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	<title>Comments on: Scott McClellan&#8217;s Big Boo-Hoo</title>
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		<title>By: kritt</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16219/scott-mcclellans-big-boo-boo/comment-page-1/#comment-105871</link>
		<dc:creator>kritt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 20:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Entropy- it is possible that they didn&#039;t know, but if that&#039;s true you are right that they should have checked.Not to do so was incredibly naive and negligent. I think it was a bungled effort to discredit Wilson- because Cheney was panicked that Wilson&#039;s op-ed could sway public opinion. Its not the first time that this administration did inexplicable things--- invading Iraq with no idea what to do after was dumbfounding as well, lol. 

Libby would not have been indicted if he just admitted that he told reporters about Plame, but didn&#039;t know she was covert. Obviously he was protecting his boss from political embarrassment and deeper questions about whether Cheney had based his rationale for the invasion partially on forged documents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Entropy- it is possible that they didn&#8217;t know, but if that&#8217;s true you are right that they should have checked.Not to do so was incredibly naive and negligent. I think it was a bungled effort to discredit Wilson- because Cheney was panicked that Wilson&#8217;s op-ed could sway public opinion. Its not the first time that this administration did inexplicable things&#8212; invading Iraq with no idea what to do after was dumbfounding as well, lol. </p>
<p>Libby would not have been indicted if he just admitted that he told reporters about Plame, but didn&#8217;t know she was covert. Obviously he was protecting his boss from political embarrassment and deeper questions about whether Cheney had based his rationale for the invasion partially on forged documents.</p>
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		<title>By: domajot</title>
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		<dc:creator>domajot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 19:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Entropy-
&quot;all evidence indicates they did not know she was a 
covert agent.&quot;

In someone in Small town USA had come to the attention of the administration, you can bet they would immediately find out all there is to know about that person, including the favorite brand of totthpaste.  But a CIA agent remains a mystery?
Tht&#039;s a truly amazing conclusion in itself. 

I&#039;m, at the very least, hedging my bets, because of Fitzgerald&#039;s final statement.  He referred to the VP&#039;s office as being central to the dissemination of information so as to discredit the Wildons.  
If the VP acts independently, with people like Armitage out of the loop, that&#039;s a problem of a different sort.  But if people like Armitage truly didn&#039;t know, then they should have found out before blabbing about it.  That would have been the responsible thing to do in a case hitting headlines day after day after day.

I don&#039;t know what happened.  Under the circumstances, I find the suspicions natural and understandable, however.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Entropy-<br />
&#8220;all evidence indicates they did not know she was a<br />
covert agent.&#8221;</p>
<p>In someone in Small town USA had come to the attention of the administration, you can bet they would immediately find out all there is to know about that person, including the favorite brand of totthpaste.  But a CIA agent remains a mystery?<br />
Tht&#8217;s a truly amazing conclusion in itself. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m, at the very least, hedging my bets, because of Fitzgerald&#8217;s final statement.  He referred to the VP&#8217;s office as being central to the dissemination of information so as to discredit the Wildons.<br />
If the VP acts independently, with people like Armitage out of the loop, that&#8217;s a problem of a different sort.  But if people like Armitage truly didn&#8217;t know, then they should have found out before blabbing about it.  That would have been the responsible thing to do in a case hitting headlines day after day after day.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what happened.  Under the circumstances, I find the suspicions natural and understandable, however.</p>
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		<title>By: Entropy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Entropy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 15:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kritt,

First of all, many of those leaks were in response to questions from reporters.  IIRC Rove was asked if Plame worked at the CIA and if she suggested Wilson for the trip.  

