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	<title>Comments on: Poll Shows Clinton-Giuliani Presidential Election Tie And Clinton&#8217;s Weakness (UPDATED)</title>
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		<title>By: Repulicans Presidential Election 2008 &#187; Poll Shows Clinton-Giuliani Presidential Election Tie And Clinton &#8230;</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/15983/poll-shows-clinton-giuliani-presidential-election-tie-and-clintons-weakness/comment-page-1/#comment-105250</link>
		<dc:creator>Repulicans Presidential Election 2008 &#187; Poll Shows Clinton-Giuliani Presidential Election Tie And Clinton &#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 01:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Joe Gandelman added an interesting post on Poll Shows Clinton-Giuliani Presidential Election Tie And Clinton &#8230;Here&#8217;s a small excerpt [...]</description>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/15983/poll-shows-clinton-giuliani-presidential-election-tie-and-clintons-weakness/comment-page-1/#comment-104377</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 00:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Pat Robertsonâ€™s endorsement of him is going to kill him among moderates.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No, it won&#039;t.  It only shows how desperate the Religious Right is this time.  

The fact that Robertson endorsed him, who is far from a strong social conservative, shows Robertson&#039;s and the Religious Right&#039;s weakness and loss of influence, not to mention desperation this election, something many of us knew already and something at least some in the media are seizing now, along with the &quot;split&quot; or &quot;schism&quot; (endorsing different candidates, not only weak ones, out of disagreement as well as desperation) and all but openly hoping for a continuation and deepening of.  (The ideal: Extinction of the Religious Right as any influence or special interest group at all.  &quot;Could this be the last gasp of the Religious Right? ...&quot;)

As for Hillary Clinton, let her receive an endorsement from Hugo Chavez.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Pat Robertsonâ€™s endorsement of him is going to kill him among moderates.</p></blockquote>
<p>No, it won&#8217;t.  It only shows how desperate the Religious Right is this time.  </p>
<p>The fact that Robertson endorsed him, who is far from a strong social conservative, shows Robertson&#8217;s and the Religious Right&#8217;s weakness and loss of influence, not to mention desperation this election, something many of us knew already and something at least some in the media are seizing now, along with the &#8220;split&#8221; or &#8220;schism&#8221; (endorsing different candidates, not only weak ones, out of disagreement as well as desperation) and all but openly hoping for a continuation and deepening of.  (The ideal: Extinction of the Religious Right as any influence or special interest group at all.  &#8220;Could this be the last gasp of the Religious Right? &#8230;&#8221;)</p>
<p>As for Hillary Clinton, let her receive an endorsement from Hugo Chavez.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/15983/poll-shows-clinton-giuliani-presidential-election-tie-and-clintons-weakness/comment-page-1/#comment-104374</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 23:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Nobody is more hated among moderate Republicans and libertarian-oriented Independents than Pat Robertson&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Actually, he is written off as largely irrelevent; it&#039;s the Left that hypes and loathes the Religious Right more than anybody else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Nobody is more hated among moderate Republicans and libertarian-oriented Independents than Pat Robertson</p></blockquote>
<p>Actually, he is written off as largely irrelevent; it&#8217;s the Left that hypes and loathes the Religious Right more than anybody else.</p>
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		<title>By: Elrod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elrod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 21:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JoeCHI is right. In fact, this same poll shows Obama and Edwards beating Giuliani by the same one point margin. The reason is not Hillary Clinton&#039;s unpopularity but public perception that Giuliani is not a typical Republican. And that&#039;s why Pat Robertson&#039;s endorsement of him is going to kill him among moderates.  Nobody is more hated among moderate Republicans and libertarian-oriented Independents than Pat Robertson - many of my college friends fit in this camp. The appeal of Giuliani is precisely that he will move the GOP away from the fundie neanderthals. The fact that Giuliani not only received Robertson&#039;s support, but actively sought and praised it gives the lie to Giuliani&#039;s &quot;different&quot; kind of Republican appeal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JoeCHI is right. In fact, this same poll shows Obama and Edwards beating Giuliani by the same one point margin. The reason is not Hillary Clinton&#8217;s unpopularity but public perception that Giuliani is not a typical Republican. And that&#8217;s why Pat Robertson&#8217;s endorsement of him is going to kill him among moderates.  Nobody is more hated among moderate Republicans and libertarian-oriented Independents than Pat Robertson &#8211; many of my college friends fit in this camp. The appeal of Giuliani is precisely that he will move the GOP away from the fundie neanderthals. The fact that Giuliani not only received Robertson&#8217;s support, but actively sought and praised it gives the lie to Giuliani&#8217;s &#8220;different&#8221; kind of Republican appeal.</p>
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		<title>By: University Update - Rudolph Giuliani - Poll Shows Clinton-Giuliani Presidential Election Tie And Clintonâ€™s Weakness (UPDATED)</title>
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		<dc:creator>University Update - Rudolph Giuliani - Poll Shows Clinton-Giuliani Presidential Election Tie And Clintonâ€™s Weakness (UPDATED)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 15:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: JoeCHI</title>
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		<dc:creator>JoeCHI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 15:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;By 50% to 35%, the poll shows, Americans prefer that a Democrat gets elected to succeed Bush next November. In a direct matchup of leading candidates, however, that margin shrinks to 46% for Clinton and 45% for Giuliani.&lt;/strong&gt;

True enough.  However, I have yet to see a poll which shows either Obama or Edwards beating Giuliani by 50% to 35%, either.

Further, RCP shows Clinton beating Giuliani by the wider margins (+4.1%) than either Obama (+1.3%) or Edwards (-0.4%)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>By 50% to 35%, the poll shows, Americans prefer that a Democrat gets elected to succeed Bush next November. In a direct matchup of leading candidates, however, that margin shrinks to 46% for Clinton and 45% for Giuliani.</strong></p>
<p>True enough.  However, I have yet to see a poll which shows either Obama or Edwards beating Giuliani by 50% to 35%, either.</p>
<p>Further, RCP shows Clinton beating Giuliani by the wider margins (+4.1%) than either Obama (+1.3%) or Edwards (-0.4%)</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 14:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: superdestroyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>superdestroyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 14:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>National polling numbers are pointless.  Senator Clinton will easily win in every state that Kerry carried in 2004.  In addition, look at states like Virginia that have turned blue.  If the Republicans have to spend money in Virginia, they have no chance of winning.  How many of the anti-Clinton voters are from Mississippi or Texas that no Democrat is going to win? How many of the anyone but Hillary are from New Hampshire or Iowa and voted for Kerry in 2004?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>National polling numbers are pointless.  Senator Clinton will easily win in every state that Kerry carried in 2004.  In addition, look at states like Virginia that have turned blue.  If the Republicans have to spend money in Virginia, they have no chance of winning.  How many of the anti-Clinton voters are from Mississippi or Texas that no Democrat is going to win? How many of the anyone but Hillary are from New Hampshire or Iowa and voted for Kerry in 2004?</p>
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