Comments on: “The Fantasy of a Pro-America Europe” http://themoderatevoice.com/15856/the-fantasy-of-a-pro-america-europe/ An Internet hub for moderates, centrists, and independents, with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, and right Mon, 23 Nov 2009 04:14:05 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: domajot http://themoderatevoice.com/15856/the-fantasy-of-a-pro-america-europe/comment-page-1/#comment-103711 domajot Thu, 01 Nov 2007 15:44:43 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/conservatives/15856/the-fantasy-of-a-pro-america-europe/#comment-103711 Entropy- It's not a fantasy. Europe, and much of the world, is afraid of what America might do next. Rightly or wrongly, they don't like being affected by what America does, as they inevitably are, without having a syy in the action. That's just the way things are, not a judgment on who's right and whp's wrong. Entropy-

It’s not a fantasy. Europe, and much of the world, is afraid of what America might do next. Rightly or wrongly, they don’t like being affected by what America does, as they inevitably are, without having a syy in the action.

That’s just the way things are, not a judgment on who’s right and whp’s wrong.

]]> By: Entropy http://themoderatevoice.com/15856/the-fantasy-of-a-pro-america-europe/comment-page-1/#comment-103679 Entropy Thu, 01 Nov 2007 07:24:56 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/conservatives/15856/the-fantasy-of-a-pro-america-europe/#comment-103679 One might equally title this post, "The Fantasy of an Anti-America Europe." One might equally title this post, “The Fantasy of an Anti-America Europe.”

]]> By: S.W. Anderson http://themoderatevoice.com/15856/the-fantasy-of-a-pro-america-europe/comment-page-1/#comment-103671 S.W. Anderson Thu, 01 Nov 2007 04:29:54 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/conservatives/15856/the-fantasy-of-a-pro-america-europe/#comment-103671 Full-fledged harmony between Europe and the U.S. tends to accompany a shared threat or catastrophe. Most of the time, the two are competitors who remain on good terms, fortunately. I suspect few individuals on either side of the Atlantic have not had the disheartening experience of watching a friend take a wrong turn and hurry down a bad path. I hope Europeans who remember the U.S. as a friend in deed during the continent's most needful times will rightly perceive current U.S. policy and policy makers as aberrations. Full-fledged harmony between Europe and the U.S. tends to accompany a shared threat or catastrophe. Most of the time, the two are competitors who remain on good terms, fortunately.

I suspect few individuals on either side of the Atlantic have not had the disheartening experience of watching a friend take a wrong turn and hurry down a bad path. I hope Europeans who remember the U.S. as a friend in deed during the continent’s most needful times will rightly perceive current U.S. policy and policy makers as aberrations.

]]> By: University Update - Fred Thompson - “The Fantasy of a Pro-America Europe” http://themoderatevoice.com/15856/the-fantasy-of-a-pro-america-europe/comment-page-1/#comment-103659 University Update - Fred Thompson - “The Fantasy of a Pro-America Europe” Thu, 01 Nov 2007 00:48:48 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/conservatives/15856/the-fantasy-of-a-pro-america-europe/#comment-103659 [...] Clark “The Fantasy of a Pro-America Europe” » This Summary is from an article posted at The Moderate Voice » Domestic and international news [...] [...] Clark “The Fantasy of a Pro-America Europe” » This Summary is from an article posted at The Moderate Voice » Domestic and international news [...]

]]> By: domajot http://themoderatevoice.com/15856/the-fantasy-of-a-pro-america-europe/comment-page-1/#comment-103658 domajot Thu, 01 Nov 2007 00:40:46 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/conservatives/15856/the-fantasy-of-a-pro-america-europe/#comment-103658 The 'cleft; has been there for a long time, long before the Iraq war, if anyone had cared to notice. The EU was created partially to challenge America's power. Both sides of the Atlantic have their separate myths of supeiority they cling to, and those myths keep the cleft gaping and wide. America has the myth of being able to control global problms by virtue of its military power and ingenuity, and Europe has the myth of cultural and intellectual superiority. Both are partially wrong and partially right. In view of the rivalry, it's laughable to think that Europe would ever want to emulate America. To be like us is the last thing they want. They want to be better than us! Aside from the fringes, most run-of-the-mill conservative Europeans are horrified at conservatism US style, both in economic and social policies. That's what I hear from my conservative friends in Europe (Denmark, France, Spain), at least. The ‘cleft; has been there for a long time, long before the Iraq war, if anyone had cared to notice.
The EU was created partially to challenge America’s power. Both sides of the Atlantic have their separate myths of supeiority they cling to, and those myths keep the cleft gaping and wide.
America has the myth of being able to control global problms by virtue of its military power and ingenuity, and Europe has the myth of cultural and intellectual superiority. Both are partially wrong and partially right.
In view of the rivalry, it’s laughable to think that Europe would ever want to emulate America. To be like us is the last thing they want. They want to be better than us!

Aside from the fringes, most run-of-the-mill conservative Europeans are horrified at conservatism US style, both in economic and social policies.
That’s what I hear from my conservative friends in Europe (Denmark, France, Spain), at least.

]]> By: jdledell http://themoderatevoice.com/15856/the-fantasy-of-a-pro-america-europe/comment-page-1/#comment-103652 jdledell Wed, 31 Oct 2007 23:08:37 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/conservatives/15856/the-fantasy-of-a-pro-america-europe/#comment-103652 Right on the button. It constantly amazes me the arrogance of America - that the whole world rotates on our axis. I lived most of 25 years in a variety of other countries (Israel, South Korea, India, Japan, Taiwan, Europe etc). Believe it or not, the people in those countries actually believe their issues are more important than ours. The utter gall of those people. LOL. Right on the button. It constantly amazes me the arrogance of America – that the whole world rotates on our axis. I lived most of 25 years in a variety of other countries (Israel, South Korea, India, Japan, Taiwan, Europe etc). Believe it or not, the people in those countries actually believe their issues are more important than ours. The utter gall of those people. LOL.

]]> By: Jeb Koogler http://themoderatevoice.com/15856/the-fantasy-of-a-pro-america-europe/comment-page-1/#comment-103650 Jeb Koogler Wed, 31 Oct 2007 22:38:52 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/conservatives/15856/the-fantasy-of-a-pro-america-europe/#comment-103650 Great post. Very interesting. Great post. Very interesting.

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