that time, and she was brought back to Washington for safety reasons. </p>
<p>Second, as Mrs. Wilson rose in the agency, she was already in transition away from undercover work to management, and to liaison roles with other intelligence agencies. So this year, even before she was outed, she was moving away from &#8221;noc&#8221; &#8212; which means non-official cover, like pretending to be a business executive. After passing as an energy analyst for Brewster-Jennings &#038; Associates, a C.I.A. front company, she was switching to a new cover as a State Department official, affording her diplomatic protection without having &#8221;C.I.A.&#8221; stamped on her forehead. </p>
<p>Third, Mrs. Wilson&#8217;s intelligence connections became known a bit in Washington as she rose in the C.I.A. and moved to State Department cover, but her job remained a closely held secret. Even her classmates in the C.I.A.&#8217;s career training program mostly knew her only as Valerie P. That way, if one spook defected, the damage would be limited. </p>
<p>All in all, I think the Democrats are engaging in hyperbole when they describe the White House as having put Mrs. Wilson&#8217;s life in danger and destroyed her career; her days skulking along the back alleys of cities like Beirut and Algiers were already mostly over. </p>
<p>Moreover, the Democrats cheapen the debate with calls, at the very beginning of the process, for a special counsel to investigate the White House&#8221;</p>
<p>It was a politicized &#8220;scandal&#8221; all along.  And you minions are willing dupes.</p>
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		<title>By: kritt</title>
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		<dc:creator>kritt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 00:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Muleface- It is you who are ignorant. Even General Hayden advised Congress that Plame was covert- she traveled overseas and headed Brewster Jennings a front for her operation. And Wilson only called attention to the administration&#039;s treason. He already had made a name for himself, but was baffled as to why the SOTU still contained the claim that Saddam was trying to get yellowcake from Niger, after it had been debunked.

The right wing media has its alternate universe of &quot;facts&quot;  about the leak case. If there was no crime the CIA wouldn&#039;t have asked for DOJ to investigate the leak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Muleface- It is you who are ignorant. Even General Hayden advised Congress that Plame was covert- she traveled overseas and headed Brewster Jennings a front for her operation. And Wilson only called attention to the administration&#8217;s treason. He already had made a name for himself, but was baffled as to why the SOTU still contained the claim that Saddam was trying to get yellowcake from Niger, after it had been debunked.</p>
<p>The right wing media has its alternate universe of &#8220;facts&#8221;  about the leak case. If there was no crime the CIA wouldn&#8217;t have asked for DOJ to investigate the leak.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Waxman isn’t the only one. Think of all the hundreds of investigations held by the GOP during the Clinton years–some have just recently ended.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Yes.  The article to which I linked (I didn&#039;t say anything about it earlier, but yes, I read it first, of course!) was quite positive of Waxman (Dems are).  (And it discusses the demands made of Clinton and his administration during that time.)  His demeanor is irritating but I suppose I could say he&#039;s not as bad as, for example, Schumer often is.  That hardly constitutes &quot;scrubbing&quot; or &quot;sanitizing&quot; Waxman, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Waxman isn’t the only one. Think of all the hundreds of investigations held by the GOP during the Clinton years–some have just recently ended.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes.  The article to which I linked (I didn&#8217;t say anything about it earlier, but yes, I read it first, of course!) was quite positive of Waxman (Dems are).  (And it discusses the demands made of Clinton and his administration during that time.)  His demeanor is irritating but I suppose I could say he&#8217;s not as bad as, for example, Schumer often is.  That hardly constitutes &#8220;scrubbing&#8221; or &#8220;sanitizing&#8221; Waxman, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Pyst</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pyst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Try doing a little research that isn’t from your favorite partisan hacks. Yet I doubt you will bother. Can’t destroy your favorite myth.&quot;

The CIA is a partisan hack?

Her husband did what anyone with a conscence would have done by not going along with a lie. I wouldn&#039;t call that trying to make a name for himself.

Plame was working in Dubai at a CIA front company gathering intel on....get this....WMD&#039;s. So yeah they had to go so the lies wouldn&#039;t have outed even worse.

