Institutionalized Misandry
After recently seeing people give roaring approval to this cartoon, I’ve decided there’s some folks I just can’t take reading anymore. Yes, just like some feminists, some men’s rights activists are obsessive and over the top and some ought to learn to behave better. But the complete dismissal of the male experience of sexual assault, which is far more common than almost anyone wants to admit, is beyond annoying. It’s despicable. And the fact that men are never welcome at the table to discuss their lived experiences is just plain tiresome.
Patronizingly sexist White Knight males, man-hating feminists positing the all-encompassing “Patriarchy Theory of Oppression,” and condescending “suck it up whiners!” conservatives aren’t just tiresome, they’re espousing an evil philosophy, and I’m just not enough of a masochist to keep reading purveyors of such–left-wing, right-wing, libertarian, or otherwise. I have sons whom I love too much to act as an enabler for people who marginalize and demean men for being men, and who sniff at abuse of, and even just plain killing, males who refuse to live up to mandated social norms.
Off to A Voice For Men to try to scrub my brain from the man-hating set. Yes, some of those writers are a little off themselves but at least none of them will laugh hysterically at sexual mutilation.
(This item cross-posted to Dean’s World.)
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I haven’t had this happen to me…yet. I can not imagine my reaction of someone told me that I had to leave the bookstore because I was in the children’s section.
I’ve been eyed suspiciously more than once for hanging around the playground while my son was playing–when he wasn’t nearby enough to establish my right to be there.
Dean, who is roaringly approving of this comic? I have never actually heard of the strip, so I don’t know the context, what happened to the blond man, but I think you might be missing the point of the comic. Saying that being sexually assaulted is just like how there are too many Homer Simpson-esque male dumbdumbs on TV is super offensive. I think that’s part of the point.
I’d like to point out yet again how your anger is deeply misplaced when you blame this and everything on feminists. The feminist groups I associate with fight everyday against the abuses of Catholic priests who rape young boys, fight against the attrocities of rape that occur within the prison system (and the seeming acceptedness of using these attrocities as a punch-line or as an accepted part of the punishment of criminals), fight against the culture which allows situations like the current Sandusky trial. Rape is not funny, and I don’t know who you see triumphantly cavorting it, but fighting against rape culture is pretty much in the top three priorities of feminists.
It’s on Twitter.
I would like to point out that you apparently did not read what I wrote, wherein I pointed to, amongst other things, “condescending ‘suck it up whiners!’ conservatives.”
I don’t know what to make of the anti-Catholic remark, considering that Catholic priests are no more likely than members of other clergy (or other groups in regular contact with children) to be child molesters. I’m pleased, on the other hand, if you’re involved in some group that takes prison rape seriously, if it’s a group which acknowledges the fact this is a problem that affects overwhelmingly more men than women. And if it’s a group that does not marginalize the reality of female abusers, sexual and otherwise. Or if it looks at some of the other things mentioned here and here seriously. If so, good for you, I welcome you and your friends as fellow human rights activists. Please let me know about these groups.
“considering that Catholic priests are no more likely than members of other clergy”
Anti-Catholic comment? Do you, who is so bothered by feminists ignoring the problems of the rape of men and boys, mean to imply that the Catholic church does not have a huge, huge problem with their leadership raping kids, and a system set-up for the express purpose to allow the continuing of these rapes, the coverup of these rapes, and policies that allow that these rapes go unpunished? Priests may or may not be any more likely to be child molesters than, say, Boy Scout leaders, but the Boy Scouts to not have a policy that specifically works toward covering up and continuing the molestation. They do not have internation power to affect policy that allows these rapes to go unpunished. They do not simply take a suspected child rapist and move him to another town to go and rape again. They do not then promote to power those who have repeatedly done this. They do not systematically protect these child molesters from legal ramifications. They do have special rules that mean that they don’t have to testify or notify the authorities if a non-abuser finds out that a collegue is an abuser.
Sorry Dean, I’m actually really positive on the Catholic church in many ways, but their handling of the widespread rape of children by their employees, entrusted with the spiritual and moral development of their communities, is definitely not one of them. Many Catholics feel the same, and it is fairly shocking to me that you aren’t one of them.
“if it’s a group which acknowledges the fact this is a problem that affects overwhelmingly more men than women”
Women prisoners are roughly equally likely to be abused as their male counterparts, and the great disparity in the numbers is mostly due to the fact that there are just simply many more men in prison than women. w The expectation by society that going to prison means being raped, and the tacit or explicit agreement that this is somehow just punishment for whatever crime the prisoner was convicted of, is something that most feminists take very seriously. Because, again, the rape culture is one of the top topics of activism and discussion among feminists.
Also, I’m not going to watch your MRA youtube clips, Dean. The last one you suggested made me want to throw things.
“I would like to point out that you apparently did not read what I wrote, wherein I pointed to, amongst other things”
Um, I read it, Dean. It’s just that White Knight men and conservatives talking about whining men are not actually in the same category as feminists. Both are, in fact, mindsets that feminists fight against. Even the basically-all-of-us who adhere to the idea of patriarchy and how it’s a bad thing. Among the ideas of that concept are how traditional chivalry and strict adherence toward long-proscribed ideals of masculinity (men can’t stand up against injustice without being whiny like silly ladies is one of those ideals) is bad for both women and men.
Your bashing of the Catholic Church is at least ten years out of date.
The articles I linked speaks to your other issues. I’m done here.
Its not just bashing. The Catholic Church did in fact set up a protection racket for its pedophile priests. That fact there haven’t been scores of arrests as a result is a mystery to me. NAMBLA is no doubt jealous.
Roro’s statement about this outrage are mild, and quite accurate, in my opinion.