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	<title>Comments on: Is Tonight&#8217;s MSNBC Democratic Debate High Noon For Barack Obama?  (UPDATE 2)</title>
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		<title>By: Clinton&#8217;s Foes Pillory Hillary At Democratic Debate &#187; The Moderate Voice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clinton&#8217;s Foes Pillory Hillary At Democratic Debate &#187; The Moderate Voice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 07:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] are really working in terms of a huge increase in poll numbers), Senator Barack Obama seemed to turn aside pundit&#8217;s pre-debate advice and confirm that he does INDEED believe in a less personal, less demonizing form of politics (which [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] are really working in terms of a huge increase in poll numbers), Senator Barack Obama seemed to turn aside pundit&#8217;s pre-debate advice and confirm that he does INDEED believe in a less personal, less demonizing form of politics (which [...]</p>
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		<title>By: krit</title>
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		<dc:creator>krit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 23:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama is currently getting support from both parties, but if HIllary were not the frontrunner, he would be coming under attack by the right wing, instead of her.  Right now every right wing talk show host and media commentator is engaged in a stop Hillary campaign. It takes the heat off of Obama, and allows him to perpetuate a nonpartisan image.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama is currently getting support from both parties, but if HIllary were not the frontrunner, he would be coming under attack by the right wing, instead of her.  Right now every right wing talk show host and media commentator is engaged in a stop Hillary campaign. It takes the heat off of Obama, and allows him to perpetuate a nonpartisan image.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 22:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The Hillary Clinton Express proceeding right on-schedule &lt;/blockquote&gt;

It&#039;s the Hillary Clinton Health Care Express, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hillaryclinton.com/feature/healthcareplan/summary.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Version Two&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The Hillary Clinton Express proceeding right on-schedule </p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s the Hillary Clinton Health Care Express, <a href="http://www.hillaryclinton.com/feature/healthcareplan/summary.aspx" rel="nofollow">Version Two</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 22:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama has been the &lt;a href=&quot;http://pewresearch.org/pubs/624/invisible-primary&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;media&#039;s darling&lt;/a&gt;, but that&#039;s not enough; Hillary Clinton is expected to win.  To me what will be of interest is who she selects to be her VP.  Probably not Gore or Obama, maybe Dodd (ugh), or a lightweight like Patty Murray or Maria Cantwell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama has been the <a href="http://pewresearch.org/pubs/624/invisible-primary" rel="nofollow">media&#8217;s darling</a>, but that&#8217;s not enough; Hillary Clinton is expected to win.  To me what will be of interest is who she selects to be her VP.  Probably not Gore or Obama, maybe Dodd (ugh), or a lightweight like Patty Murray or Maria Cantwell.</p>
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		<title>By: domajot</title>
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		<dc:creator>domajot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 21:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is excruciatingly difficult.

I don&#039;t  like the Bush-Clinton perperual cycle, but should Hillary be denied a chance because of her last name?  It isn&#039;t as if she would be  stepping out of the kitchen to go straight to the CIC&#039;s office; she&#039;s been busy in the Senate.

Obama, as a symbol of a fresh start, is very appealing.   I wonder, though, how a relative newcomer would handle the most complex and difficult foreign policy challenges since WWII.  On the other hand, his &#039;new start&#039; image may be an actual  help in turning the page internationally

I feel really sorry for the next president if it turns out to be a Democrat. The consequences of the previous years will be his/her responsibllity and it&#039;s a situation so difficult that there is no way to avoid some negative events.

