Comments on: The salami tactics of Hugo Chavez http://themoderatevoice.com/15187/the-salami-tactics-of-hugo-chavez/ An Internet hub for moderates, centrists, and independents, with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, and right Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:51:43 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Argghhh! The Home Of Two Of Jonah's Military Guys.. http://themoderatevoice.com/15187/the-salami-tactics-of-hugo-chavez/comment-page-1/#comment-99341 Argghhh! The Home Of Two Of Jonah's Military Guys.. Mon, 24 Sep 2007 09:22:09 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/places/americas-n-s/latin-america/15187/the-salami-tactics-of-hugo-chavez/#comment-99341 <strong>Iran and Syria: Brinkmanship in the Middle East...</strong> Iran has lately become an even hotter topic than Iraq and, once again, Afghanistan has fallen off the radar completely. An upcoming push by the United States and France to enforce even greater sanctions against Iran is heating up the...... Iran and Syria: Brinkmanship in the Middle East…

Iran has lately become an even hotter topic than Iraq and, once again, Afghanistan has fallen off the radar completely. An upcoming push by the United States and France to enforce even greater sanctions against Iran is heating up the……

]]> By: random particle http://themoderatevoice.com/15187/the-salami-tactics-of-hugo-chavez/comment-page-1/#comment-99207 random particle Sat, 22 Sep 2007 15:50:19 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/places/americas-n-s/latin-america/15187/the-salami-tactics-of-hugo-chavez/#comment-99207 You are wrong about a lot of things, but you are not foolish enough to advocate military intervention in Venezuela. Why? Because you know that, this time around, a U.S. military attack on Venezuela would FAIL MISERABLY. This time around, the U.S. cannot overthrow a democracy and install a fascist military dictatorship as it has done many times in the past (Guatemala, Dominican Republic, Chile, to cite just a few). Your guns and bombs are impotent this time. You say that some will accuse you of exaggeration and mis-representation. Count me in those some. The idiot who said Chavez is the same as a right-wing dictator knows NOTHING (perhaps voluntarily) about history. Right-wing dictators of the past murdered thousands and thousands of people. Chavez has done nothing at all like that, although you would love to accuse him of that. What is going on in Venezuela, and you can´t stop it, is REAL democracy, unlike the fraudulent Bush administration. Whether you like it or not, Hugo Chavez is the FUTURE. Socialism is the FUTURE. Stand on the sidelines and whine all you want. There is nothing you can do to stop us. Random Particle Nicaragua You are wrong about a lot of things, but you are not foolish enough to advocate military intervention in Venezuela. Why? Because you know that, this time around, a U.S. military attack on Venezuela would FAIL MISERABLY. This time around, the U.S. cannot overthrow a democracy and install a fascist military dictatorship as it has done many times in the past (Guatemala, Dominican Republic, Chile, to cite just a few). Your guns and bombs are impotent this time.
You say that some will accuse you of exaggeration and mis-representation. Count me in those some.
The idiot who said Chavez is the same as a right-wing dictator knows NOTHING (perhaps voluntarily) about history. Right-wing dictators of the past murdered thousands and thousands of people. Chavez has done nothing at all like that, although you would love to accuse him of that.
What is going on in Venezuela, and you can´t stop it, is REAL democracy, unlike the fraudulent Bush administration. Whether you like it or not, Hugo Chavez is the FUTURE. Socialism is the FUTURE. Stand on the sidelines and whine all you want. There is nothing you can do to stop us.

Random Particle
Nicaragua

]]> By: Salami Tactics : [H] Hegemonic Pundit http://themoderatevoice.com/15187/the-salami-tactics-of-hugo-chavez/comment-page-1/#comment-98872 Salami Tactics : [H] Hegemonic Pundit Wed, 19 Sep 2007 21:53:40 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/places/americas-n-s/latin-america/15187/the-salami-tactics-of-hugo-chavez/#comment-98872 [...] Gee, someone else has Hugo Chavez’s number too. It’s not just me. Michael Stickings makes a poignant observation about the regime of Hugo Chavez and his modus operandi - as well as the ultimate outcome of his machinations: My point here is not to make a case for military action against Venezuela, but it is clear that Hugo Chavez is using salami tactics in his drive to establish so-called “Bolivarean” socialism — that is, his own national-socialist autocratic rule — in that country. I wrote about this last week: “Sometimes revolution can be achieved without sudden, dramatic bloodletting.” There are a number of different prongs to Chavez’s continuing revolution, a number of slices. They may be examined individually, but they are best understood as variations of the same, as components of a single overarching plan. The nationalization of industry, the seizure of private property, repression of dissent and opposition, control of the media, one-party rule, rule by decree, and, soon, the removal of constitutional impediments to the permanent and perpetual rule of the leader himself. ~themoderatevoice.com [...] [...] Gee, someone else has Hugo Chavez’s number too. It’s not just me. Michael Stickings makes a poignant observation about the regime of Hugo Chavez and his modus operandi – as well as the ultimate outcome of his machinations: My point here is not to make a case for military action against Venezuela, but it is clear that Hugo Chavez is using salami tactics in his drive to establish so-called “Bolivarean” socialism — that is, his own national-socialist autocratic rule — in that country. I wrote about this last week: “Sometimes revolution can be achieved without sudden, dramatic bloodletting.” There are a number of different prongs to Chavez’s continuing revolution, a number of slices. They may be examined individually, but they are best understood as variations of the same, as components of a single overarching plan. The nationalization of industry, the seizure of private property, repression of dissent and opposition, control of the media, one-party rule, rule by decree, and, soon, the removal of constitutional impediments to the permanent and perpetual rule of the leader himself. ~themoderatevoice.com [...]