And when you think about it, all these administration leakers are more indicative of it NOT being criminal activity.  Do you really believe that if they KNEW leaking her name was a crime that they&#039;d all have done it so cavalierly with no plausible deniability?  No, they would have used proxies at the very least.  I seriously doubt Rove, or any of the others, is dumb enough to engage in such a blatant criminal conspiracy knowing they would be caught.  After all, if outing her was the intent, and they knew she was covert, then once she WAS outed (and the crime was there for all to see), then they would have known there would be an investigation leading right  back to them.  They didn&#039;t do anything to hide their &quot;criminal&quot; activity - why?  

Really, all evidence indicates they did not know she was a covert agent.  What they did was wrong and unethical (and to Armitage&#039;s credit, he&#039;s apologized and taken responsibility many times), but it was not a crime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kritt,</p>
<p>First of all, many of those leaks were in response to questions from reporters.  IIRC Rove was asked if Plame worked at the CIA and if she suggested Wilson for the trip.  </p>
<p>And when you think about it, all these administration leakers are more indicative of it NOT being criminal activity.  Do you really believe that if they KNEW leaking her name was a crime that they&#8217;d all have done it so cavalierly with no plausible deniability?  No, they would have used proxies at the very least.  I seriously doubt Rove, or any of the others, is dumb enough to engage in such a blatant criminal conspiracy knowing they would be caught.  After all, if outing her was the intent, and they knew she was covert, then once she WAS outed (and the crime was there for all to see), then they would have known there would be an investigation leading right  back to them.  They didn&#8217;t do anything to hide their &#8220;criminal&#8221; activity &#8211; why?  </p>
<p>Really, all evidence indicates they did not know she was a covert agent.  What they did was wrong and unethical (and to Armitage&#8217;s credit, he&#8217;s apologized and taken responsibility many times), but it was not a crime.</p>
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		<title>By: Rudi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 04:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL KR Maybe 11.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL KR Maybe 11.</p>
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		<title>By: Rudi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 04:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KR - Without someone involved flipping on this administration, Fitz didn&#039;t have a thing to work with. IMHO Fitz just worked within the body of evidence he had to work with. Ann Coulter and the Goldberg&#039;s joined into a &quot;witch hunt&quot; that Starr used and encouraged. In this case there wasn&#039;t a Deepthroat or John Dean to squeal. My fellow moonbats were looking for a Fitzmas, and Fitz wasn&#039;t that type of hack. 

His Mob prosecution happened when underlings flipped on the Mob bosses, it didn&#039;t happen with Libby, Rove and McClellan. Without a smoking gun or physical evidence somebody needed to squeal.  

In this case no dress or bloody glove...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KR &#8211; Without someone involved flipping on this administration, Fitz didn&#8217;t have a thing to work with. IMHO Fitz just worked within the body of evidence he had to work with. Ann Coulter and the Goldberg&#8217;s joined into a &#8220;witch hunt&#8221; that Starr used and encouraged. In this case there wasn&#8217;t a Deepthroat or John Dean to squeal. My fellow moonbats were looking for a Fitzmas, and Fitz wasn&#8217;t that type of hack. </p>
<p>His Mob prosecution happened when underlings flipped on the Mob bosses, it didn&#8217;t happen with Libby, Rove and McClellan. Without a smoking gun or physical evidence somebody needed to squeal.  </p>
<p>In this case no dress or bloody glove&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: kritt</title>
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		<dc:creator>kritt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 04:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Entropy- Armitage was not the sole leaker- and Novak could never have published his column without confirmation- which came from Karl Rove. Within a period of a few days the news of Plame&#039;s identity was leaked to various reporters by Rove, Libby, Armitage and Ari Fleischer. It seems impossible that that was done by coincidence, especially since Libby admitted he learned about her identity from Dick Cheney, and Fitzgerald admitted that that&#039;s who he thought LIbby was protecting when he perjured himself in front of the Grand Jury.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Entropy- Armitage was not the sole leaker- and Novak could never have published his column without confirmation- which came from Karl Rove. Within a period of a few days the news of Plame&#8217;s identity was leaked to various reporters by Rove, Libby, Armitage and Ari Fleischer. It seems impossible that that was done by coincidence, especially since Libby admitted he learned about her identity from Dick Cheney, and Fitzgerald admitted that that&#8217;s who he thought LIbby was protecting when he perjured himself in front of the Grand Jury.</p>
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		<title>By: kritt</title>
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		<dc:creator>kritt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 04:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rudi- Fitzgerald never got to the bottom of where the leak originated-which , after all, was the point of the investigation in the first place. Even Bush 41 considered the leak of a CIA agent&#039;s identity to be a treasonous act- so why view this in the realm of right vs left and cut a path down the middle? No one is saying that Cheney should have been impeached or put in jail for it, just questioned under oath, once Fitz realized that he was involved up to his eyeball and destroying the Wilsons&#039; reputations with misinformation in order to cover up his role. Do you realize how many people still believe el Rushbo&#039;s version???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rudi- Fitzgerald never got to the bottom of where the leak originated-which , after all, was the point of the investigation in the first place. Even Bush 41 considered the leak of a CIA agent&#8217;s identity to be a treasonous act- so why view this in the realm of right vs left and cut a path down the middle? No one is saying that Cheney should have been impeached or put in jail for it, just questioned under oath, once Fitz realized that he was involved up to his eyeball and destroying the Wilsons&#8217; reputations with misinformation in order to cover up his role. Do you realize how many people still believe el Rushbo&#8217;s version???</p>
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		<title>By: George Sorwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Sorwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 02:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Entropy--

