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	<title>Comments on: Gore Nobel Speech: &#8220;Planetary Crisis&#8221; Requires U.S., China Role</title>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16441/gore-nobel-speech-planetary-crisis-requires-us-china-role/comment-page-1/#comment-107759</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AZChas said nearly all that merited saying here and I added the rest.  Lying about me and engaging in continued poor behavior doesn&#039;t accomplish anything positive for you, even if you believe so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AZChas said nearly all that merited saying here and I added the rest.  Lying about me and engaging in continued poor behavior doesn&#8217;t accomplish anything positive for you, even if you believe so.</p>
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		<title>By: domajot</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16441/gore-nobel-speech-planetary-crisis-requires-us-china-role/comment-page-1/#comment-107692</link>
		<dc:creator>domajot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the hast to tear Gore to shreds, the most important part of Gore&#039;s speech has been ignored.
That tis the importance of  bringing China, as well as the US, into the solution process.  
So far, the US has been using China as an excuse for not going forward (there&#039;s always an excuse).  Instead, the focus should be on bringing China into the process.
We could lead, but we are choosing to give up the 
lead  to innovators from other countries.
Too bad for the US.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the hast to tear Gore to shreds, the most important part of Gore&#8217;s speech has been ignored.<br />
That tis the importance of  bringing China, as well as the US, into the solution process.<br />
So far, the US has been using China as an excuse for not going forward (there&#8217;s always an excuse).  Instead, the focus should be on bringing China into the process.<br />
We could lead, but we are choosing to give up the<br />
lead  to innovators from other countries.<br />
Too bad for the US.</p>
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		<title>By: domajot</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16441/gore-nobel-speech-planetary-crisis-requires-us-china-role/comment-page-1/#comment-107691</link>
		<dc:creator>domajot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some people just can&#039;t stand being wrong.  They  have to throw fits when it becomes apparent that they are, which is a sign of immaturity at pre-school levels.

From Bush&#039;s WH &quot;editing&#039; scientific papers, through the oil industry&#039;s finanacing psuedo-scientific studies and disinformation, the deny and demean campaign has been on full blast.

The administration has swallowed hard and is finally referring to &#039;climate change&#039;  It will probably be another 10 years before they manage to get their lips around &#039;global warming&#039;.
By then, as individual states, entreprenerus and other countries  surge ahead to deal with the matter, no one will care what they&#039;re yelling about. They&#039;ll eventually be just a foot note in history, like those outraged when the earth turned out not be flat or the sun turned out to be the center of the universe.

From the start, this has never been about science with these folks.  It&#039;s been about money and power and paranoia about anything new.

Now, it would be wise to have a reasonable discussion about the economics involved as well as best methods and techniques.  But &#039;reasonable discussion&#039; is not possible when name-calling and character assasination are so much preferred.

It&#039;s up to these folks to choose just how low they want to sink and how ridiculous they want to reveal themselves to be while the world marches on without them. and GORE IS FETED AROUND THE GLOBE.
It&#039;s been quite a pattern for America to reject creative people and innovators. They&#039;re welcomed only when there&#039;s an immediate profit to be made off of them.  This fits right in with the pattern.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some people just can&#8217;t stand being wrong.  They  have to throw fits when it becomes apparent that they are, which is a sign of immaturity at pre-school levels.</p>
<p>From Bush&#8217;s WH &#8220;editing&#8217; scientific papers, through the oil industry&#8217;s finanacing psuedo-scientific studies and disinformation, the deny and demean campaign has been on full blast.</p>
<p>The administration has swallowed hard and is finally referring to &#8216;climate change&#8217;  It will probably be another 10 years before they manage to get their lips around &#8216;global warming&#8217;.<br />
By then, as individual states, entreprenerus and other countries  surge ahead to deal with the matter, no one will care what they&#8217;re yelling about. They&#8217;ll eventually be just a foot note in history, like those outraged when the earth turned out not be flat or the sun turned out to be the center of the universe.</p>
<p>From the start, this has never been about science with these folks.  It&#8217;s been about money and power and paranoia about anything new.</p>
<p>Now, it would be wise to have a reasonable discussion about the economics involved as well as best methods and techniques.  But &#8216;reasonable discussion&#8217; is not possible when name-calling and character assasination are so much preferred.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s up to these folks to choose just how low they want to sink and how ridiculous they want to reveal themselves to be while the world marches on without them. and GORE IS FETED AROUND THE GLOBE.<br />
It&#8217;s been quite a pattern for America to reject creative people and innovators. They&#8217;re welcomed only when there&#8217;s an immediate profit to be made off of them.  This fits right in with the pattern.</p>
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		<title>By: Rudi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 02:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Freepers are out howling at the Moonbats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Freepers are out howling at the Moonbats.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16441/gore-nobel-speech-planetary-crisis-requires-us-china-role/comment-page-1/#comment-107666</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 00:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; GDS &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Myth.