So how are those WMD&#039;s in Iraq claims comming, you hack loving goob LOL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Try doing a little research that isn’t from your favorite partisan hacks. Yet I doubt you will bother. Can’t destroy your favorite myth.&#8221;</p>
<p>The CIA is a partisan hack?</p>
<p>Her husband did what anyone with a conscence would have done by not going along with a lie. I wouldn&#8217;t call that trying to make a name for himself.</p>
<p>Plame was working in Dubai at a CIA front company gathering intel on&#8230;.get this&#8230;.WMD&#8217;s. So yeah they had to go so the lies wouldn&#8217;t have outed even worse.</p>
<p>So how are those WMD&#8217;s in Iraq claims comming, you hack loving goob LOL.</p>
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		<title>By: Mule Face</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mule Face</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Megaman, kritt &amp; domajot:

Your comments reflect only your own ignorance.  The person who really &quot;outed&quot; Valerie was her husband, who was so determined to make a name for himself.  The story would have died unnoticed if he hadn&#039;t picked it up again months later.

Final fact - Valerie was not &quot;covert&quot; under the meaning of the intelligence law, for a basic, yet profound reason.  She had been exposed in another scandal from the 90&#039;s - by the notorious Aldrich Ames.  That&#039;s why she had been a desk jocky in DC for years.

Try doing a little research that isn&#039;t from your favorite partisan hacks.  Yet I doubt you will bother.  Can&#039;t destroy your favorite myth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Megaman, kritt &#038; domajot:</p>
<p>Your comments reflect only your own ignorance.  The person who really &#8220;outed&#8221; Valerie was her husband, who was so determined to make a name for himself.  The story would have died unnoticed if he hadn&#8217;t picked it up again months later.</p>
<p>Final fact &#8211; Valerie was not &#8220;covert&#8221; under the meaning of the intelligence law, for a basic, yet profound reason.  She had been exposed in another scandal from the 90&#8217;s &#8211; by the notorious Aldrich Ames.  That&#8217;s why she had been a desk jocky in DC for years.</p>
<p>Try doing a little research that isn&#8217;t from your favorite partisan hacks.  Yet I doubt you will bother.  Can&#8217;t destroy your favorite myth.</p>
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		<title>By: domajot</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16444/a-fall-guys-final-fall/comment-page-1/#comment-107699</link>
		<dc:creator>domajot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 13:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mule -
&quot;he’s the only head the Democratic scandal machine has managed to procure&quot;

i would really help if we kept to the facts.

Libby wasn&#039;t  &#039;procured&#039; by anyone except a grand jury investigaion, led by someone appointed by the Republican administration.. 
Throwing words around just because they sound 
to some folks is not productive in any discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mule -<br />
&#8220;he’s the only head the Democratic scandal machine has managed to procure&#8221;</p>
<p>i would really help if we kept to the facts.</p>
<p>Libby wasn&#8217;t  &#8216;procured&#8217; by anyone except a grand jury investigaion, led by someone appointed by the Republican administration..<br />
Throwing words around just because they sound<br />
to some folks is not productive in any discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: kritt</title>
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		<dc:creator>kritt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 02:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Muleface- Sorry you missed the point about the administration&#039;s lame attempt to out a CIA agent and then cover it up. Remember Bush promised to launch an internal investigation into the leak---and get rid of the leakers ---but NEVER did. Scooter took a bullet for his boss, and the commutation/upcoming pardon is his reward for keeping his trap shut.