]]> By: Not So Fast » Frightfully well carried out http://themoderatevoice.com/15187/the-salami-tactics-of-hugo-chavez/comment-page-1/#comment-98829 Not So Fast » Frightfully well carried out Wed, 19 Sep 2007 17:03:58 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/places/americas-n-s/latin-america/15187/the-salami-tactics-of-hugo-chavez/#comment-98829 [...] I’m just linking this because it has a Yes, Prime Minister reference. Which, perhaps to my detriment, has formed my [...] [...] I’m just linking this because it has a Yes, Prime Minister reference. Which, perhaps to my detriment, has formed my [...]

]]> By: geekWithA.45 http://themoderatevoice.com/15187/the-salami-tactics-of-hugo-chavez/comment-page-1/#comment-98805 geekWithA.45 Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:14:21 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/places/americas-n-s/latin-america/15187/the-salami-tactics-of-hugo-chavez/#comment-98805 Actually, y'all need to take a look at Hungarian history. It was Matyas Rokosi, Stalin's Hungarian protege' who boasted that he would "cut off his enemies one by one, likes slices of salami". The process Hugo Chavez is using is modeled on, and follows the same means, methods and objective that chronicled Hungary's subversion following WWII. Actually, y’all need to take a look at Hungarian history.

It was Matyas Rokosi, Stalin’s Hungarian protege’ who boasted that he would “cut off his enemies one by one, likes slices of salami”.

The process Hugo Chavez is using is modeled on, and follows the same means, methods and objective that chronicled Hungary’s subversion following WWII.

]]> By: DLS http://themoderatevoice.com/15187/the-salami-tactics-of-hugo-chavez/comment-page-1/#comment-98735 DLS Tue, 18 Sep 2007 21:52:44 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/places/americas-n-s/latin-america/15187/the-salami-tactics-of-hugo-chavez/#comment-98735 <blockquote>He’s a left wing authoritarian, taking control the same way the right wing guys do.</blockquote> In a sense, yes, taking control the same way right-wing authoritarian Latin American dictators do. He's put a truly leftist mark on what he's done to date, though, in aping Castro and going populist rather than imitating, say, Pinochet.

He’s a left wing authoritarian, taking control the same way the right wing guys do.

In a sense, yes, taking control the same way right-wing authoritarian Latin American dictators do. He’s put a truly leftist mark on what he’s done to date, though, in aping Castro and going populist rather than imitating, say, Pinochet.

]]> By: Salami? Wish it were BALONEY « My Mind In Letters http://themoderatevoice.com/15187/the-salami-tactics-of-hugo-chavez/comment-page-1/#comment-98706 Salami? Wish it were BALONEY « My Mind In Letters Tue, 18 Sep 2007 18:55:33 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/places/americas-n-s/latin-america/15187/the-salami-tactics-of-hugo-chavez/#comment-98706 [...] The salami tactics of Hugo Chavez » The Moderate Voice [...] [...] The salami tactics of Hugo Chavez » The Moderate Voice [...]

]]> By: Sam http://themoderatevoice.com/15187/the-salami-tactics-of-hugo-chavez/comment-page-1/#comment-98697 Sam Tue, 18 Sep 2007 17:57:55 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/places/americas-n-s/latin-america/15187/the-salami-tactics-of-hugo-chavez/#comment-98697 He's a left wing authoritarian, taking control the same way the right wing guys do. Make a big, scary and poorly defined enemy, convince the people only your way will keep them safe. New face, same old tricks. He's a bad, bad man. He’s a left wing authoritarian, taking control the same way the right wing guys do. Make a big, scary and poorly defined enemy, convince the people only your way will keep them safe. New face, same old tricks. He’s a bad, bad man.

