Comments on: Looking for Grown-Ups to Send to Washington http://themoderatevoice.com/16213/looking-for-grown-ups-to-send-to-washington/ An Internet hub with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, indies, centrists, moderates, and right Wed, 24 Apr 2013 08:33:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: eraser’s blog » Blog Archive » Looking for Grown-Ups to Send to Washington http://themoderatevoice.com/16213/looking-for-grown-ups-to-send-to-washington/comment-page-1/#comment-106047 eraser’s blog » Blog Archive » Looking for Grown-Ups to Send to Washington Sun, 25 Nov 2007 21:52:13 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/mick-huckabee/16213/looking-for-grown-ups-to-send-to-washington/#comment-106047 [...] of those nonpartisan voters who haven’t given up on the political process altogether … themoderatevoice.com/politics/mick-huckabee/16213/looking-for-grown-ups-to-send-to-washington/ The Moderate Voice [...]

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By: The Glittering Eye » Blog Archive » The Expected Answer http://themoderatevoice.com/16213/looking-for-grown-ups-to-send-to-washington/comment-page-1/#comment-106029 The Glittering Eye » Blog Archive » The Expected Answer Sun, 25 Nov 2007 20:19:32 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/mick-huckabee/16213/looking-for-grown-ups-to-send-to-washington/#comment-106029 [...] first got wind of David Broder’s recent column in the Washington Post by reading this post from Mark Daniels at The Moderate Voice. In the column Mr. Broder points approvingly to the research of Democratic [...]

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By: Mark Daniels http://themoderatevoice.com/16213/looking-for-grown-ups-to-send-to-washington/comment-page-1/#comment-105815 Mark Daniels Sat, 24 Nov 2007 04:58:51 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/mick-huckabee/16213/looking-for-grown-ups-to-send-to-washington/#comment-105815 I don’t think that Hart is saying that the three words apply to Clinton or any of the other candidates necessarily. I think that they probably do describe what voters are looking for in their candidates. I also think that Americans have nearly given up on finding those three qualities in their presidential candidates.

Mark

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By: Dave Schuler http://themoderatevoice.com/16213/looking-for-grown-ups-to-send-to-washington/comment-page-1/#comment-105807 Dave Schuler Sat, 24 Nov 2007 01:38:25 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/mick-huckabee/16213/looking-for-grown-ups-to-send-to-washington/#comment-105807 To the three words I think I’d add two: cognitive dissonance. Hillary Clinton currently bids fair to get the Democratic nomination for the presidency. Would anyone seriously use the other three words to describe her?

You might use the words competent, determined, and ambitious. But transparent, authentic, or a unifier? Please.

Whoever the Republican nominee will be I have no doubt that he’ll be of much the same stamp. How can you reconcile the findings with the results? People say one thing to pollsters and do another in the voting booth.

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By: AZChas http://themoderatevoice.com/16213/looking-for-grown-ups-to-send-to-washington/comment-page-1/#comment-105794 AZChas Fri, 23 Nov 2007 22:10:44 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/mick-huckabee/16213/looking-for-grown-ups-to-send-to-washington/#comment-105794 I think Peter Hart’s data is right. There is a certain rabid fringe on both left and right who are so blinded by their passionate allegiance to certain issues that they only care about victory — and defeating their opponents. But most Americans have for a very long time been disgusted with the sort of partisan bickering they see in Washington.

We elect these people because we want them to solve problems and build on America’s greatness. Instead, they seem to spend all their time looking for ways to screw the opposition, such as the childish efforts going on right now during the holiday to keep the Senate technically in session to prevent the President from making any recess appointments.

Now, it’s true that on any given issue, Americans are passionate and rarely unified. We accept the fact that majority rule means winners and losers, but we want to be able to vigorously argue the issues of the day and find ways to come together as Americans after the debates are finished. That’s the part that too many politicians fail to get. Your recent tribute to the friendship between Ronald Reagan and Tip O’Neill shows how an older generation was able to keep the big picture in mind, a picture this younger political generation needs to learn — we are not moral enemies, but political opponents who are also neighbors, and even friends.