 A compliant AG helped hide the rest of the messes behind expanded claims of executive privilege.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Muleface- Sorry you missed the point about the administration&#8217;s lame attempt to out a CIA agent and then cover it up. Remember Bush promised to launch an internal investigation into the leak&#8212;and get rid of the leakers &#8212;but NEVER did. Scooter took a bullet for his boss, and the commutation/upcoming pardon is his reward for keeping his trap shut.</p>
<p> A compliant AG helped hide the rest of the messes behind expanded claims of executive privilege.</p>
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		<title>By: kritt</title>
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		<dc:creator>kritt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 02:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DLS- Waxman isn&#039;t the only one. Think of all the hundreds of investigations held by the GOP during the Clinton years--some have just recently ended. In any case the Justice Dept scandal and the CIA leak case were real enough, so was the recent problem with Blackwater. After years of no oversight and lots of excesses, the Bush administration deserves Waxman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DLS- Waxman isn&#8217;t the only one. Think of all the hundreds of investigations held by the GOP during the Clinton years&#8211;some have just recently ended. In any case the Justice Dept scandal and the CIA leak case were real enough, so was the recent problem with Blackwater. After years of no oversight and lots of excesses, the Bush administration deserves Waxman.</p>
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		<title>By: Megaman_X</title>
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		<dc:creator>Megaman_X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 02:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry about putting up so much text, Shaun. I didn&#039;t think simply linking to the articles in Wikipedia about Valerie Plame and Libby would be specific enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry about putting up so much text, Shaun. I didn&#8217;t think simply linking to the articles in Wikipedia about Valerie Plame and Libby would be specific enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Megaman_X</title>
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		<dc:creator>Megaman_X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 02:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mule Face: &quot;Scooter Libby was primarily guilty of being in the middle of a nasty political fight. His role was utterly insignificant&quot;

WIKIPEDIA: Between 2003 and 2005 intense speculation centered on the possibility that Libby may have been the administration official who had &quot;leaked&quot; classified employment information about Valerie E. Wilson (aka &quot;Valerie Plame&quot;), the wife of Iraq war critic Joseph Wilson and a covert CIA agent, to New York Times reporter Judith Miller and other reporters and later tried to hide his having done so. In August 2005, as revealed in grand jury testimony audiotapes played during the trial and reported in many news accounts, &lt;strong&gt;Libby testified that he met with Judith Miller, a reporter with the New York Times, on July 8, 2003, and discussed Plame with her&lt;/strong&gt;.

Mule Face: &quot;other than the fact that he’s the only head the Democratic scandal machine has managed to procure.&quot;
 
WIKIPEDIA: On 2 July 2005, Karl Rove&#039;s lawyer, Robert Luskin, said that his client spoke to TIME reporter Matt Cooper &quot;three or four days&quot; before &lt;strong&gt;Plame&#039;s identity was first revealed in print by commentator Robert Novak. &lt;/strong&gt;
...
After refusing to testify about her July 2003 meeting with Libby, &lt;strong&gt;Judith Miller was jailed on July 7, 2005 for contempt of court&lt;/strong&gt;. Months later, however, her new attorney, Robert Bennett, told her that she already had possessed a written, voluntary waiver from Libby all along.

