<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Guest Book Review: Young Stalin</title>
	<atom:link href="http://themoderatevoice.com/16052/guest-book-review-young-stalin/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16052/guest-book-review-young-stalin/</link>
	<description>An Internet hub for moderates, centrists, and independents, with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, and right</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:14:00 -0500</lastBuildDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4</generator>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: domajot</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16052/guest-book-review-young-stalin/comment-page-1/#comment-104688</link>
		<dc:creator>domajot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://themoderatevoice.com/entertainment/16052/guest-book-review-young-stalin/#comment-104688</guid>
		<description>Louis  C - 

I opposed the Iraq war from the first day it was mentioned as a possibility, during the Gulf War.

However, the Iraq war is a WAR.
By your death count, then, WWII was the biggest crime of all,   Should it not have been fought?

In contrast, much of Stalin&#039;s wrath was visited on civilians ON PURPOSE, and many of those civilians were his own people.  If you want to find similarites, there are many, and more legitimate ones, between Stalin ad Saddam Hussein.
We try our GIs when accusations of rape or wanton slaughter surface.
For Stalin&#039;s forces, rape and wanton brutality were so commonplace as to be de rigeur.

Clearly,anyone who doesn&#039;t appreciate the difference has never lived in a war zone and makes these illogical comparisons from a comfortable chair.

Having been in Stalin&#039;s war zone, I&#039;m offended by these facile argumentations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Louis  C &#8211; </p>
<p>I opposed the Iraq war from the first day it was mentioned as a possibility, during the Gulf War.</p>
<p>However, the Iraq war is a WAR.<br />
By your death count, then, WWII was the biggest crime of all,   Should it not have been fought?</p>
<p>In contrast, much of Stalin&#8217;s wrath was visited on civilians ON PURPOSE, and many of those civilians were his own people.  If you want to find similarites, there are many, and more legitimate ones, between Stalin ad Saddam Hussein.<br />
We try our GIs when accusations of rape or wanton slaughter surface.<br />
For Stalin&#8217;s forces, rape and wanton brutality were so commonplace as to be de rigeur.</p>
<p>Clearly,anyone who doesn&#8217;t appreciate the difference has never lived in a war zone and makes these illogical comparisons from a comfortable chair.</p>
<p>Having been in Stalin&#8217;s war zone, I&#8217;m offended by these facile argumentations.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: LouisGodena</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16052/guest-book-review-young-stalin/comment-page-1/#comment-104677</link>
		<dc:creator>LouisGodena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://themoderatevoice.com/entertainment/16052/guest-book-review-young-stalin/#comment-104677</guid>
		<description>domajot objects to the comparison between Bush and Stalin, but there were some similarities (other than that neither cared much for domestic issues); Bush&#039;s actions have led to the &quot;extraordinary deaths&quot; of up to one million Iraqi civilians, and wasn&#039;t it Stalin who was alleged to have said that a single death constituted a &quot;tragedy&quot; while millions were, instead, merely a &quot;statistic&quot;?  The very stuff of history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>domajot objects to the comparison between Bush and Stalin, but there were some similarities (other than that neither cared much for domestic issues); Bush&#8217;s actions have led to the &#8220;extraordinary deaths&#8221; of up to one million Iraqi civilians, and wasn&#8217;t it Stalin who was alleged to have said that a single death constituted a &#8220;tragedy&#8221; while millions were, instead, merely a &#8220;statistic&#8221;?  The very stuff of history.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: domajot</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16052/guest-book-review-young-stalin/comment-page-1/#comment-104676</link>
		<dc:creator>domajot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://themoderatevoice.com/entertainment/16052/guest-book-review-young-stalin/#comment-104676</guid>
		<description>A sidenote about Stalin&#039;s poetry:

I wouldn&#039;t take his love of the muse as a distinct persoanl trait.  Admiration for this type of overblown verse was,IMO, very common in Russia and the territories it controlled.  It&#039;s part of the national character, like vodka and gypsy music.

