Comments on: Spanish King Juan Carlos Tells Hugo Chavez To “Shut Up” (UPDATED) http://themoderatevoice.com/16049/spanish-king-juan-carlos-tells-hugo-chavez-to-shut-up/ An Internet hub with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, indies, centrists, moderates, and right Mon, 28 May 2012 02:47:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: domajot http://themoderatevoice.com/16049/spanish-king-juan-carlos-tells-hugo-chavez-to-shut-up/comment-page-1/#comment-104679 domajot Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:58:02 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/places/europe/16049/spanish-king-juan-carlos-tells-hugo-chavez-to-shut-up/#comment-104679 brian- Whatever the injustices of the past, Chavez is hardly a legitimate spokesman for freedom and democracy. His power grab in Venequela and the firing on protesters discredit him as a spokesman for justice. This was not the proper venue for his bombastic style, which derails proper debate in Spain about how to deal with TODAY'S problems in their country and abroad. Since he shows no signs of cleaning up his own act, Chavez does need to 'shut up' and to let the grown ups in the room settle their issues. brian-

Whatever the injustices of the past, Chavez is hardly a legitimate spokesman for freedom and democracy. His power grab in Venequela and the firing on protesters discredit him as a spokesman for justice.

This was not the proper venue for his bombastic style, which derails proper debate in Spain about how to deal with TODAY’S problems in their country and abroad.

Since he shows no signs of cleaning up his own act, Chavez does need to ‘shut up’ and to let the grown ups in the room settle their issues.

]]> By: brian_amsterdam http://themoderatevoice.com/16049/spanish-king-juan-carlos-tells-hugo-chavez-to-shut-up/comment-page-1/#comment-104660 brian_amsterdam Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:07:09 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/places/europe/16049/spanish-king-juan-carlos-tells-hugo-chavez-to-shut-up/#comment-104660 <a href="http://lanr.blogspot.com/2007/11/associated-press-omits-relevant.html" rel="nofollow">Associated Press omits relevant background in this, </a>Chavez was referring to ex-PM Aznar's support for the 2002 coup <strong>AGAINST </strong>Chavez. Also, based on his framing attempts of the ETA for the Madrid bombings <strong>ALONE</strong>, he could be called a fascist, and rightfully so. Yes, the story of Juan Carlos is a nice <strong>fairy-tale</strong>, but you can also see this: Through Juan Carlos, the fascist army has become legitimatized, they never had to pay for their reign of terror during 1936-1975. One can wonder if Juan Carlos kept the army in check or they hid behind his big chest so as to escape justice? Sure, Iraq has taught us once again the valuable lesson of keeping structures intact (like they were in Germany, Japan), but does that mean that no-one got to pay? Associated Press omits relevant background in this, Chavez was referring to ex-PM Aznar’s support for the 2002 coup AGAINST Chavez. Also, based on his framing attempts of the ETA for the Madrid bombings ALONE, he could be called a fascist, and rightfully so.
Yes, the story of Juan Carlos is a nice fairy-tale, but you can also see this: Through Juan Carlos, the fascist army has become legitimatized, they never had to pay for their reign of terror during 1936-1975. One can wonder if Juan Carlos kept the army in check or they hid behind his big chest so as to escape justice?
Sure, Iraq has taught us once again the valuable lesson of keeping structures intact (like they were in Germany, Japan), but does that mean that no-one got to pay?

]]> By: Lynx http://themoderatevoice.com/16049/spanish-king-juan-carlos-tells-hugo-chavez-to-shut-up/comment-page-1/#comment-104620 Lynx Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:06:55 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/places/europe/16049/spanish-king-juan-carlos-tells-hugo-chavez-to-shut-up/#comment-104620 What barcepundit says. It's high time Spain rid itself of the monarchy, it's the 21st century, but that said, it was a fine moment and even those of us who support a republic are proud of the kind today. Chavez got a tiny little dose of his own medicine, a dose he very very richly deserves, the overgrown thug. What barcepundit says. It’s high time Spain rid itself of the monarchy, it’s the 21st century, but that said, it was a fine moment and even those of us who support a republic are proud of the kind today. Chavez got a tiny little dose of his own medicine, a dose he very very richly deserves, the overgrown thug.

]]> By: The Moderate Voice » Domestic and international news analysis, irreverent comments, original reporting, and popular culture features from across the political spectrum. http://themoderatevoice.com/16049/spanish-king-juan-carlos-tells-hugo-chavez-to-shut-up/comment-page-1/#comment-104583 The Moderate Voice » Domestic and international news analysis, irreverent comments, original reporting, and popular culture features from across the political spectrum. Sun, 11 Nov 2007 07:14:01 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/places/europe/16049/spanish-king-juan-carlos-tells-hugo-chavez-to-shut-up/#comment-104583 [...] See Joe Gandelman’s excellent article on Chavez/King Juan Carlos, with updates here: http://themoderatevoice.com/places/europe/16049/spanish-king-juan-carlos-tells-hugo-chavez-to-shut-u... [...] [...] See Joe Gandelman’s excellent article on Chavez/King Juan Carlos, with updates here: http://themoderatevoice.com/places/europe/16049/spanish-king-juan-carlos-tells-hugo-chavez-to-shut-u... [...]

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