&lt;blockquote&gt;person working in the best interest of everyone&lt;/blockquote&gt;

False.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Sour grapes &lt;/blockquote&gt;

False.

&lt;blockquote&gt;How screwed up is our electorate &lt;/blockquote&gt;

He is taken seriously and even worshipped as a rock star and philosopher-statesman (the true derangement).  No wonder his stuff sells so well.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> GDS </p></blockquote>
<p>Myth.</p>
<blockquote><p>person working in the best interest of everyone</p></blockquote>
<p>False.</p>
<blockquote><p>Sour grapes </p></blockquote>
<p>False.</p>
<blockquote><p>How screwed up is our electorate </p></blockquote>
<p>He is taken seriously and even worshipped as a rock star and philosopher-statesman (the true derangement).  No wonder his stuff sells so well.</p>
<p>[sigh]</p>
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		<title>By: JSpencer</title>
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		<dc:creator>JSpencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 00:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I already knew GDS was going to be in full sail when I got here... and you guys didn&#039;t let me down! How screwed up is our electorate when some folks would rather mock the efforts of a person working in the best interest of everyone, and act as apologists for those who trample the same concept. Sour grapes is the polite label for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I already knew GDS was going to be in full sail when I got here&#8230; and you guys didn&#8217;t let me down! How screwed up is our electorate when some folks would rather mock the efforts of a person working in the best interest of everyone, and act as apologists for those who trample the same concept. Sour grapes is the polite label for it.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16441/gore-nobel-speech-planetary-crisis-requires-us-china-role/comment-page-1/#comment-107657</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Thank God for lefty celebs who can represent the US abroad without a cloud of shame over them.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Trying to steal an election after losing it was shameful, as has been the celebrity activism.

You can&#039;t truthfully say Gore fits your description.

The Nobel Peace Price PC-joke organization is shameful, too, incidentally.

And as someone just mentioned with a wry laugh as we were talking about creating a modern Chinook &quot;Guns-a-Go-Go&quot;: &quot;Heh, heh.  Vietnam was the first nation to experience warmer climate.&quot;  (Fwooffff!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Thank God for lefty celebs who can represent the US abroad without a cloud of shame over them.</p></blockquote>
<p>Trying to steal an election after losing it was shameful, as has been the celebrity activism.</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t truthfully say Gore fits your description.</p>
<p>The Nobel Peace Price PC-joke organization is shameful, too, incidentally.</p>
<p>And as someone just mentioned with a wry laugh as we were talking about creating a modern Chinook &#8220;Guns-a-Go-Go&#8221;: &#8220;Heh, heh.  Vietnam was the first nation to experience warmer climate.&#8221;  (Fwooffff!)</p>
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		<title>By: domajot</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16441/gore-nobel-speech-planetary-crisis-requires-us-china-role/comment-page-1/#comment-107654</link>
		<dc:creator>domajot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank God for lefty celebs who can represent the US abroad without a cloud of shame over them.

The US happily pollutes the atmopshere while obstructing efforts to mitigate the damage.

Luckily,tthere are righties coming on board, having finally pulled their heads from the sand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank God for lefty celebs who can represent the US abroad without a cloud of shame over them.</p>
<p>The US happily pollutes the atmopshere while obstructing efforts to mitigate the damage.</p>
<p>Luckily,tthere are righties coming on board, having finally pulled their heads from the sand.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Al Gore is simply a lefty-celeb who has chosen global warming as a &quot;cause&quot; that will enrich him.  As already noted, the Nobel Peace Prize is a PC joke.

Meanwhile, from a relevent quote he made:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;They go on in strange paradox, decided only to be undecided, resolved to be irresolute, adamant for drift, solid for fluidity, all powerful to be impotent.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

How ironic to say that now, as it is so true about those denying the threats presented by Iran!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Al Gore is simply a lefty-celeb who has chosen global warming as a &#8220;cause&#8221; that will enrich him.  As already noted, the Nobel Peace Prize is a PC joke.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, from a relevent quote he made:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;They go on in strange paradox, decided only to be undecided, resolved to be irresolute, adamant for drift, solid for fluidity, all powerful to be impotent.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>How ironic to say that now, as it is so true about those denying the threats presented by Iran!</p>
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		<title>By: AZChas</title>
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		<dc:creator>AZChas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As if we needed further proof (after Yasser Arafat&#039;s award in &#039;94) that the Nobel Peace Prize is a meaningless statement of the latest PC cause among the world&#039;s intelligentsia. But it could be worse... Gore might have been President! This will keep him on the lecture circuit and off the streets for a few years more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As if we needed further proof (after Yasser Arafat&#8217;s award in &#8217;94) that the Nobel Peace Prize is a meaningless statement of the latest PC cause among the world&#8217;s intelligentsia. But it could be worse&#8230; Gore might have been President! This will keep him on the lecture circuit and off the streets for a few years more.</p>
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