]]> By: Hugo Plays Hide The Salami at Conservative Times--Republican GOP news source. http://themoderatevoice.com/15187/the-salami-tactics-of-hugo-chavez/comment-page-1/#comment-98683 Hugo Plays Hide The Salami at Conservative Times--Republican GOP news source. Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:21:36 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/places/americas-n-s/latin-america/15187/the-salami-tactics-of-hugo-chavez/#comment-98683 [...] Stickings provides an interesting comparison between the Soviet efforts to co-opt Europe and the tactics of Venezuela’s Hugo Chavez. Using a [...] [...] Stickings provides an interesting comparison between the Soviet efforts to co-opt Europe and the tactics of Venezuela’s Hugo Chavez. Using a [...]

]]> By: Captain's Quarters http://themoderatevoice.com/15187/the-salami-tactics-of-hugo-chavez/comment-page-1/#comment-98680 Captain's Quarters Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:16:44 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/places/americas-n-s/latin-america/15187/the-salami-tactics-of-hugo-chavez/#comment-98680 <strong>Hugo Plays Hide The Salami</strong> Michael Stickings provides an interesting comparison between the Soviet efforts to co-opt Europe and the tactics of Venezuela’s Hugo Chavez. Using a model described in a British television series, Stickings calls Chavez’ slow push towards tyranny â... Hugo Plays Hide The Salami

Michael Stickings provides an interesting comparison between the Soviet efforts to co-opt Europe and the tactics of Venezuela’s Hugo Chavez. Using a model described in a British television series, Stickings calls Chavez’ slow push towards tyranny â…

]]> By: Heading Right » Blog Archive » Venezuelan Salami http://themoderatevoice.com/15187/the-salami-tactics-of-hugo-chavez/comment-page-1/#comment-98679 Heading Right » Blog Archive » Venezuelan Salami Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:12:49 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/places/americas-n-s/latin-america/15187/the-salami-tactics-of-hugo-chavez/#comment-98679 [...] Stickings provides an interesting comparison between the Soviet efforts to co-opt Europe and the tactics of Venezuela’s Hugo Chavez. Using [...] [...] Stickings provides an interesting comparison between the Soviet efforts to co-opt Europe and the tactics of Venezuela’s Hugo Chavez. Using [...]

]]> By: Interguru http://themoderatevoice.com/15187/the-salami-tactics-of-hugo-chavez/comment-page-1/#comment-98676 Interguru Tue, 18 Sep 2007 14:51:43 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/places/americas-n-s/latin-america/15187/the-salami-tactics-of-hugo-chavez/#comment-98676 Hugo Chavez is a sideshow. He has no idea on how to run an economy that does not have huge amounts of oil money coming in. Actually he has no idea on how to run a an oil economy either. Even with all his money, the economy is not doing well, Production is declining because he chased all the oil workers with expertise out. Hugo Chavez is a sideshow.

He has no idea on how to run an economy that does not have huge amounts of oil money coming in. Actually he has no idea on how to run a an oil economy either. Even with all his money, the economy is not doing well, Production is declining because he chased all the oil workers with expertise out.

]]> By: The salami tactics of Hugo Chavez · Articles http://themoderatevoice.com/15187/the-salami-tactics-of-hugo-chavez/comment-page-1/#comment-98671 The salami tactics of Hugo Chavez · Articles Tue, 18 Sep 2007 14:29:03 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/places/americas-n-s/latin-america/15187/the-salami-tactics-of-hugo-chavez/#comment-98671 [...] My point here is not to make a case for military action against Venezuela, but it is clear that Hugo Chavez is using salami tactics in his drive to establish so-called “Bolivarean” socialism — that is, his own national-socialist autocratic rule — in that country. I wrote about this last week: “Sometimes revolution can be achieved without sudden, dramatic bloodletting.” There are a number of different prongs to Chavez’s continuing revolution, a number of slices. They may be examined individually, but they are best understood as variations of the same, as components of a single overarching plan. The nationalization of industry, the seizure of private property, repression of dissent and opposition, control of the media, one-party rule, rule by decree, and, soon, the removal of constitutional impediments to the permanent and perpetual rule of the leader himself. (more…) [...] [...] My point here is not to make a case for military action against Venezuela, but it is clear that Hugo Chavez is using salami tactics in his drive to establish so-called “Bolivarean” socialism — that is, his own national-socialist autocratic rule — in that country. I wrote about this last week: “Sometimes revolution can be achieved without sudden, dramatic bloodletting.” There are a number of different prongs to Chavez’s continuing revolution, a number of slices. They may be examined individually, but they are best understood as variations of the same, as components of a single overarching plan. The nationalization of industry, the seizure of private property, repression of dissent and opposition, control of the media, one-party rule, rule by decree, and, soon, the removal of constitutional impediments to the permanent and perpetual rule of the leader himself. (more…) [...]

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