It&#039;s an example of Stalin being typical , rather than extraordinary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A sidenote about Stalin&#8217;s poetry:</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t take his love of the muse as a distinct persoanl trait.  Admiration for this type of overblown verse was,IMO, very common in Russia and the territories it controlled.  It&#8217;s part of the national character, like vodka and gypsy music.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s an example of Stalin being typical , rather than extraordinary.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: domajot</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16052/guest-book-review-young-stalin/comment-page-1/#comment-104675</link>
		<dc:creator>domajot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://themoderatevoice.com/entertainment/16052/guest-book-review-young-stalin/#comment-104675</guid>
		<description>&quot;the literatry equivalent of Bushâ€™s â€œweapons of mass destructionâ€ which have wreaked so much havoc on the welfare of our American republic, far in excess of anything Stalin himself contemplated.&quot;
--------------------

Anyone making such a comparison between Bush and Stalin can&#039;t have the vaguest notion of what Stalin contemplated and actually did.

Few things bring me to defending Bush, but this ludicrous statement is one of them.
I&#039;m sure the victims of assasination, torture and exile who stood in Stalin&#039;s way would not agree with this view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the literatry equivalent of Bushâ€™s â€œweapons of mass destructionâ€ which have wreaked so much havoc on the welfare of our American republic, far in excess of anything Stalin himself contemplated.&#8221;<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Anyone making such a comparison between Bush and Stalin can&#8217;t have the vaguest notion of what Stalin contemplated and actually did.</p>
<p>Few things bring me to defending Bush, but this ludicrous statement is one of them.<br />
I&#8217;m sure the victims of assasination, torture and exile who stood in Stalin&#8217;s way would not agree with this view.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: LouisGodena</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16052/guest-book-review-young-stalin/comment-page-1/#comment-104668</link>
		<dc:creator>LouisGodena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://themoderatevoice.com/entertainment/16052/guest-book-review-young-stalin/#comment-104668</guid>
		<description>I would use extreme caution in reading Montefiore&#039;s stuff.  Like most intellectuals with an axe to grind, he is frequently his own worst enemy.   He is prone to playing fast and loose with his sources (as was amply documented by Professor Alfred Reiber in a review of *Young Stalin* in the August 17th *TLS*).   This leads not only to his asserting the demonstrably false (Stalin never impregnated a 13 year old girl), but to caricaturing any historical character not to his liking.  Like Robert Conquest and Martin Amis, whose own works have long been discredited by serious historians, Montefiore&#039;s books are propaganda traps for the unwary, the literatry equivalent of Bush&#039;s &quot;weapons of mass destruction&quot; which have wreaked so much havoc on the welfare of our American republic, far in excess of anything Stalin himself contemplated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would use extreme caution in reading Montefiore&#8217;s stuff.  Like most intellectuals with an axe to grind, he is frequently his own worst enemy.   He is prone to playing fast and loose with his sources (as was amply documented by Professor Alfred Reiber in a review of *Young Stalin* in the August 17th *TLS*).   This leads not only to his asserting the demonstrably false (Stalin never impregnated a 13 year old girl), but to caricaturing any historical character not to his liking.  Like Robert Conquest and Martin Amis, whose own works have long been discredited by serious historians, Montefiore&#8217;s books are propaganda traps for the unwary, the literatry equivalent of Bush&#8217;s &#8220;weapons of mass destruction&#8221; which have wreaked so much havoc on the welfare of our American republic, far in excess of anything Stalin himself contemplated.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: MarloweC</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16052/guest-book-review-young-stalin/comment-page-1/#comment-104590</link>
		<dc:creator>MarloweC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://themoderatevoice.com/entertainment/16052/guest-book-review-young-stalin/#comment-104590</guid>
		<description>Montefiore is a puzzling quantity, as Jessica&#039;s review indicates.

For anyone interested in Stalin, Montefiore&#039;s  earlier &quot;Stalin: In the Court of the Red Tsar&quot; is probably the best biography on Stalin currently in existence. 

Montefiore has managed to access Soviet archival material that previous Kreminologists have only dreamed of.  Yet, as JS suggests with his book above, stylistically there are enormous problems...and Montefiore clearly is in need of a decent copyeditor.