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By: domajot http://themoderatevoice.com/16213/looking-for-grown-ups-to-send-to-washington/comment-page-1/#comment-105791 domajot Fri, 23 Nov 2007 21:23:50 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/mick-huckabee/16213/looking-for-grown-ups-to-send-to-washington/#comment-105791 I’m wishing someone would wrtie about the corrosive effect of many blogs.
People seem to converge around blogs that say what they like to hear and never question whether that’s a fair reading on any issue.
The internet communities are, by and large, vertical, when any real progress requites horizontal discussions.

Also, a whole lexicon of partisan shorthand has been created, and the language of ideas is being replaced by shorthnad slogans. BDS, PC and so forth are much more complex than an acronym can express, and using the shorthand cuts off real thought at the pass.
Sometimes it looks as if thinking itsefl were going out of fashion. It’s not a good sign that I can have more open and deeper discussion with older people than with the rising stars on the Internet.

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By: superdestroyer http://themoderatevoice.com/16213/looking-for-grown-ups-to-send-to-washington/comment-page-1/#comment-105746 superdestroyer Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:26:18 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/mick-huckabee/16213/looking-for-grown-ups-to-send-to-washington/#comment-105746 I seriously doubt most people who have an interest in politics really want unity. What they want if for people to agree with them.

What most people want is goodies from the government that are paid for by someone else. Why else do you think that Edwards is campaigning on a massive expansion of the government while claiming it will be paid for by taxes of the rich. The same is the same for Senators Clinton and Obama.

One of the real questions is will there be more or less unity after the collapse of the Republican Party is complete and the U.S. becomes a one party state. When political issues are settled in the Democratic Primary instead of a general election, will people be more unified or will each special interest group have to fight harder for their own interest.

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By: domajot http://themoderatevoice.com/16213/looking-for-grown-ups-to-send-to-washington/comment-page-1/#comment-105731 domajot Fri, 23 Nov 2007 06:20:00 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/mick-huckabee/16213/looking-for-grown-ups-to-send-to-washington/#comment-105731 The voices of those calling for an end to the extreme partisanship do seem to be increasing. To that I agree.
However, I’m not at all sure if, when moving from the abstract to particular issues, a majority of Americans are ready to do the walk whete they are doing the talk. In other words, when they speak of comprosmise, they largely seem to envision the ‘other’ side doing all the compromising, while they, themselves, remain immmovable. This has been particularly evident on the immigration issue, but I think the same is true across a broad range.

Unfortuantely, the political venom spouted constantly on the airwaves and on many blogs has become internalized to an alarming degree. I don’t see much effort, or even interest, in thinking things through. It’s just too easy to fall in with one group or another and to quote barbed punch lines instead of trying to understand what compromises it really would take to resolve a national problem.

While Congress and the administration may set a poor example, I often feel it’s the public who push them to be as partisan as they are. We don’t reward those politicians who are the best at reaching compromise. with re-election. We reward the politicians who defend our particular views the most fiercely.
To a large extent, I think we get the government that we, ourselves, create.

I don’t mean to rain on the parade of those who are trying to bridge the gap. I applaud them!
I will keep my fingers crossed that pramatism will prevail, and that people will start to appreciate how fragile a democracy can be. It can be abused and neglected to such an extent that we lose it. So, I certainly hope with all my heart that this us a treacheroerous phase that will pass.

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By: RedBlueChristian » Blog Archive » “Looking for Grown-Ups to Send to Washington” http://themoderatevoice.com/16213/looking-for-grown-ups-to-send-to-washington/comment-page-1/#comment-105726 RedBlueChristian » Blog Archive » “Looking for Grown-Ups to Send to Washington” Fri, 23 Nov 2007 02:59:48 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/mick-huckabee/16213/looking-for-grown-ups-to-send-to-washington/#comment-105726 [...] Here. [...]

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