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	<title>Comments on: Around The Sphere Blogging Roundup Nov. 12, 2007</title>
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		<title>By: kritt</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16064/around-the-sphere-blogging-roundup-nov-12-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-104757</link>
		<dc:creator>kritt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The GOP strategy to regain Congress in 2008 was to act as obstructionists to the Democrats&#039; agenda, then to declare the 110th a &quot;do nothing&quot; Congress. They knew Uncle Karl would be proud.

No wonder so many Republicans (who probably realize that is not why voters elected them) are choosing NOT to run for reelection. Of course, several of those not running are involved in federal or ethics investigations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The GOP strategy to regain Congress in 2008 was to act as obstructionists to the Democrats&#8217; agenda, then to declare the 110th a &#8220;do nothing&#8221; Congress. They knew Uncle Karl would be proud.</p>
<p>No wonder so many Republicans (who probably realize that is not why voters elected them) are choosing NOT to run for reelection. Of course, several of those not running are involved in federal or ethics investigations.</p>
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		<title>By: S.W. Anderson</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16064/around-the-sphere-blogging-roundup-nov-12-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-104702</link>
		<dc:creator>S.W. Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting, how in his Wall Street Journal piece Karl Rove castigates congressional Democrats for not cranking out items on the Bush administration/GOP agenda while failing to mention the solid list of things Democrats have passed. And, if figures Rove doesn&#039;t go into messy details about how Bush has vetoed several of those.

Rove tries to make Dems the do-nothing Congress for not getting out budget bills, but fails to mention Republicans did as badly or worse the past two congresses.

Rove&#039;s predictable attempt to frame the election-year rap on congressional Democrats doesn&#039;t pass muster as constructive criticism. It&#039;s GOP-serving propaganda using cherry-picked information and slant, nothing more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting, how in his Wall Street Journal piece Karl Rove castigates congressional Democrats for not cranking out items on the Bush administration/GOP agenda while failing to mention the solid list of things Democrats have passed. And, if figures Rove doesn&#8217;t go into messy details about how Bush has vetoed several of those.</p>
<p>Rove tries to make Dems the do-nothing Congress for not getting out budget bills, but fails to mention Republicans did as badly or worse the past two congresses.</p>
<p>Rove&#8217;s predictable attempt to frame the election-year rap on congressional Democrats doesn&#8217;t pass muster as constructive criticism. It&#8217;s GOP-serving propaganda using cherry-picked information and slant, nothing more.</p>
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		<title>By: domajot</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16064/around-the-sphere-blogging-roundup-nov-12-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-104667</link>
		<dc:creator>domajot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When  politicians behave like politicians, I&#039;m turned off.  I&#039;m left longing for the straight talker who will tell it like it is, bad news along  with good news, and the impossible along with the possible.
Straight talkers tend to lose, however, and the reason for that is the nature of the public.

The public wants a hero, a weaver of dreams who is also a superman able to beat opponents and enemies alike.

Obama is criticized for not being enough of a politician.  He should attack more, get nasty, control the message more.

Hillary, however, is criticized for being too much of a politician.  She tries to control the message and &#039;sell&#039; herself.

What, then, does the public want?
The right foreign policy to regain our status in the world,  the right approach to handling our social problems like health care or  the best plan for handling global problems like climate change?
The public doesn&#039;t seem to care.  I note the scant number of  posts in the blogoshpere   comparing the various healh care plans in relation to the number of blog posts comparing tactics, personalities and  private lives past and present

Everyone complains about the nasty side of politics, but it seems to me everyone also creates it, by caring more about side issues than core issues and by encouraging and indulging in the search and destroy type of political commentary.

We demand to see the blood sport side of politicas, but we denounce it when we get it.  