Readers would be interested to note Stalin&#039;s fascination with and admiration of Hitler.  For example, there is an account of one of the frequent drinking parties among Stalin&#039;s inner circle in the days after the Night of Long Knives - when Hitler purged the SA and executed Rohm and others - at which Stalin expressed admiration of Hitler&#039;s lightning swift removal of threats to his power.

As you might imagine, everyone in the room nervously agreed with Stalin. Two years later, the only members of that drinking party still alive were Molotov and Stalin.

The Nazi-Soviet Pact shocked the world in 1939. Yet, Montefiore&#039;s book reveals why those in Stalin&#039;s inner circle were far from surprised by Stalin&#039;s agreement to ally himself with a fascist whom superficial commentators believed to be his hated adversary.

Perhaps more than his poetry, Stalin&#039;s doodles on notepaper during Politiburo meetings are highly revealing of his character.  Invariably, he would draw mocking images of his fellow members in the margins...such as Bukharin as a fat pig...with wolves being a constant motif.  His doodles from the 1920s are revealing of his attitudes to Trotsky and others who would eventually fall before him.

Thus, I would agree with JS&#039; conclusions. Montefiore&#039;s work is marked by a stunning amount of research - much of it unparalleled - together with extensive stylistic problems. Odd that.  Still, important work for anyone remotely interested in the Soviet Union and Stalin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Montefiore is a puzzling quantity, as Jessica&#8217;s review indicates.</p>
<p>For anyone interested in Stalin, Montefiore&#8217;s  earlier &#8220;Stalin: In the Court of the Red Tsar&#8221; is probably the best biography on Stalin currently in existence. </p>
<p>Montefiore has managed to access Soviet archival material that previous Kreminologists have only dreamed of.  Yet, as JS suggests with his book above, stylistically there are enormous problems&#8230;and Montefiore clearly is in need of a decent copyeditor.</p>
<p>Readers would be interested to note Stalin&#8217;s fascination with and admiration of Hitler.  For example, there is an account of one of the frequent drinking parties among Stalin&#8217;s inner circle in the days after the Night of Long Knives &#8211; when Hitler purged the SA and executed Rohm and others &#8211; at which Stalin expressed admiration of Hitler&#8217;s lightning swift removal of threats to his power.</p>
<p>As you might imagine, everyone in the room nervously agreed with Stalin. Two years later, the only members of that drinking party still alive were Molotov and Stalin.</p>
<p>The Nazi-Soviet Pact shocked the world in 1939. Yet, Montefiore&#8217;s book reveals why those in Stalin&#8217;s inner circle were far from surprised by Stalin&#8217;s agreement to ally himself with a fascist whom superficial commentators believed to be his hated adversary.</p>
<p>Perhaps more than his poetry, Stalin&#8217;s doodles on notepaper during Politiburo meetings are highly revealing of his character.  Invariably, he would draw mocking images of his fellow members in the margins&#8230;such as Bukharin as a fat pig&#8230;with wolves being a constant motif.  His doodles from the 1920s are revealing of his attitudes to Trotsky and others who would eventually fall before him.</p>
<p>Thus, I would agree with JS&#8217; conclusions. Montefiore&#8217;s work is marked by a stunning amount of research &#8211; much of it unparalleled &#8211; together with extensive stylistic problems. Odd that.  Still, important work for anyone remotely interested in the Soviet Union and Stalin.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: A Book Review: Young Stalin &#171; The Van Der GaliÃ«n Gazette</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16052/guest-book-review-young-stalin/comment-page-1/#comment-104589</link>
		<dc:creator>A Book Review: Young Stalin &#171; The Van Der GaliÃ«n Gazette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 10:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://themoderatevoice.com/entertainment/16052/guest-book-review-young-stalin/#comment-104589</guid>
		<description>[...] about the Armenian genocide, but who has other places to publish her often brilliant writings - wrote a review for TMV of what looks like a fascinating book &#8220;Young Stalin,&#8221; by Simon Sebag Montefiore. Read [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] about the Armenian genocide, but who has other places to publish her often brilliant writings &#8211; wrote a review for TMV of what looks like a fascinating book &#8220;Young Stalin,&#8221; by Simon Sebag Montefiore. Read [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