The fact that there was no one indicted for blowing Plame&#039;s cover doesn&#039;t mean the Bush Administration acted in good faith. I think, in fact, just the opposite was true. They were, as you put it, out to &quot;get Wilson&quot;. 

That&#039;s why they were investigated. 

A high-ranking member of the Bush Administration was convicted of obstructing the investigation. Then, before he spent a single day in jail, he was pardoned by the President. 

The whole thing stinks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Entropy&#8211;</p>
<p>The fact that there was no one indicted for blowing Plame&#8217;s cover doesn&#8217;t mean the Bush Administration acted in good faith. I think, in fact, just the opposite was true. They were, as you put it, out to &#8220;get Wilson&#8221;. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s why they were investigated. </p>
<p>A high-ranking member of the Bush Administration was convicted of obstructing the investigation. Then, before he spent a single day in jail, he was pardoned by the President. </p>
<p>The whole thing stinks.</p>
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		<title>By: Entropy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Entropy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 23:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doma,

As I stated, there is zero evidence to indicate anyone knew she was covert - including Armitage.  And the transcripts and audio recordings of Armitage and various reporters referred to her as an &quot;analyst;&quot; and Armitage has referred to internal emails which refer to her as &quot;analyst.&quot;  We don&#039;t have access to the emails, but if Armitage is lying about them, he could be prosecuted for it. As for why he waited, from a story broken at that time:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Armitage, whose admission was first reported by CBS News Thursday, said he cooperated fully with Fitzgerald&#039;s investigation. He was never a target of the investigation and did not hire a lawyer. He agreed to speak to reporters after Fitzgerald released him from a promise of confidentiality.

Armitage said he considered coming forward late last month when a flurry of news reports identified him as the leak. But he said he did not want to be accused of trying to get the story out during the summer&#039;s slow news cycle.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

