Comments on: Center of Attention http://themoderatevoice.com/15291/center-of-attention-132/ An Internet hub for moderates, centrists, and independents, with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, and right Mon, 23 Nov 2009 03:05:15 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: DLS http://themoderatevoice.com/15291/center-of-attention-132/comment-page-1/#comment-99526 DLS Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:26:57 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/center-of-attention/15291/center-of-attention-132/#comment-99526 Moore would have done better if he had left the nitwit "fat country" stuff out of his writeup about bikes and just concentrated on the main issue, which is safety on the road. While bicyclists are sometimes to blame for troubles on the road (riding two abreast where there's not enough width, for example) or on bike paths (racer-child velo-poseurs racing through slower bicycle traffic; different path users refusing to stay in their correct lanes), the risks of the road (and on the bike path) are real, I believe due to a decline in civility and an increase in childishness (and lack of self-control), and in many places driving, as well as riding on the roads, can be quite risky (with inattentive, impatient, ill-tempered motorists). It's the decline in civility over recent years and the change to risks on the road that merit revisitation of bike commuting, something that itself is far from being new -- it's something many of us have done for decades. Moore would have done better if he had left the nitwit “fat country” stuff out of his writeup about bikes and just concentrated on the main issue, which is safety on the road. While bicyclists are sometimes to blame for troubles on the road (riding two abreast where there’s not enough width, for example) or on bike paths (racer-child velo-poseurs racing through slower bicycle traffic; different path users refusing to stay in their correct lanes), the risks of the road (and on the bike path) are real, I believe due to a decline in civility and an increase in childishness (and lack of self-control), and in many places driving, as well as riding on the roads, can be quite risky (with inattentive, impatient, ill-tempered motorists).

It’s the decline in civility over recent years and the change to risks on the road that merit revisitation of bike commuting, something that itself is far from being new — it’s something many of us have done for decades.

]]> By: Pete Abel http://themoderatevoice.com/15291/center-of-attention-132/comment-page-1/#comment-99523 Pete Abel Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:13:42 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/center-of-attention/15291/center-of-attention-132/#comment-99523 Ro - Thanks for the link. I clearly should have looked a little harder and little deeper into that story. Ro – Thanks for the link. I clearly should have looked a little harder and little deeper into that story.

]]> By: domajot http://themoderatevoice.com/15291/center-of-attention-132/comment-page-1/#comment-99522 domajot Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:11:03 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/center-of-attention/15291/center-of-attention-132/#comment-99522 "for all the hoopla about voters being disgusted with divisive politics, perhaps voters are (after all) not only the source of said politics, but its boosters and sustainers." Exactly what I've been thinking. In fact, I was trying to make that argument on another thread but failed in stating it as succintly and clearly. “for all the hoopla about voters being disgusted with divisive politics, perhaps voters are (after all) not only the source of said politics, but its boosters and sustainers.”

Exactly what I’ve been thinking. In fact, I was trying to make that argument on another thread but failed in stating it as succintly and clearly.

]]> By: Ro http://themoderatevoice.com/15291/center-of-attention-132/comment-page-1/#comment-99496 Ro Tue, 25 Sep 2007 20:01:54 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/center-of-attention/15291/center-of-attention-132/#comment-99496 Ms. Stillwell actually got the idea for her "hate mail" article from an extreme leftist, Mark Morford, who writes for the same paper (SF Chron) and published his hate mail earlier that week. In the spirit of your comment that "had I found this morning a comparable post from the Left featuring the hate of the Right, I would have linked to both", I'd like to give you the link. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2007/09/05/notes090507.DTL&hw=morford+hate+mail&sn=001&sc=1000 Ms. Stillwell actually got the idea for her “hate mail” article from an extreme leftist, Mark Morford, who writes for the same paper (SF Chron) and published his hate mail earlier that week. In the spirit of your comment that “had I found this morning a comparable post from the Left featuring the hate of the Right, I would have linked to both”, I’d like to give you the link.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2007/09/05/notes090507.DTL&hw=morford+hate+mail&sn=001&sc=1000

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