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	<title>Comments on: Voices In the S-CHIP Veto Debate</title>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/15461/voices-in-the-s-chip-veto-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-100664</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 20:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SD,
I haven&#039;t read much about Spitzer and this situation.  Until I have the chance/inclination to read up on it, I&#039;ll defer to your more informed viewpoint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SD,<br />
I haven&#8217;t read much about Spitzer and this situation.  Until I have the chance/inclination to read up on it, I&#8217;ll defer to your more informed viewpoint.</p>
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		<title>By: superdestroyer</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/15461/voices-in-the-s-chip-veto-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-100663</link>
		<dc:creator>superdestroyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 20:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, 

Let&#039;s look at the Spitzer decision in light of moveon.org talking points. 

1.  A poll this week showed that 60% of New Yorkers are against the move.  Do you think that will even be consider by the liberal elite on New York 

2.  Spitzer&#039;s decision is in violationof the Real ID act.  do you think that anyone on the left will claim that the Spitzer administration is operating outside the law and is corrupt. 

3.  New York State employees are stating that they wil not follow spitzer&#039;s edits but will follow the existing law.  Do you think those middle class government employees will be held up as heros y the left for complying with the law or will they will be called racist y the left for believing that the rules mean something. .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s look at the Spitzer decision in light of moveon.org talking points. </p>
<p>1.  A poll this week showed that 60% of New Yorkers are against the move.  Do you think that will even be consider by the liberal elite on New York </p>
<p>2.  Spitzer&#8217;s decision is in violationof the Real ID act.  do you think that anyone on the left will claim that the Spitzer administration is operating outside the law and is corrupt. </p>
<p>3.  New York State employees are stating that they wil not follow spitzer&#8217;s edits but will follow the existing law.  Do you think those middle class government employees will be held up as heros y the left for complying with the law or will they will be called racist y the left for believing that the rules mean something. .</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/15461/voices-in-the-s-chip-veto-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-100661</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 19:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;New York Governor Eliot Spitzerâ€™s plan to give ilegal aliens drivers licenses&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The Moderate [sic; Liberal] Voice community largely supports the plan, I suspect.

(Note that with S-CHIP, Spitzer wants to benefit children of households up to 400% of the poverty level, which would mean nearly every child in the state.)


&lt;blockquote&gt;Actually, they want to win elections, which will increasingly require latino support.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The recipients of the drivers&#039; licenses will vote Democratic if and when they can, in gratitude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>New York Governor Eliot Spitzerâ€™s plan to give ilegal aliens drivers licenses</p></blockquote>
<p>The Moderate [sic; Liberal] Voice community largely supports the plan, I suspect.</p>
<p>(Note that with S-CHIP, Spitzer wants to benefit children of households up to 400% of the poverty level, which would mean nearly every child in the state.)</p>
<blockquote><p>Actually, they want to win elections, which will increasingly require latino support.</p></blockquote>
<p>The recipients of the drivers&#8217; licenses will vote Democratic if and when they can, in gratitude.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 19:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;while I have yet to yet any posting on New York Governor Eliot Spitzerâ€™s plan to give ilegal aliens drivers licenses.&quot;

When Spitzer&#039;s deal gets torpedoed by a presidential veto I&#039;m sure there will be a post about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;while I have yet to yet any posting on New York Governor Eliot Spitzerâ€™s plan to give ilegal aliens drivers licenses.&#8221;</p>
<p>When Spitzer&#8217;s deal gets torpedoed by a presidential veto I&#8217;m sure there will be a post about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/15461/voices-in-the-s-chip-veto-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-100659</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 19:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The Democratic Party wants direct control of the 1/8 of the economy that is health care[...]&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Actually the U.S. population wants the government in charge of healthcare.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pollingreport.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Check the polls&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;blockquote&gt;[...]and [the Democratic Party] wants millions more illegal aliens because they create the need for thousands of more government employees and billions more dollars in government spending.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Actually, they want to win elections, which will increasingly require latino support.  Besides, is that any worse than Bush &amp; big business wanting them for cheap labor to increase profits?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The Democratic Party wants direct control of the 1/8 of the economy that is health care[...]</p></blockquote>
<p>Actually the U.S. population wants the government in charge of healthcare.  <a href="http://www.pollingreport.com" rel="nofollow">Check the polls</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>[...]and [the Democratic Party] wants millions more illegal aliens because they create the need for thousands of more government employees and billions more dollars in government spending.</p></blockquote>
<p>Actually, they want to win elections, which will increasingly require latino support.  Besides, is that any worse than Bush &#038; big business wanting them for cheap labor to increase profits?</p>
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		<title>By: superdestroyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>superdestroyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 18:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it odd that themoderatevoice has had four post that were very in favor of creating a new entitlement for the middle class while I have yet to yet any posting on New York Governor Eliot Spitzer&#039;s plan to give ilegal aliens drivers licenses. 

It is just another indiciation that the Democratic Party and the left are not even going to wait until the 2008 election to start a massive expansion of the government. 

The Democratic Party wants direct control of the 1/8 of the economy that is health care and it wants millions more illegal aliens because they create the need for thousands of more government employees and billions more dollars in government spending.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it odd that themoderatevoice has had four post that were very in favor of creating a new entitlement for the middle class while I have yet to yet any posting on New York Governor Eliot Spitzer&#8217;s plan to give ilegal aliens drivers licenses. </p>
<p>It is just another indiciation that the Democratic Party and the left are not even going to wait until the 2008 election to start a massive expansion of the government. </p>
<p>The Democratic Party wants direct control of the 1/8 of the economy that is health care and it wants millions more illegal aliens because they create the need for thousands of more government employees and billions more dollars in government spending.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 18:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Cheapshot&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Actually I wasn&#039;t trying to pick on him; this was related to what he wrote yesterday about taxes.

&lt;blockquote&gt;picking someoneâ€™s pocket&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It&#039;s legal and can be done openly if it&#039;s in the tax code.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Cheapshot</p></blockquote>
<p>Actually I wasn&#8217;t trying to pick on him; this was related to what he wrote yesterday about taxes.</p>
<blockquote><p>picking someoneâ€™s pocket</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s legal and can be done openly if it&#8217;s in the tax code.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/15461/voices-in-the-s-chip-veto-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-100643</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 18:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DLS,
I&#039;m just out of the frame picking someone&#039;s pocket.  Steal from the rich and give to the poor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DLS,<br />
I&#8217;m just out of the frame picking someone&#8217;s pocket.  Steal from the rich and give to the poor.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/15461/voices-in-the-s-chip-veto-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-100642</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 18:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheapshot, but that is the best sign out there.   And the NYT piece hits the nail on the head.  Its a relatively small amount of the budget that&#039;s doing a lot of good in a very direct manner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheapshot, but that is the best sign out there.   And the NYT piece hits the nail on the head.  Its a relatively small amount of the budget that&#8217;s doing a lot of good in a very direct manner.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 17:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, is that you in the left, in the photograph?  Pretty straightforward message.  (The two at the top are chumpy.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, is that you in the left, in the photograph?  Pretty straightforward message.  (The two at the top are chumpy.)</p>
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