Oh, and why are you calling Shaun a partisan Democrat? All he&#039;s doing is reporting on Libby dropping his appeal. People who say Bush should have not commuted his sentence (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/07/10/america/NA-GEN-US-Libby-Poll.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;66%, by the looks of it&lt;/a&gt;) would want to hear about this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mule Face: &#8220;Scooter Libby was primarily guilty of being in the middle of a nasty political fight. His role was utterly insignificant&#8221;</p>
<p>WIKIPEDIA: Between 2003 and 2005 intense speculation centered on the possibility that Libby may have been the administration official who had &#8220;leaked&#8221; classified employment information about Valerie E. Wilson (aka &#8220;Valerie Plame&#8221;), the wife of Iraq war critic Joseph Wilson and a covert CIA agent, to New York Times reporter Judith Miller and other reporters and later tried to hide his having done so. In August 2005, as revealed in grand jury testimony audiotapes played during the trial and reported in many news accounts, <strong>Libby testified that he met with Judith Miller, a reporter with the New York Times, on July 8, 2003, and discussed Plame with her</strong>.</p>
<p>Mule Face: &#8220;other than the fact that he’s the only head the Democratic scandal machine has managed to procure.&#8221;</p>
<p>WIKIPEDIA: On 2 July 2005, Karl Rove&#8217;s lawyer, Robert Luskin, said that his client spoke to TIME reporter Matt Cooper &#8220;three or four days&#8221; before <strong>Plame&#8217;s identity was first revealed in print by commentator Robert Novak. </strong><br />
&#8230;<br />
After refusing to testify about her July 2003 meeting with Libby, <strong>Judith Miller was jailed on July 7, 2005 for contempt of court</strong>. Months later, however, her new attorney, Robert Bennett, told her that she already had possessed a written, voluntary waiver from Libby all along.</p>
<p>Oh, and why are you calling Shaun a partisan Democrat? All he&#8217;s doing is reporting on Libby dropping his appeal. People who say Bush should have not commuted his sentence (<a href="http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/07/10/america/NA-GEN-US-Libby-Poll.php" rel="nofollow">66%, by the looks of it</a>) would want to hear about this.</p>
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		<title>By: Mule Face</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mule Face</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 02:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scooter Libby was primarily guilty of being in the middle of a nasty political fight.  His role was utterly insignificant - other than the fact that he&#039;s the only head the Democratic scandal machine has managed to procure.  The obsession which Shaun and other partisan Dems continue to display with the ridiculous Plame non-scandal would be amusing were it not for the ridiculous waste of time and government money.  A few Washington law firms made out pretty well though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scooter Libby was primarily guilty of being in the middle of a nasty political fight.  His role was utterly insignificant &#8211; other than the fact that he&#8217;s the only head the Democratic scandal machine has managed to procure.  The obsession which Shaun and other partisan Dems continue to display with the ridiculous Plame non-scandal would be amusing were it not for the ridiculous waste of time and government money.  A few Washington law firms made out pretty well though.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Satterfield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Satterfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 01:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only bad reputation Waxman has, according to the story that DLS linked to, is among Republican defenders of the Bush administration. This shouldn&#039;t surprise anyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only bad reputation Waxman has, according to the story that DLS linked to, is among Republican defenders of the Bush administration. This shouldn&#8217;t surprise anyone.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 00:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Waxman loves to politicize anything and everything he can.  His reputation is so well-established that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2007/05/28/MNGV7Q2QGK1.DTL&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the following story&lt;/a&gt; (containing a phrase used by Shaun to start this thread; must be common, too) begins by stating the reputation he has among so many.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Waxman loves to politicize anything and everything he can.  His reputation is so well-established that <a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2007/05/28/MNGV7Q2QGK1.DTL" rel="nofollow">the following story</a> (containing a phrase used by Shaun to start this thread; must be common, too) begins by stating the reputation he has among so many.</p>
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		<title>By: Megaman_X</title>
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		<dc:creator>Megaman_X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 00:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;He’s a constantly annoying partisan Democrat attack dog, who has long deserved to be muzzled.&lt;/blockquote&gt;For what? The people he&#039;s invested his time and energy into investigating are some of the most corrupt, entrenched allies of the Bush administration, like Gonzo and Libby. These guys were schmucks; they should be put behind bars for their crimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>He’s a constantly annoying partisan Democrat attack dog, who has long deserved to be muzzled.</p></blockquote>
<p>For what? The people he&#8217;s invested his time and energy into investigating are some of the most corrupt, entrenched allies of the Bush administration, like Gonzo and Libby. These guys were schmucks; they should be put behind bars for their crimes.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That Thanksgiving turkey named &quot;Scooter&quot; is notice to all -- I bet Libby is the first guy pardoned during the second Christmas season for Republicans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That Thanksgiving turkey named &#8220;Scooter&#8221; is notice to all &#8212; I bet Libby is the first guy pardoned during the second Christmas season for Republicans.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Henry “Mr. Investigation” Waxman, the dogged Democrat from California&lt;/blockquote&gt;

He&#039;s a constantly annoying partisan Democrat attack dog, who has long deserved to be muzzled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Henry “Mr. Investigation” Waxman, the dogged Democrat from California</p></blockquote>
<p>He&#8217;s a constantly annoying partisan Democrat attack dog, who has long deserved to be muzzled.</p>
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		<title>By: kritt</title>
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		<dc:creator>kritt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The appeal, like OJ&#039;s quest to find the &quot;real killers&quot; ten years ago, was always only for the sake of appearances.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The appeal, like OJ&#8217;s quest to find the &#8220;real killers&#8221; ten years ago, was always only for the sake of appearances.</p>
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