Comments on: A Musing On The Next President: Be Very Careful What You Wish For

By: G. Hendricks

G. Hendricks — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 00:36:34 +0000

I’ll support Obama if he gets the nomination, but if Senator Clinton gets it expect me to look towards a third party.

The Republicans, of course, simply seem to want to stay the disastrous Bush/Cheney course (except for Ron Paul, who’s even worse), so I obviously won’t be voting for them.

If the Democrats fail the working class (again), I guess I’ll have to go Green.

Domajot: re: immigration, just give them citizenship. That way, Wal-Mart suddenly loses their initiative to hire them.

Edwards ’08

By: domajot

domajot — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:30:52 +0000

“What America wants’ is a ridiculous question, IMO.
The whole problem is that we have separate, bitter, angry,camps of America all wanting different things and all ready to kill each other to get them.

Considering who could pacify the armed camps to the greatest degree is important for me.
I would be ready to vote for whoever that is, if I could identify who that is.

The most crucial issue for the next president is reintroducing the concept of true compromise. the kind that can accept from the outset that no one societal sector can get everything their way.

Come to think of it, BALANCE is a better word than compromise. Seeking balance automatically recognizes that all the factions need to be considered and involved.

So, which candidate could bring about balance?
I can’t decide.
Giuliani wouldn’t try, IMO.
Hillary would try, but I’m not sure she would be given a fair chance at succeeding..
Obama would try, but I have no real sense of his abilities in the necessary political maneuvering.

Worst of all, I don’t think Ameicans want balance.
They prefer bloody political battles and chaotic conditions (re immigration, for example).

Is there anyone who could turn this around?

By: cosmoetica

cosmoetica — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:12:55 +0000

GH: And yr rt- Edwards wd be the best Prez, for your reasons, but Obama wdn’t be bad.

By: cosmoetica

cosmoetica — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:12:13 +0000

GH: ‘Iâ€™m just waiting to see what America wants. Actual change or same old nonsense.’

Bet on the nonsense.

By: G. Hendricks

G. Hendricks — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 07:43:21 +0000

Well, Hillary despite the fact she seems inevitable is simply a political hack who has all the bad qualities of her husband (i.e. Two-Face) and none of the good ones (i.e. a political touch that only FDR exceeded). Obama actually has passion and clearly has some good ideas to get America moving (although they do seem a bit murky). Edwards is the best candidate for his experience defeating the corporate bullies and also for having the clearest vision to get America moving, uniting her, making her better than she’s ever been before (and he actually is a Democrat, and could rival FDR and LBJ re: social reform), and also because he has that Clintonian political touch minus the bad side.

I’m just waiting to see what America wants. Actual change or same old nonsense. It’s up to the voters of Iowa and New Hampshire to decide. Hopefully, they make the right decision for once.

By: kritt

kritt — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 03:55:19 +0000

If Hillary wins, she’d better hope Congress stays in Democratic hands, or she’ll be using W’s expanded claims of executive privilege to ward off all of those subpoenas, lol. Partisanship will be at an all time high. Don’t think it couldn’t happen- Republicans will be riding the wave of anti-immigration anger in ’08.

By: Entropy

Entropy — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:43:01 +0000

You never know, Hillary could be Guliani’s next “conquest” and we’ll end up with both no matter who gets elected.

By: Entropy

Entropy — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:06:44 +0000

Lol, great post Shaun – I like it all.

By: JSpencer

JSpencer — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:01:29 +0000

Giuliani would be an extension of the national nightmare. Hillary marginally better, but these are hardly times for marginal performance. Obama is looking better all the time to me – I hope Iowa starts seeing it that way too.

By: cosmoetica

cosmoetica — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:34:55 +0000

The fault lies in the mirror, not in the nominees.

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By: Davebo

Davebo — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:14:23 +0000

Its sad that candidates who appear to offer real change like Obama or Ron Paul are being sidelined for these two.

So true. But Obama seems to be gaining on Clinton in the early primary states so perhaps this will change.

By: kritt

kritt — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:51:04 +0000

Good post, Joe, and I’ve got to agree, that we might get more of the same. At the very least, both are establishment candidates. Giuliani has close ties with AG Mukasey and Roger Ailes(20 year friendship) along with Kerik, and H. Clinton was up to her eyeballs in the scandals of the Clinton years (How many more “I don’t recalls” can we expect during hearings?) Both are too tied in with the super-wealthy elites.

Its sad that candidates who appear to offer real change like Obama or Ron Paul are being sidelined for these two. Which begs the question-does someone without the proper connections to wealth and power even have a chance?

By: Chris

Chris — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:42:51 +0000

Giuliani, IMO, is the worst GOP candidate, and Hillary is the worst Dem. It boggles my mind that their nominations seem inevitable. We seem set to elect the President for all the wrong reasons… again…