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	<title>Comments on: Signs of Change In Saudi Arabia</title>
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		<title>By: domajot</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/15109/signs-of-change-in-saudi-arabia/comment-page-1/#comment-98355</link>
		<dc:creator>domajot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 01:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This story really has nothing to do with the Bush administration

Since we spend so much time dealing wih ME issues, however, it is important to know how societies there funcion and what new developments there are in these societies.

The story of this trial is almost laughaable, in Western terms.  But it shows a crack opening in the wall of the old ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This story really has nothing to do with the Bush administration</p>
<p>Since we spend so much time dealing wih ME issues, however, it is important to know how societies there funcion and what new developments there are in these societies.</p>
<p>The story of this trial is almost laughaable, in Western terms.  But it shows a crack opening in the wall of the old ways.</p>
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		<title>By: jdledell</title>
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		<dc:creator>jdledell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 23:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On John Burgess&#039; site, Crossroads Arabia, I came across the following quote from him, presumably born of his Foreign Service experience. It describes his objectives in dealing with countries, like Saudia Arabia:

&quot;By an odd quirk of human nature, people tend not to listen when theyâ€™re busy ducking rocks being thrown at them. Yelling is counter-productive when discourse works better. But if we have no idea of anotherâ€™s values and how he came to those values, the yelling never works&quot;.

The Bush Administration should pay attention to these words of wisdom in dealing with the Mideast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On John Burgess&#8217; site, Crossroads Arabia, I came across the following quote from him, presumably born of his Foreign Service experience. It describes his objectives in dealing with countries, like Saudia Arabia:</p>
<p>&#8220;By an odd quirk of human nature, people tend not to listen when theyâ€™re busy ducking rocks being thrown at them. Yelling is counter-productive when discourse works better. But if we have no idea of anotherâ€™s values and how he came to those values, the yelling never works&#8221;.</p>
<p>The Bush Administration should pay attention to these words of wisdom in dealing with the Mideast.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/15109/signs-of-change-in-saudi-arabia/comment-page-1/#comment-98325</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 21:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m too culturally disgusted with Saudi Arabia to give them credit for what appears in the article to be nothing more than bowing to economic forces and not actual social change.    Their treatment of women, religous police and secret courts, slavery of migrant workers, all with the tacit and sometimes outright approval of the gov&#039;t jsut turns my stomach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m too culturally disgusted with Saudi Arabia to give them credit for what appears in the article to be nothing more than bowing to economic forces and not actual social change.    Their treatment of women, religous police and secret courts, slavery of migrant workers, all with the tacit and sometimes outright approval of the gov&#8217;t jsut turns my stomach.</p>
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		<title>By: domajot</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/15109/signs-of-change-in-saudi-arabia/comment-page-1/#comment-98316</link>
		<dc:creator>domajot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 20:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>some signs of change are a whole lot better than no signs, and they&#039;re welcome news to boot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>some signs of change are a whole lot better than no signs, and they&#8217;re welcome news to boot.</p>
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		<title>By: LL</title>
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		<dc:creator>LL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 20:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t bet on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t bet on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/15109/signs-of-change-in-saudi-arabia/comment-page-1/#comment-98309</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 19:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the moderates are taking over in Iran.  Whatever.  I&#039;ll believe it when I see it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the moderates are taking over in Iran.  Whatever.  I&#8217;ll believe it when I see it.</p>
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