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	<title>Comments on: GOP Prez Debates: On Second Thought, We Just Love Tacos</title>
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		<title>By: superdestroyer</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16038/gop-i-on-2nd-thought-pass-the-tacos/comment-page-1/#comment-104548</link>
		<dc:creator>superdestroyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 17:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kritt, 

The 40% number for Hispanics voting for Bush has long been discredited.  It is based on incorrect assumptions on Hispanics turnout.  The maximum that Bush won is about 33% and that was as a favorite son from Texas whose brother was governor of Florida.   However, over 90% of Hispanic elected politicians are Democrats. That is a much better indication of the overwhelming suppport that Hispanics give Democrats. 

The idea that poor, blue collar Hispanics are natural conservatives is the same kool-aid that Karel Rove was drinking.  Hispanics are poor, pay a very low rate of income taxes, are heavy consumers of government services, and are not business owners.  Most Hispanics in the U.S. are natural Democrats because Hispanics want a big government to get benefits from while they ignore many of the laws.  

The real question is why Asian-Americans are so overwhelmingly Democratic.  They earn like Republicans but vote like Puerto Ricans. 

In the long run, the Republicans are caught in a demographic trap that will make them irrelevant to politics.  For every Hispanics or black vote they get by pandering by lose 10 white voters.  There is not way they can win with those numbers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kritt, </p>
<p>The 40% number for Hispanics voting for Bush has long been discredited.  It is based on incorrect assumptions on Hispanics turnout.  The maximum that Bush won is about 33% and that was as a favorite son from Texas whose brother was governor of Florida.   However, over 90% of Hispanic elected politicians are Democrats. That is a much better indication of the overwhelming suppport that Hispanics give Democrats. </p>
<p>The idea that poor, blue collar Hispanics are natural conservatives is the same kool-aid that Karel Rove was drinking.  Hispanics are poor, pay a very low rate of income taxes, are heavy consumers of government services, and are not business owners.  Most Hispanics in the U.S. are natural Democrats because Hispanics want a big government to get benefits from while they ignore many of the laws.  </p>
<p>The real question is why Asian-Americans are so overwhelmingly Democratic.  They earn like Republicans but vote like Puerto Ricans. </p>
<p>In the long run, the Republicans are caught in a demographic trap that will make them irrelevant to politics.  For every Hispanics or black vote they get by pandering by lose 10 white voters.  There is not way they can win with those numbers.</p>
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		<title>By: kritt</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16038/gop-i-on-2nd-thought-pass-the-tacos/comment-page-1/#comment-104546</link>
		<dc:creator>kritt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 17:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SD- Bush won over 40% of the Hispanic vote in both of his two wins- so pandering to Hispanics certainly paid off. The current strategy of scare tactics on illegal immigration is a loser because it doesn&#039;t offer realistic solutions to the problem. It may appeal to a conservative audience, but it won&#039;t solve anything in the long run.

 Many Republicans in Virginia ran on an anti-illegal immigrant platform- in state races, where they had no authority to enforce the stands they were taking. For that reason, they deserve to go down in defeat.

There are many hardworking socially conservative Hispanics that don&#039;t belong in the same category as LaRaza. When the GOP disses Univision, they are turned off as well.

 But since you&#039;re ready to concede the &#039;08 election to the Democrats. . . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SD- Bush won over 40% of the Hispanic vote in both of his two wins- so pandering to Hispanics certainly paid off. The current strategy of scare tactics on illegal immigration is a loser because it doesn&#8217;t offer realistic solutions to the problem. It may appeal to a conservative audience, but it won&#8217;t solve anything in the long run.</p>
<p> Many Republicans in Virginia ran on an anti-illegal immigrant platform- in state races, where they had no authority to enforce the stands they were taking. For that reason, they deserve to go down in defeat.</p>
<p>There are many hardworking socially conservative Hispanics that don&#8217;t belong in the same category as LaRaza. When the GOP disses Univision, they are turned off as well.</p>
<p> But since you&#8217;re ready to concede the &#8216;08 election to the Democrats. . . . .</p>
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		<title>By: superdestroyer</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16038/gop-i-on-2nd-thought-pass-the-tacos/comment-page-1/#comment-104544</link>
		<dc:creator>superdestroyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kritt,   the Republicans are not going to win in 2008 no matter what they do.  However, the idea that pandering to the La Raza crowd will somehow get middle class whites to donate again and to show up to the polls.  Look at how pandering to Hispanics worked for Senator McCain and President Bush. 

Of course, instead of the idiot of deporting millions, the Democrats want another 20 million and then another 20 million until the politicl/social/economic power of the current middle class  Americans is dilute to the point or irrelevance. 