There&#039;s no doubt the administration was out to get Wilson and discredit him, but there&#039;s simply zero credible evidence beyond allegation that outing Plame was either intentional or a conspiracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doma,</p>
<p>As I stated, there is zero evidence to indicate anyone knew she was covert &#8211; including Armitage.  And the transcripts and audio recordings of Armitage and various reporters referred to her as an &#8220;analyst;&#8221; and Armitage has referred to internal emails which refer to her as &#8220;analyst.&#8221;  We don&#8217;t have access to the emails, but if Armitage is lying about them, he could be prosecuted for it. As for why he waited, from a story broken at that time:</p>
<blockquote><p>Armitage, whose admission was first reported by CBS News Thursday, said he cooperated fully with Fitzgerald&#8217;s investigation. He was never a target of the investigation and did not hire a lawyer. He agreed to speak to reporters after Fitzgerald released him from a promise of confidentiality.</p>
<p>Armitage said he considered coming forward late last month when a flurry of news reports identified him as the leak. But he said he did not want to be accused of trying to get the story out during the summer&#8217;s slow news cycle.</p></blockquote>
<p>There&#8217;s no doubt the administration was out to get Wilson and discredit him, but there&#8217;s simply zero credible evidence beyond allegation that outing Plame was either intentional or a conspiracy.</p>
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		<title>By: Mule Face</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mule Face</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 22:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rudi:

I have no illusions that I&#039;ll shake you from your silly obsession.  I just laugh.

Poor Valerie.  She&#039;ll just have to settle for being rich &amp; famous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rudi:</p>
<p>I have no illusions that I&#8217;ll shake you from your silly obsession.  I just laugh.</p>
<p>Poor Valerie.  She&#8217;ll just have to settle for being rich &#038; famous.</p>
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		<title>By: domajot</title>
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		<dc:creator>domajot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 20:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Entropy-

It all revolves around the concept of intent,  Even if a lieaker were  third or fourth in line, if his intent was to reveal the identity of a covert agent, that&#039;s aginst the law.

IMO, it smells to high heaven that Armitage took so long to come forward.  Doesn&#039;t he read the papers?
Again, though, it all depends on the ability, or lack of ti.  to prove intent.

The wilsons were a target before his op-ed, BTW, at least there was great interest and dismay over them in the VP&#039;s office from the moment Wilson&#039;t trip was arranged.  

Unlwss truth serum were utilized, this will remain beyond the capability of the law to put to final rest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Entropy-</p>
<p>It all revolves around the concept of intent,  Even if a lieaker were  third or fourth in line, if his intent was to reveal the identity of a covert agent, that&#8217;s aginst the law.</p>
<p>IMO, it smells to high heaven that Armitage took so long to come forward.  Doesn&#8217;t he read the papers?<br />
Again, though, it all depends on the ability, or lack of ti.  to prove intent.</p>
<p>The wilsons were a target before his op-ed, BTW, at least there was great interest and dismay over them in the VP&#8217;s office from the moment Wilson&#8217;t trip was arranged.  </p>
<p>Unlwss truth serum were utilized, this will remain beyond the capability of the law to put to final rest.</p>
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		<title>By: Entropy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Entropy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 20:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, why does this idea that Fitzgerald was somehow limited and that he didn&#039;t uncover the basic facts of what happened still persist?  Unless one wants to call Armitage and all the reporters who testified liars, then we know who revealed what to whom and when.  Plame&#039;s name was first leaked to the press about a month BEFORE Wilson&#039;s op-ed that made him a target, for example (by Armitage) and the leak that eventually made it into the press was also Armitage.  As Armitage has repeatedly stated, and the documentary evidence shows, he did not know that she was a covert agent - he thought she was just an analyst...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, why does this idea that Fitzgerald was somehow limited and that he didn&#8217;t uncover the basic facts of what happened still persist?  Unless one wants to call Armitage and all the reporters who testified liars, then we know who revealed what to whom and when.  Plame&#8217;s name was first leaked to the press about a month BEFORE Wilson&#8217;s op-ed that made him a target, for example (by Armitage) and the leak that eventually made it into the press was also Armitage.  As Armitage has repeatedly stated, and the documentary evidence shows, he did not know that she was a covert agent &#8211; he thought she was just an analyst&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: domajot</title>
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		<dc:creator>domajot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 19:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Telling the truth and the whole truth has never been the job of the Press Secretary, any press secretary. His/her job is to &#039;sell&#039; the administratons actions, no matter what they are.