Who would best carry that heavy load?
I&#039;m not sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is excruciatingly difficult.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t  like the Bush-Clinton perperual cycle, but should Hillary be denied a chance because of her last name?  It isn&#8217;t as if she would be  stepping out of the kitchen to go straight to the CIC&#8217;s office; she&#8217;s been busy in the Senate.</p>
<p>Obama, as a symbol of a fresh start, is very appealing.   I wonder, though, how a relative newcomer would handle the most complex and difficult foreign policy challenges since WWII.  On the other hand, his &#8216;new start&#8217; image may be an actual  help in turning the page internationally</p>
<p>I feel really sorry for the next president if it turns out to be a Democrat. The consequences of the previous years will be his/her responsibllity and it&#8217;s a situation so difficult that there is no way to avoid some negative events.</p>
<p>Who would best carry that heavy load?<br />
I&#8217;m not sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 20:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How does getting support from non dems help get him to November?   If he doesn&#039;t get the nomination he&#039;s out.    I can&#039;t seriously believe Clinton is going to get the nomination.   I swear, ANOTHER immediate family member of a former president is just more than I can bear.   If she gets it I just have to assume the system isn&#039;t just broken, its willfully so.    I seriously pray for the sake of national unity that Obama pulls a rabbit out of the hat on this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How does getting support from non dems help get him to November?   If he doesn&#8217;t get the nomination he&#8217;s out.    I can&#8217;t seriously believe Clinton is going to get the nomination.   I swear, ANOTHER immediate family member of a former president is just more than I can bear.   If she gets it I just have to assume the system isn&#8217;t just broken, its willfully so.    I seriously pray for the sake of national unity that Obama pulls a rabbit out of the hat on this one.</p>
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		<title>By: stunewsome</title>
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		<dc:creator>stunewsome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 20:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Obama would work better at getting both parties on board, unlike Carter. Either way, that&#039;s what we need. No more partisanship. That&#039;s what the grassroots are calling for and that where a successful contender against the Clinton machine needs the support. If Obama wants to make it to November, he needs to start thinking outside the party. If he can garner support from independents and Unity08, and maybe the Ron Paul anti-war set,  he&#039;s in business. It aint over Yogi!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Obama would work better at getting both parties on board, unlike Carter. Either way, that&#8217;s what we need. No more partisanship. That&#8217;s what the grassroots are calling for and that where a successful contender against the Clinton machine needs the support. If Obama wants to make it to November, he needs to start thinking outside the party. If he can garner support from independents and Unity08, and maybe the Ron Paul anti-war set,  he&#8217;s in business. It aint over Yogi!</p>
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		<title>By: Is Tonightâ€™s MSNBC Democratic Debate High Noon For Barack Obama? &#124; Political news - democrats republicans socialists greens liberals conservatives</title>
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		<dc:creator>Is Tonightâ€™s MSNBC Democratic Debate High Noon For Barack Obama? &#124; Political news - democrats republicans socialists greens liberals conservatives</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 16:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: krit</title>
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		<dc:creator>krit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m wondering if its possible for anyone to win in &#039;08 without becoming part of the moneyed establishment of Washington.  Obama is a test case for trying it--most of his war chest comes from small donors--but will he later become what the Clintons and Bushes are today? There&#039;s so much connectivity between Pennsylvania Avenue and Wall Street and corporate interests and the media, that principled &quot;outsiders&quot; are forced to become unprincipled insiders or leave politics. 

Jimmy Carter came to Washington as a highly principled man of  integrity who wasn&#039;t beholden to special interests. His presidency failed largely because he couldn&#039;t even get members of his own party on board with his agenda, much less the country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m wondering if its possible for anyone to win in &#8217;08 without becoming part of the moneyed establishment of Washington.  Obama is a test case for trying it&#8211;most of his war chest comes from small donors&#8211;but will he later become what the Clintons and Bushes are today? There&#8217;s so much connectivity between Pennsylvania Avenue and Wall Street and corporate interests and the media, that principled &#8220;outsiders&#8221; are forced to become unprincipled insiders or leave politics. </p>
<p>Jimmy Carter came to Washington as a highly principled man of  integrity who wasn&#8217;t beholden to special interests. His presidency failed largely because he couldn&#8217;t even get members of his own party on board with his agenda, much less the country.</p>
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