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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/15029/hillarys-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-97971</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 21:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Of all the candidates (Dem and Rep) Hillary has come the closest to having that experience.&quot;

Very much disagree with this.  Richardson fits this bill.   The closest thing to be the president is to be a state governor.   Also, Richardson has international experience, worked as Secretary of Energy, and 14 years in Congress.  I find it funny when folks compare Clinton and Obama, who for all intents are equal experience wise, when there is Richardson who blows them both out of the water.  

All in all I do not agree that Hillary&#039;s first lady time counts.   As mentioned earlier she was not an elected official and therefore did not carry the burden and responsibility of making things happen.   She was essentially a very active staffer and that is not the same thing.  

Also, her service so far as Senator has been so so.   Nothing great, nothing horrendous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Of all the candidates (Dem and Rep) Hillary has come the closest to having that experience.&#8221;</p>
<p>Very much disagree with this.  Richardson fits this bill.   The closest thing to be the president is to be a state governor.   Also, Richardson has international experience, worked as Secretary of Energy, and 14 years in Congress.  I find it funny when folks compare Clinton and Obama, who for all intents are equal experience wise, when there is Richardson who blows them both out of the water.  </p>
<p>All in all I do not agree that Hillary&#8217;s first lady time counts.   As mentioned earlier she was not an elected official and therefore did not carry the burden and responsibility of making things happen.   She was essentially a very active staffer and that is not the same thing.  </p>
<p>Also, her service so far as Senator has been so so.   Nothing great, nothing horrendous.</p>
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		<title>By: StockBoySF</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/15029/hillarys-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-97892</link>
		<dc:creator>StockBoySF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 20:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hands down Hillary has more experience.  Obama&#039;s comments on what &lt;strong&gt;he&lt;/strong&gt; views as her lack of experience may have won him some points in certain circles- but these comments did nothing for me.  (By the way, I&#039;m a HUGE Obama supporter and I realize that I&#039;m not going to agree with everything he says.)  One person above made the comment on this post that Hillary was not an elected official and did not have the experience of representing people she was actually accountable to.  While I agree with the statement itself, Hillary still needed to get things done.  In order to do so she had to woo over people who were elected.  She couldn&#039;t use the tactic, &quot;My constituents need this.... &quot; and negotiate from there.  Instead Hillary had to show the congressmen how they would benefit from passing certain legislation.  In other words I think she was starting negotiations from a disadvantaged standpoint and she had to make up for that.  Now that she&#039;s a Senator we&#039;ve all seen how she&#039;s reached across the aisle to work with Republicans on legislation.  

I would like to add that no one has experience at being President until they&#039;re actually in the office.   Of all the candidates (Dem and Rep) Hillary has come the closest to having that experience.  As First Lady she personally watched Bill&#039;s battles, giving him advice on how to proceed.  Then she watched the result and was able to see what worked and what didn&#039;t.  Sure Bill made the final decision, but he always considered her opinion.  Even if you feel that Hillary is inexperienced you still must remember that Hillary is smart and deft, which is probably most of the battle when it comes to getting your way in politics.

If I were voting for experience alone, I would vote for Hillary.  But I support Obama because I feel that he is less polarizing than Hillary and will tend to domestic issues (i.e. crime, education, etc. especially when it comes to disadvantaged Americans) that affect those Americans who aren&#039;t part of Bush&#039;s demographic (rich and self-serving) supporters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hands down Hillary has more experience.  Obama&#8217;s comments on what <strong>he</strong> views as her lack of experience may have won him some points in certain circles- but these comments did nothing for me.  (By the way, I&#8217;m a HUGE Obama supporter and I realize that I&#8217;m not going to agree with everything he says.)  One person above made the comment on this post that Hillary was not an elected official and did not have the experience of representing people she was actually accountable to.  While I agree with the statement itself, Hillary still needed to get things done.  In order to do so she had to woo over people who were elected.  She couldn&#8217;t use the tactic, &#8220;My constituents need this&#8230;. &#8221; and negotiate from there.  Instead Hillary had to show the congressmen how they would benefit from passing certain legislation.  In other words I think she was starting negotiations from a disadvantaged standpoint and she had to make up for that.  Now that she&#8217;s a Senator we&#8217;ve all seen how she&#8217;s reached across the aisle to work with Republicans on legislation.  </p>
<p>I would like to add that no one has experience at being President until they&#8217;re actually in the office.   Of all the candidates (Dem and Rep) Hillary has come the closest to having that experience.  As First Lady she personally watched Bill&#8217;s battles, giving him advice on how to proceed.  Then she watched the result and was able to see what worked and what didn&#8217;t.  Sure Bill made the final decision, but he always considered her opinion.  Even if you feel that Hillary is inexperienced you still must remember that Hillary is smart and deft, which is probably most of the battle when it comes to getting your way in politics.</p>
<p>If I were voting for experience alone, I would vote for Hillary.  But I support Obama because I feel that he is less polarizing than Hillary and will tend to domestic issues (i.e. crime, education, etc. especially when it comes to disadvantaged Americans) that affect those Americans who aren&#8217;t part of Bush&#8217;s demographic (rich and self-serving) supporters.</p>
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		<title>By: flyerhawk</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/15029/hillarys-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-97886</link>
		<dc:creator>flyerhawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 19:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael,