For McClellan to claim being surprised is either downright mendacious or he shouldn&#039;t leave home to play in Washington.

It&#039;s the same thing regarding truth vs. the law.  The two words are not synonyms, and Fitzgerald (an honest man, IMO) could only uncover what was available under the law.  Whether that could ever have also been the same as the truth is highly doubtful, since the law requires proof if intent, as well as action, and intent is a nebulous thing to pin down..  Not being able to uncover more than Fitzgerald did is proff of neither guilt nor innocence.  It&#039;s merely as far as the law could go.

Libby&#039;s pardon, though, besmirched even the role of the law and was an insult to the process, no matter how narrow it&#039;s possibilities for approaching truth were.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Telling the truth and the whole truth has never been the job of the Press Secretary, any press secretary. His/her job is to &#8217;sell&#8217; the administratons actions, no matter what they are.</p>
<p>For McClellan to claim being surprised is either downright mendacious or he shouldn&#8217;t leave home to play in Washington.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the same thing regarding truth vs. the law.  The two words are not synonyms, and Fitzgerald (an honest man, IMO) could only uncover what was available under the law.  Whether that could ever have also been the same as the truth is highly doubtful, since the law requires proof if intent, as well as action, and intent is a nebulous thing to pin down..  Not being able to uncover more than Fitzgerald did is proff of neither guilt nor innocence.  It&#8217;s merely as far as the law could go.</p>
<p>Libby&#8217;s pardon, though, besmirched even the role of the law and was an insult to the process, no matter how narrow it&#8217;s possibilities for approaching truth were.</p>
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		<title>By: Rudi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 19:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MuleFace - If she was a hack, why did her employer ask for an investigation? This investigation wasn&#039;t hatched in a basement janitors closet by John Conyers. And Fitzgerald didn&#039;t give the Left a witch hunt. Nobody bound and gagged Libby or Darth Vader to throw in a lake to see if they were evil warlocks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MuleFace &#8211; If she was a hack, why did her employer ask for an investigation? This investigation wasn&#8217;t hatched in a basement janitors closet by John Conyers. And Fitzgerald didn&#8217;t give the Left a witch hunt. Nobody bound and gagged Libby or Darth Vader to throw in a lake to see if they were evil warlocks.</p>
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		<title>By: Rudi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 17:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KR says:
&lt;blockquote&gt;The WH, along with right wing media allies formed a stonewall to prevent Fitzgerald from getting to the real truth, and put out misinformation about the Wilsons to deflect blame from their own culpability for the breach of our national security.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I need to dig up a couple of good sources, but seems there never was any Fitzmas for the Left and a sense of Fitzgerald as a &quot;traitor&quot; on the Right. The truth is in the middle, Fitz as a hardworking legal technocrat who did a limited investigation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KR says:</p>
<blockquote><p>The WH, along with right wing media allies formed a stonewall to prevent Fitzgerald from getting to the real truth, and put out misinformation about the Wilsons to deflect blame from their own culpability for the breach of our national security.</p></blockquote>
<p>I need to dig up a couple of good sources, but seems there never was any Fitzmas for the Left and a sense of Fitzgerald as a &#8220;traitor&#8221; on the Right. The truth is in the middle, Fitz as a hardworking legal technocrat who did a limited investigation.</p>
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		<title>By: Mule Face</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mule Face</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 17:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s hillarious is that you folks care about the Plame case at all.  It was always a phony story - a CIA employee whoo involved herself in politics and then played victim when called on it.  Small wonder nobody  got nailed for &quot;outing&quot;.  Will you give it up already?  You&#039;re only talking to yourselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s hillarious is that you folks care about the Plame case at all.  It was always a phony story &#8211; a CIA employee whoo involved herself in politics and then played victim when called on it.  Small wonder nobody  got nailed for &#8220;outing&#8221;.  Will you give it up already?  You&#8217;re only talking to yourselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Entropy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Entropy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 17:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Conscience clearing? No, utterly self-serving. Can you say big, fat book contract?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes, he&#039;s following a long Washington insider tradition, sadly.  See also: Tenet, George.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Conscience clearing? No, utterly self-serving. Can you say big, fat book contract?</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, he&#8217;s following a long Washington insider tradition, sadly.  See also: Tenet, George.</p>
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		<title>By: kritt</title>
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		<dc:creator>kritt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 16:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;First, if McClellan was so put out when he learned that he was lied to, why did he wait so long to blow the whistle? In fact, isn’t he just as guilty of obstruction of justice as was Libby?&quot;


