Comments on: Televangelists: 4 out of 6 miss Senator Grassley’s Investigation Deadline for Their Records In Depth http://themoderatevoice.com/16396/televangelists-4-out-of-6-miss-senator-grassleys-investigation-deadline-for-their-records-in-depth/ An Internet hub for moderates, centrists, and independents, with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, and right Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:03:14 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: DLS http://themoderatevoice.com/16396/televangelists-4-out-of-6-miss-senator-grassleys-investigation-deadline-for-their-records-in-depth/comment-page-1/#comment-107358 DLS Sat, 08 Dec 2007 00:06:06 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/society/moral-values/16396/televangelists-4-out-of-6-miss-senator-grassleys-investigation-deadline-for-their-records-in-depth/#comment-107358 The federal government has no right whatsoever to pry into what are correctly state or local affairs, but that's not true when the issues are: * Mail fraud * <strong>Tax fraud</strong>. Don't mess with the IRS! The federal government has no right whatsoever to pry into what are correctly state or local affairs, but that’s not true when the issues are:

* Mail fraud

* Tax fraud. Don’t mess with the IRS!

]]> By: Rudi http://themoderatevoice.com/16396/televangelists-4-out-of-6-miss-senator-grassleys-investigation-deadline-for-their-records-in-depth/comment-page-1/#comment-107293 Rudi Fri, 07 Dec 2007 17:37:06 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/society/moral-values/16396/televangelists-4-out-of-6-miss-senator-grassleys-investigation-deadline-for-their-records-in-depth/#comment-107293 LOL SD gives his canned response and somebody gives a comment that no one can criticize. These con men and women preach - prosperity theology - for themselves. LOL SD gives his canned response and somebody gives a comment that no one can criticize. These con men and women preach – prosperity theology – for themselves.

]]> By: superdestroyer http://themoderatevoice.com/16396/televangelists-4-out-of-6-miss-senator-grassleys-investigation-deadline-for-their-records-in-depth/comment-page-1/#comment-107285 superdestroyer Fri, 07 Dec 2007 16:59:01 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/society/moral-values/16396/televangelists-4-out-of-6-miss-senator-grassleys-investigation-deadline-for-their-records-in-depth/#comment-107285 davebo, In case you have not noticed, white liberal Democrats love to attack non-mainstream protestant demoninations (those demoninations that are not shrinking). However, the comtempt that many on the left have for religions only seems to apply to whites. The left is quiet willing to ignore the very religious nature of many blacks and Hispanics. While Grassley is going after less than honest mass market religion, it should have left Creflo Dollar and Bishop Eddie Long out of it. By including them, Senator Grassley automatically puts the CBC on the opposite side of the issue. Senator Grassley can also count of the race card being played. In the end, the senator would have been better off attacking only white ministries until he establishes the need for new regulations. The inclusion of black ministeries almost ensures that nothing will come of his efforts. davebo,

In case you have not noticed, white liberal Democrats love to attack non-mainstream protestant demoninations (those demoninations that are not shrinking). However, the comtempt that many on the left have for religions only seems to apply to whites. The left is quiet willing to ignore the very religious nature of many blacks and Hispanics.

While Grassley is going after less than honest mass market religion, it should have left Creflo Dollar and Bishop Eddie Long out of it. By including them, Senator Grassley automatically puts the CBC on the opposite side of the issue. Senator Grassley can also count of the race card being played.

In the end, the senator would have been better off attacking only white ministries until he establishes the need for new regulations. The inclusion of black ministeries almost ensures that nothing will come of his efforts.

]]> By: Davebo http://themoderatevoice.com/16396/televangelists-4-out-of-6-miss-senator-grassleys-investigation-deadline-for-their-records-in-depth/comment-page-1/#comment-107282 Davebo Fri, 07 Dec 2007 16:26:46 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/society/moral-values/16396/televangelists-4-out-of-6-miss-senator-grassleys-investigation-deadline-for-their-records-in-depth/#comment-107282 Who is that? Oh, it's SuperDestroyer! Heck, I almost didn't recognize you without your sheets on. Who is that?

Oh, it’s SuperDestroyer!

Heck, I almost didn’t recognize you without your sheets on.