While I generally find the importance of experience to be wildly overrated I do think you are giving Hillary much too much credit..

&lt;blockquote&gt;. Pushing through legislation as fast as possible often doesnâ€™t work. Youâ€™ve got to compromise, youâ€™ve got to listen to the other side and youâ€™ve got to give critics something in return for their support. This project alone gave Clinton more experience than Obama has collected in his entire political life (same goes for Edwards).&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So she learned how to be a Congresswoman while she was a first lady?  How exactly do Obama or Edwards not have this experience?  Obama has already written and sponsored several bills that have been passed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,</p>
<p>While I generally find the importance of experience to be wildly overrated I do think you are giving Hillary much too much credit..</p>
<blockquote><p>. Pushing through legislation as fast as possible often doesnâ€™t work. Youâ€™ve got to compromise, youâ€™ve got to listen to the other side and youâ€™ve got to give critics something in return for their support. This project alone gave Clinton more experience than Obama has collected in his entire political life (same goes for Edwards).</p></blockquote>
<p>So she learned how to be a Congresswoman while she was a first lady?  How exactly do Obama or Edwards not have this experience?  Obama has already written and sponsored several bills that have been passed.</p>
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		<title>By: domajot</title>
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		<dc:creator>domajot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 19:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not only has Hillary been elected TWICE, she was elected  by large margins in upstate, very Republican areas.

That is at the crux of why Republican politicians hate ther.  They fear her ablitily to attract votes from the ranks of Republicans.

I have my own issues with Hillary, but they are most definitely not issues of lack of experience or competence.   Her work of the Armed Services Committe has been lauded by members of both parties familiar with her performance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only has Hillary been elected TWICE, she was elected  by large margins in upstate, very Republican areas.</p>
<p>That is at the crux of why Republican politicians hate ther.  They fear her ablitily to attract votes from the ranks of Republicans.</p>
<p>I have my own issues with Hillary, but they are most definitely not issues of lack of experience or competence.   Her work of the Armed Services Committe has been lauded by members of both parties familiar with her performance.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Satterfield</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/15029/hillarys-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-97877</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Satterfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 17:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, given that LL believes that Obama is counting on his race to somehow immunize him from hard questions I think we can guess at least part of why he considers him an SOB.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, given that LL believes that Obama is counting on his race to somehow immunize him from hard questions I think we can guess at least part of why he considers him an SOB.</p>
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		<title>By: George Sorwell</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/15029/hillarys-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-97876</link>
		<dc:creator>George Sorwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 17:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hillary has won election to statewide office twice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hillary has won election to statewide office twice.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynx</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/15029/hillarys-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-97874</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 16:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;hate this SOB obama as well as his ignorant supporters.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ah, the smell of unity and moderation is in the air!

In any case it is true that Hillary has more experience than Obama, though he has spent more time as an elected official than she has. He&#039;d likely not be running if he weren&#039;t black and she&#039;d likely not be running if her last name weren&#039;t &quot;Clinton&quot;. I still find him to be by far the more principled of the two candidates, and the only one of the two that can hope to heal some of the polarization that has ripped this country apart.