Its a continuing pattern with members of this administration- they admit to the malfeasance of others when it is too late to make any real difference and when they can cash in on the &quot;shocking relevations&quot;. Anyone who was really paying attention during the CIA leak should not be shocked by this- as Bush never lived up to his promises to conduct an internal investigation into the leak or get rid of anyone who was found to be associated with the leak.

 The WH, along with right wing media allies formed a stonewall to prevent Fitzgerald from getting to the real truth, and put out misinformation about the Wilsons to deflect blame from their own culpability for the breach of our national security.

If Fitzgerald truly wanted to get beyond the cloud of sand that Libby put in the way of the investigation, he should have interviewed Cheney UNDER OATH. As it is, justice was cheated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;First, if McClellan was so put out when he learned that he was lied to, why did he wait so long to blow the whistle? In fact, isn’t he just as guilty of obstruction of justice as was Libby?&#8221;</p>
<p>Its a continuing pattern with members of this administration- they admit to the malfeasance of others when it is too late to make any real difference and when they can cash in on the &#8220;shocking relevations&#8221;. Anyone who was really paying attention during the CIA leak should not be shocked by this- as Bush never lived up to his promises to conduct an internal investigation into the leak or get rid of anyone who was found to be associated with the leak.</p>
<p> The WH, along with right wing media allies formed a stonewall to prevent Fitzgerald from getting to the real truth, and put out misinformation about the Wilsons to deflect blame from their own culpability for the breach of our national security.</p>
<p>If Fitzgerald truly wanted to get beyond the cloud of sand that Libby put in the way of the investigation, he should have interviewed Cheney UNDER OATH. As it is, justice was cheated.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Stein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Stein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 16:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anybody noticed that the history of the Bush Administration&#039;s downfall can be traced in the arc of attractiveness of its spokespeople? When they were riding high, the media were held at bay by boring dough-faced types like McClellan and Ari Fleischer. Later, when the going got tough, they were replaced by the smoother and better-looking Tony Snow and Perino. What next?

http://ajliebling.blogspot.com/2007/11/scott-mcclellans-script-tease.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anybody noticed that the history of the Bush Administration&#8217;s downfall can be traced in the arc of attractiveness of its spokespeople? When they were riding high, the media were held at bay by boring dough-faced types like McClellan and Ari Fleischer. Later, when the going got tough, they were replaced by the smoother and better-looking Tony Snow and Perino. What next?</p>
<p><a href="http://ajliebling.blogspot.com/2007/11/scott-mcclellans-script-tease.html" rel="nofollow">http://ajliebling.blogspot.com/2007/11/scott-mcclellans-script-tease.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: University Update - White House - Scott McClellan’s Big Boo-Hoo</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16219/scott-mcclellans-big-boo-boo/comment-page-1/#comment-105761</link>
		<dc:creator>University Update - White House - Scott McClellan’s Big Boo-Hoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 15:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mine                           Scott McClellan’s Big Boo-Hoo &#187;  This Summary is from an article posted at The Moderate Voice » Domestic and international news [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Mine                           Scott McClellan’s Big Boo-Hoo &#187;  This Summary is from an article posted at The Moderate Voice » Domestic and international news [...]</p>
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