Nice going, public.
Just don;t complain when the ussues of substance and lost opportunities hit you in the face after the elections, when it&#039;s too late.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When  politicians behave like politicians, I&#8217;m turned off.  I&#8217;m left longing for the straight talker who will tell it like it is, bad news along  with good news, and the impossible along with the possible.<br />
Straight talkers tend to lose, however, and the reason for that is the nature of the public.</p>
<p>The public wants a hero, a weaver of dreams who is also a superman able to beat opponents and enemies alike.</p>
<p>Obama is criticized for not being enough of a politician.  He should attack more, get nasty, control the message more.</p>
<p>Hillary, however, is criticized for being too much of a politician.  She tries to control the message and &#8217;sell&#8217; herself.</p>
<p>What, then, does the public want?<br />
The right foreign policy to regain our status in the world,  the right approach to handling our social problems like health care or  the best plan for handling global problems like climate change?<br />
The public doesn&#8217;t seem to care.  I note the scant number of  posts in the blogoshpere   comparing the various healh care plans in relation to the number of blog posts comparing tactics, personalities and  private lives past and present</p>
<p>Everyone complains about the nasty side of politics, but it seems to me everyone also creates it, by caring more about side issues than core issues and by encouraging and indulging in the search and destroy type of political commentary.</p>
<p>We demand to see the blood sport side of politicas, but we denounce it when we get it.  </p>
<p>Nice going, public.<br />
Just don;t complain when the ussues of substance and lost opportunities hit you in the face after the elections, when it&#8217;s too late.</p>
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		<title>By: kritt</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16064/around-the-sphere-blogging-roundup-nov-12-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-104663</link>
		<dc:creator>kritt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our leaders should have gotten the message across that it was in the country&#039;s best interest to put partisanship aside temporarily, so that we would have a better chance of facing down the threat and could prepare for the worst. Instead, the GOP presented itself as the party that could best fight the GWOT (the daddy party), while the Democrats relied on painting the opposition as fear-mongerers and war-mongerers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our leaders should have gotten the message across that it was in the country&#8217;s best interest to put partisanship aside temporarily, so that we would have a better chance of facing down the threat and could prepare for the worst. Instead, the GOP presented itself as the party that could best fight the GWOT (the daddy party), while the Democrats relied on painting the opposition as fear-mongerers and war-mongerers.</p>
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		<title>By: kritt</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16064/around-the-sphere-blogging-roundup-nov-12-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-104661</link>
		<dc:creator>kritt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;BINGO. The terrorism issue was bungled and slipped into the realm of politics amid a tug of war over it becoming a wedge issue. What was needed was a cool, well thought out response that included a general mobilization of Americans to do what had to be done as a NATION (not as Republicans and Democrats) and how to get the pieces in place to be able to respond ASAP to a new threat or attack. Rolls of duct tape and waiting for quaint and colorful government terrorism threat levels donâ€™t cut it.&lt;/em&gt;

You nailed it here. Allowing this issue to be politicized was a huge mistake- as was judging whether opposing views enabled our enemies. Your critique of both parties&#039; inability to do more than demagogue is right on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>BINGO. The terrorism issue was bungled and slipped into the realm of politics amid a tug of war over it becoming a wedge issue. What was needed was a cool, well thought out response that included a general mobilization of Americans to do what had to be done as a NATION (not as Republicans and Democrats) and how to get the pieces in place to be able to respond ASAP to a new threat or attack. Rolls of duct tape and waiting for quaint and colorful government terrorism threat levels donâ€™t cut it.</em></p>
<p>You nailed it here. Allowing this issue to be politicized was a huge mistake- as was judging whether opposing views enabled our enemies. Your critique of both parties&#8217; inability to do more than demagogue is right on!</p>
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		<title>By: Libby Spencer</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16064/around-the-sphere-blogging-roundup-nov-12-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-104659</link>
		<dc:creator>Libby Spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Schuler</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16064/around-the-sphere-blogging-roundup-nov-12-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-104658</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Schuler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Her handlers, in their quest to manage the message, handed her salivating antagonists, including Sen. Edwards, the talking point they crave: Mrs. Clinton is inauthentic and calculating.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
The problem isn&#039;t that she appears &#147;inauthentic and calculating&#148;.  Wnen combined with her previous haranguing of a questioner who asked a question she didn&#039;t like, it suggests that her handlers don&#039;t trust her to think and speak on her feet.</description>
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Her handlers, in their quest to manage the message, handed her salivating antagonists, including Sen. Edwards, the talking point they crave: Mrs. Clinton is inauthentic and calculating.
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<p>The problem isn&#8217;t that she appears &#8220;inauthentic and calculating&#8221;.  Wnen combined with her previous haranguing of a questioner who asked a question she didn&#8217;t like, it suggests that her handlers don&#8217;t trust her to think and speak on her feet.</p>
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		<title>By: University Update - Dick Cheney - Around The Sphere Blogging Roundup Nov. 12, 2007</title>
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		<dc:creator>University Update - Dick Cheney - Around The Sphere Blogging Roundup Nov. 12, 2007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Clark                           Around The Sphere Blogging Roundup Nov. 12, 2007 &#187;  This Summary is from an article posted at The Moderate Voice Â» Domestic and international news [...]</description>
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