At least the past, the political leaders stopped the flood gates occasionally and allowed time for assimilation. Today, the political elite benefits more from non-assimilation and the balkanization of American.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kritt,   the Republicans are not going to win in 2008 no matter what they do.  However, the idea that pandering to the La Raza crowd will somehow get middle class whites to donate again and to show up to the polls.  Look at how pandering to Hispanics worked for Senator McCain and President Bush. </p>
<p>Of course, instead of the idiot of deporting millions, the Democrats want another 20 million and then another 20 million until the politicl/social/economic power of the current middle class  Americans is dilute to the point or irrelevance. </p>
<p>At least the past, the political leaders stopped the flood gates occasionally and allowed time for assimilation. Today, the political elite benefits more from non-assimilation and the balkanization of American.</p>
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		<title>By: Rudi</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16038/gop-i-on-2nd-thought-pass-the-tacos/comment-page-1/#comment-104539</link>
		<dc:creator>Rudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I wonder the elite whites of circa 1900 felt about the world of Irish and Italian and Pole and Jew they were leaving to their children and grandchildren.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Those children are now Pat Buchanan and Rudy J, who will take over the current mantle Alan keyes daughter?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I wonder the elite whites of circa 1900 felt about the world of Irish and Italian and Pole and Jew they were leaving to their children and grandchildren.</p></blockquote>
<p>Those children are now Pat Buchanan and Rudy J, who will take over the current mantle Alan keyes daughter?</p>
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		<title>By: kritt</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16038/gop-i-on-2nd-thought-pass-the-tacos/comment-page-1/#comment-104537</link>
		<dc:creator>kritt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sd- When Republicans spout anti-immigrant screeds on issues that they can&#039;t realistically control (like sending back 12-20 million people to Mexico) to an all white conservative audience- they are pandering. All politicians pander.

 If they decide to write off minority audiences they will surely lose in &#039;08. How can they expect to win the key state of Florida that has a heavy Hispanic population if they don&#039;t even show up at a Univision debate?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sd- When Republicans spout anti-immigrant screeds on issues that they can&#8217;t realistically control (like sending back 12-20 million people to Mexico) to an all white conservative audience- they are pandering. All politicians pander.</p>
<p> If they decide to write off minority audiences they will surely lose in &#8216;08. How can they expect to win the key state of Florida that has a heavy Hispanic population if they don&#8217;t even show up at a Univision debate?</p>
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		<title>By: George Sorwell</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16038/gop-i-on-2nd-thought-pass-the-tacos/comment-page-1/#comment-104531</link>
		<dc:creator>George Sorwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 14:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Republicans want to change and begin to appeal to non-Caucasians, they have to start somewhere. Baby steps. 

I wonder the elite whites of circa 1900 felt about the world of Irish and Italian and Pole and Jew they were leaving to their children and grandchildren.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Republicans want to change and begin to appeal to non-Caucasians, they have to start somewhere. Baby steps. </p>
<p>I wonder the elite whites of circa 1900 felt about the world of Irish and Italian and Pole and Jew they were leaving to their children and grandchildren.</p>
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		<title>By: superdestroyer</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/16038/gop-i-on-2nd-thought-pass-the-tacos/comment-page-1/#comment-104529</link>
		<dc:creator>superdestroyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 14:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Republicans appealing to Hispanics voters is a total waste of time.  The only advantage to appearing in front of Hispanics instead of blacks is that the minefield is not nearly as dangerous.  There is much less risk of a major gaffe that causes a candidate to be called a racist in the national media. 

However, the Republicans will never be able to out pander the Democrats for the Hispanic votes.  And in the long run, the massive growth in the Hispanic vote will make the Republicans irrelevant to the political process. 

I wonder howthe elite whites at the Ivy Leagues (those that staff the Democratic candidates campaigns) see the U.S. when the U.S. is majority Hispanics and whites are about 1/3 of the population.  Is it a world that they will want for their children and grand children?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Republicans appealing to Hispanics voters is a total waste of time.  The only advantage to appearing in front of Hispanics instead of blacks is that the minefield is not nearly as dangerous.  There is much less risk of a major gaffe that causes a candidate to be called a racist in the national media. </p>
<p>However, the Republicans will never be able to out pander the Democrats for the Hispanic votes.  And in the long run, the massive growth in the Hispanic vote will make the Republicans irrelevant to the political process. </p>
<p>I wonder howthe elite whites at the Ivy Leagues (those that staff the Democratic candidates campaigns) see the U.S. when the U.S. is majority Hispanics and whites are about 1/3 of the population.  Is it a world that they will want for their children and grand children?</p>
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