Comments on: Catholic Church, Alleged Arson in San Francisco: Media Sometimes Sets Its Own Fires Too http://themoderatevoice.com/15886/catholic-church-alledged-arson-in-san-francisco-media-sometimes-sets-its-own-fires-too/ An Internet hub with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, indies, centrists, moderates, and right Mon, 28 May 2012 05:56:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Dr. Clarissa Pinkola Estés http://themoderatevoice.com/15886/catholic-church-alledged-arson-in-san-francisco-media-sometimes-sets-its-own-fires-too/comment-page-1/#comment-103873 Dr. Clarissa Pinkola Estés Fri, 02 Nov 2007 20:35:10 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/media/blogging/15886/catholic-church-alledged-arson-in-san-francisco-media-sometimes-sets-its-own-fires-too/#comment-103873 Ro, that hit it. I think sometimes people forget that we are a group of 50 small and large nations that are monolithic about a few core things, and quite different in others. Same for cities: the standards of the community have a much larger say-so than a good deal of 'big' media seems to acknowledge. I know some think of media as 'jobs, adverts and money,'. Good enogh, It also has a huge commission to teach. That's where spin evades when it is way off course. No real reaching of fact or ideas. The National Catholic Reporter and U.S. Catholic magazine and some of the RC Dioscean newspapers that are conservative do a good job in giving more of the community facts. In SF, knowing Bishop Swing (Episcopal) , who is now retired, was one of the reasons I wrote this article, for Grace is in many ways a model of a church truly striving to meet the needs of all poor and well off in the community, and more. The subject of community in SF means more than the 'usual' pix and rants. dr.e Ro, that hit it. I think sometimes people forget that we are a group of 50 small and large nations that are monolithic about a few core things, and quite different in others. Same for cities: the standards of the community have a much larger say-so than a good deal of ‘big’ media seems to acknowledge.

I know some think of media as ‘jobs, adverts and money,’. Good enogh, It also has a huge commission to teach. That’s where spin evades when it is way off course. No real reaching of fact or ideas.

The National Catholic Reporter and U.S. Catholic magazine and some of the RC Dioscean newspapers that are conservative do a good job in giving more of the community facts. In SF, knowing Bishop Swing (Episcopal) , who is now retired, was one of the reasons I wrote this article, for Grace is in many ways a model of a church truly striving to meet the needs of all poor and well off in the community, and more. The subject of community in SF means more than the ‘usual’ pix and rants.

dr.e

]]> By: Ro http://themoderatevoice.com/15886/catholic-church-alledged-arson-in-san-francisco-media-sometimes-sets-its-own-fires-too/comment-page-1/#comment-103857 Ro Fri, 02 Nov 2007 18:09:20 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/media/blogging/15886/catholic-church-alledged-arson-in-san-francisco-media-sometimes-sets-its-own-fires-too/#comment-103857 My take on this situation is that the guy is just a nutty pyro who got out of control, should be tried. I truly doubt that he was trying to make a statement about oppression, etc, within the church. Grace Cathedral is wonderfully progressive and inclusive of all types of people, as most churches have to be in order to survive in SF. I feel like people don't really understand SF's relationship to organized religion (it's quite lovely, actually), and end up making these bizarre arguments based on how a certain event might be perceived in a different area of the country, but have no basis in the way things work here. This has become the same never ending "Catholics bad, Catholics good" conversation as we heard after the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence taking communion story a couple of weeks ago. My take on this situation is that the guy is just a nutty pyro who got out of control, should be tried. I truly doubt that he was trying to make a statement about oppression, etc, within the church. Grace Cathedral is wonderfully progressive and inclusive of all types of people, as most churches have to be in order to survive in SF. I feel like people don’t really understand SF’s relationship to organized religion (it’s quite lovely, actually), and end up making these bizarre arguments based on how a certain event might be perceived in a different area of the country, but have no basis in the way things work here. This has become the same never ending “Catholics bad, Catholics good” conversation as we heard after the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence taking communion story a couple of weeks ago.

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