]]> By: superdestroyer http://themoderatevoice.com/16396/televangelists-4-out-of-6-miss-senator-grassleys-investigation-deadline-for-their-records-in-depth/comment-page-1/#comment-107281 superdestroyer Fri, 07 Dec 2007 16:21:00 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/society/moral-values/16396/televangelists-4-out-of-6-miss-senator-grassleys-investigation-deadline-for-their-records-in-depth/#comment-107281 Grassley's staffers must be idiots. The first round of televangalist should only have included whites. To include two black ministers ensures that the race card will eventaully be played and ensures that Democrats will have to avoid this issue. Grassley’s staffers must be idiots. The first round of televangalist should only have included whites. To include two black ministers ensures that the race card will eventaully be played and ensures that Democrats will have to avoid this issue.

]]> By: Somebody http://themoderatevoice.com/16396/televangelists-4-out-of-6-miss-senator-grassleys-investigation-deadline-for-their-records-in-depth/comment-page-1/#comment-107271 Somebody Fri, 07 Dec 2007 13:59:56 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/society/moral-values/16396/televangelists-4-out-of-6-miss-senator-grassleys-investigation-deadline-for-their-records-in-depth/#comment-107271 From a Christian who Looks to GOD and not man for his comfort. I hope that somehow we can hold these people accountable because many of them in the end are not Christians, do not have any religious convictions and are just your average swindling thief out to steal peoples, hearts, souls and more importantly their money. Some are not. However. If they are guilty then I would hope they are treated with the same respect that we give all Thiefs, embezzlers and con artists. Throw them in jail. Clean up the airwaves because honestly I understand when people rail against Christianity I know it is these and their type they are pointing too and not the hard working man and woman raising a family in anywhere USA. From a Christian who Looks to GOD and not man for his comfort.

I hope that somehow we can hold these people accountable because many of them in the end are not Christians, do not have any religious convictions and are just your average swindling thief out to steal peoples, hearts, souls and more importantly their money.

Some are not. However.

If they are guilty then I would hope they are treated with the same respect that we give all Thiefs, embezzlers and con artists.

Throw them in jail. Clean up the airwaves because honestly I understand when people rail against Christianity I know it is these and their type they are pointing too and not the hard working man and woman raising a family in anywhere USA.

]]> By: Rudi http://themoderatevoice.com/16396/televangelists-4-out-of-6-miss-senator-grassleys-investigation-deadline-for-their-records-in-depth/comment-page-1/#comment-107270 Rudi Fri, 07 Dec 2007 13:47:11 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/society/moral-values/16396/televangelists-4-out-of-6-miss-senator-grassleys-investigation-deadline-for-their-records-in-depth/#comment-107270 May Oral Roberts son pray for these people and give them guidance. He can also use the universities plane to fly them out of the country whem indictments are issued. May Oral Roberts son pray for these people and give them guidance. He can also use the universities plane to fly them out of the country whem indictments are issued.

]]> By: domajot http://themoderatevoice.com/16396/televangelists-4-out-of-6-miss-senator-grassleys-investigation-deadline-for-their-records-in-depth/comment-page-1/#comment-107262 domajot Fri, 07 Dec 2007 09:46:29 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/society/moral-values/16396/televangelists-4-out-of-6-miss-senator-grassleys-investigation-deadline-for-their-records-in-depth/#comment-107262 Greed goes wherever man goes, and the church is no exception. For the sake of the congregants, even more than the sake of tax exemptions, honest bookkeeping is a must. Another area for scrutiny should be the field of non-profit, fundraising, orgaizations. Under the level of the big and well known organizations, there is a whole vast netwerk of samller outfits,staying under the radar while many use atrocious practices. Nepotisma nd personal privilege are rampant. I make this claim as per my daughter, who has worked in the field for 15 years. I've seen many tears of rage and frustration when the honest work of many for worthy causes is undercut by the few, but not insignificant in mumber, who have no conscience. Greed goes wherever man goes, and the church is no exception. For the sake of the congregants, even more than the sake of tax exemptions, honest bookkeeping is a must.

Another area for scrutiny should be the field of non-profit, fundraising, orgaizations. Under the level of the big and well known organizations, there is a whole vast netwerk of samller outfits,staying under the radar while many use atrocious practices. Nepotisma nd personal privilege are rampant. I make this claim as per my daughter, who has worked in the field for 15 years. I’ve seen many tears of rage and frustration when the honest work of many for worthy causes is undercut by the few, but not insignificant in mumber, who have no conscience.

]]>