Well, except for LL, I guess. Care to explain why Obama is an SOB? Quite something that, even Rush Limbaugh has never gone that far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>hate this SOB obama as well as his ignorant supporters.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ah, the smell of unity and moderation is in the air!</p>
<p>In any case it is true that Hillary has more experience than Obama, though he has spent more time as an elected official than she has. He&#8217;d likely not be running if he weren&#8217;t black and she&#8217;d likely not be running if her last name weren&#8217;t &#8220;Clinton&#8221;. I still find him to be by far the more principled of the two candidates, and the only one of the two that can hope to heal some of the polarization that has ripped this country apart.</p>
<p>Well, except for LL, I guess. Care to explain why Obama is an SOB? Quite something that, even Rush Limbaugh has never gone that far.</p>
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		<title>By: LL</title>
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		<dc:creator>LL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 16:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;However, when her rivals needle her about the experience question, particularly Obama, what they are really talking about is experience as an elected official.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
How long has obama been an elected official? He took office as a U.S. Senator in 2005, and even if you count his having been an Illinois state senator as &quot;experience&quot; qualifying him for president which I don&#039;t, he was elected to that office in 1996. So he has 10 years as an elected official overall, a little more than 2 1/2 years in national office. Exactly what makes him more qualified than Hillary. I hate this SOB obama as well as his ignorant supporters. And I&#039;m sick of the media and his supporters fawning over him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>However, when her rivals needle her about the experience question, particularly Obama, what they are really talking about is experience as an elected official.</p></blockquote>
<p>How long has obama been an elected official? He took office as a U.S. Senator in 2005, and even if you count his having been an Illinois state senator as &#8220;experience&#8221; qualifying him for president which I don&#8217;t, he was elected to that office in 1996. So he has 10 years as an elected official overall, a little more than 2 1/2 years in national office. Exactly what makes him more qualified than Hillary. I hate this SOB obama as well as his ignorant supporters. And I&#8217;m sick of the media and his supporters fawning over him.</p>
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		<title>By: LL</title>
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		<dc:creator>LL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 16:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Obama even went so far as to say that he wonders since when â€œFirst Ladyâ€ is considered experience for a presidential candidate.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
It&#039;s quite ironic for Obama to be questioning Hillary&#039;s experience since he himself is quite short on experience. This is the pot calling the kettle black. But Obama counts on his race making him immune from too harsh criticism and anyone questioning his qualifications to be president. Anyhow, she wasn&#039;t merely First Lady, she has been a Senator for the past 7 years. When exactly did Obama first take office?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Obama even went so far as to say that he wonders since when â€œFirst Ladyâ€ is considered experience for a presidential candidate.</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s quite ironic for Obama to be questioning Hillary&#8217;s experience since he himself is quite short on experience. This is the pot calling the kettle black. But Obama counts on his race making him immune from too harsh criticism and anyone questioning his qualifications to be president. Anyhow, she wasn&#8217;t merely First Lady, she has been a Senator for the past 7 years. When exactly did Obama first take office?</p>
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		<title>By: Stealth1</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/15029/hillarys-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-97870</link>
		<dc:creator>Stealth1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 16:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The experience being discussed in this post is that of simply being in the executive branch and working within it which I agree Hillary was and did. However, when her rivals needle her about the experience question, particularly Obama, what they are really talking about is experience as an elected official. There is a marked difference between being the wife of an elected official and being an elected official. No matter what you say about the media reports contending Hillary&#039;s disproportionate influence as first lady, she still was not an elected official and as such did not have people whom she was actually accountable for. Influence or not this line of reasoning means that Laura Bush is almost as experienced as Hillary to be President. 

Furthermore this experience question was already rendered a moot point as years of experience does not make for good leadership, just look at Bush or Cheyney.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The experience being discussed in this post is that of simply being in the executive branch and working within it which I agree Hillary was and did. However, when her rivals needle her about the experience question, particularly Obama, what they are really talking about is experience as an elected official. There is a marked difference between being the wife of an elected official and being an elected official. No matter what you say about the media reports contending Hillary&#8217;s disproportionate influence as first lady, she still was not an elected official and as such did not have people whom she was actually accountable for. Influence or not this line of reasoning means that Laura Bush is almost as experienced as Hillary to be President. </p>
<p>Furthermore this experience question was already rendered a moot point as years of experience does not make for good leadership, just look at Bush or Cheyney.</p>
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