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		<title>By: Michael van der Galien</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/14998/shifting-goalposts-dept-now-petraeus-report-wont-be-written-report/comment-page-1/#comment-97811</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael van der Galien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 19:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, now I don&#039;t understand it anymore. Will there be a written report or not? If so, by who? If not, why not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, now I don&#8217;t understand it anymore. Will there be a written report or not? If so, by who? If not, why not?</p>
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		<title>By: C Stanley</title>
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		<dc:creator>C Stanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 19:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rudi,
That Blackfive link you provided explains it perfectly well. Now the only question is, why do you ask about Bush saying no to writing a report? It&#039;s only because ThinkProgress and some others have twisted the fact that PETRAEUS will not write a report to say that there will be no written report (and Joe repeating that here, even though that isn&#039;t the case), that anyone is thinking that there&#039;s been a new development here. The White House has not said that it will not write a report. What is being discussed is that there will be no written report submitted by Petraeus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rudi,<br />
That Blackfive link you provided explains it perfectly well. Now the only question is, why do you ask about Bush saying no to writing a report? It&#8217;s only because ThinkProgress and some others have twisted the fact that PETRAEUS will not write a report to say that there will be no written report (and Joe repeating that here, even though that isn&#8217;t the case), that anyone is thinking that there&#8217;s been a new development here. The White House has not said that it will not write a report. What is being discussed is that there will be no written report submitted by Petraeus.</p>
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		<title>By: C Stanley</title>
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		<dc:creator>C Stanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 19:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geez, this is ridiculous.

There was a report issued by the White House in July. There will be a report issued by the White House in September.

There will be testimony by Petraeus and Crocker in September.

There will not be a written report submitted to Congress by Petraeus.

All of this is as mandated by Congress. It has not changed. NO ONE IS SAYING THAT THERE WILL BE NO WRITTEN REPORT. What is being said (and now spun in a new way) is that PETRAEUS will not be writing a report. Petraeus gives oral testimony, White House writes a report. Got it??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geez, this is ridiculous.</p>
<p>There was a report issued by the White House in July. There will be a report issued by the White House in September.</p>
<p>There will be testimony by Petraeus and Crocker in September.</p>
<p>There will not be a written report submitted to Congress by Petraeus.</p>
<p>All of this is as mandated by Congress. It has not changed. NO ONE IS SAYING THAT THERE WILL BE NO WRITTEN REPORT. What is being said (and now spun in a new way) is that PETRAEUS will not be writing a report. Petraeus gives oral testimony, White House writes a report. Got it??</p>
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		<title>By: Rudi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 04:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess BlackFive is another Far Left Liberal site or MSM.
http://www.blackfive.net/main/2007/08/the-petraeus-re.html
&lt;blockquote&gt;The &quot;Petraeus Report&quot;
Posted By Grim 
There has been some talk in the press and on the blogs that suggests the White House intends to tamper with -- or simply write -- General Petraeus&#039; assessment to Congress.  In a discussion today with a DOD Legislative Affairs expert, we got the truth.

Congress itself mandated by law who will assemble each of the several reports due in September.  It also, separately, mandated that General Petraeus be available to testify to them at this time.  

Public Law 110-28 specifes that &quot;the President, having consulted with the Secretary of State, the Secretary of Defense, the Commander, Multi-National Forces-Iraq, the United States Ambassador to Iraq, and the Commander of U.S. Central Command, will prepare the report and submit the report to Congress.&quot;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
The pro-soldiers at BlackFive also infer from the law that Bush WILL write the report. Now W says - no,no,no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess BlackFive is another Far Left Liberal site or MSM.<br />
<a href="http://www.blackfive.net/main/2007/08/the-petraeus-re.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.blackfive.net/main/2007/08/the-petraeus-re.html</a></p>
<blockquote><p>The &#8220;Petraeus Report&#8221;<br />
Posted By Grim<br />
There has been some talk in the press and on the blogs that suggests the White House intends to tamper with &#8212; or simply write &#8212; General Petraeus&#8217; assessment to Congress.  In a discussion today with a DOD Legislative Affairs expert, we got the truth.</p>
<p>Congress itself mandated by law who will assemble each of the several reports due in September.  It also, separately, mandated that General Petraeus be available to testify to them at this time.  </p>
<p>Public Law 110-28 specifes that &#8220;the President, having consulted with the Secretary of State, the Secretary of Defense, the Commander, Multi-National Forces-Iraq, the United States Ambassador to Iraq, and the Commander of U.S. Central Command, will prepare the report and submit the report to Congress.&#8221;
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<p>The pro-soldiers at BlackFive also infer from the law that Bush WILL write the report. Now W says &#8211; no,no,no?</p>
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		<title>By: Rudi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 03:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CS - Now who is spinning? This link from Defense links indicates that the Whitehouse will react to Petraeus&#039; report to determine the next action in Iraq.
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=46685
&lt;blockquote&gt;Bush to Wait for Petraeus Report Before Making New War Plan
By Fred W. Baker III
American Forces Press Service

 
WASHINGTON, July 10, 2007 â€“ President Bush today said he will wait until the top commander in Iraq issues his assessment of progress there before deciding the way ahead for the region. 
â€œI believe that itâ€™s in this nationâ€™s interest to give the commander the chance to fully implement his operations,â€ Bush said, speaking to about 400 people in a town-hall-style meeting in Cleveland. 

Bush said he believes the United States eventually can reduce its troop presence in Iraq to the number necessary to preserve the countryâ€™s territorial integrity, ensure al Qaeda doesnâ€™t gain safe haven from which to launch attacks, and continue training Iraqi troops. 

But, he said, that would not be possible without the current surge of troops. 

â€œI wouldnâ€™t ask a mother or a dad â€“ I wouldnâ€™t put their sons in harmâ€™s way â€“ if I didnâ€™t believe this was necessary for the security of the United States and peace of the world,â€ Bush said. â€œI strongly believe we will prevail. And I strongly believe that democracy will trump totalitarianism every time.â€ 

The president called the top commander in Iraq, Army Gen. David H. Petraeus, â€œsmart and capable,â€ and said the general provides candid advice. Petraeus assumed command of the Multinational Force Iraq on Feb. 10, and the surge he asked for is now under way, with the final troops needed for it having arrived last month. 

Bush will issue a report to Congress by July 15 on the progress the Iraqi government has made toward the 18 benchmarks set as part of the supplemental spending bill earlier this year. A final report is due in September. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
If no report is required or expected, why did Bush/Petraeus give an initial report in July and not plan on giving one now. Will the real report be behind closed doors?

Is Defense Link a biased site like Newsbusters or MediaMatters?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CS &#8211; Now who is spinning? This link from Defense links indicates that the Whitehouse will react to Petraeus&#8217; report to determine the next action in Iraq.<br />
<a href="http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=46685" rel="nofollow">http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=46685</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Bush to Wait for Petraeus Report Before Making New War Plan<br />
By Fred W. Baker III<br />
American Forces Press Service</p>
<p>WASHINGTON, July 10, 2007 â€“ President Bush today said he will wait until the top commander in Iraq issues his assessment of progress there before deciding the way ahead for the region.<br />
â€œI believe that itâ€™s in this nationâ€™s interest to give the commander the chance to fully implement his operations,â€ Bush said, speaking to about 400 people in a town-hall-style meeting in Cleveland. </p>
<p>Bush said he believes the United States eventually can reduce its troop presence in Iraq to the number necessary to preserve the countryâ€™s territorial integrity, ensure al Qaeda doesnâ€™t gain safe haven from which to launch attacks, and continue training Iraqi troops. </p>
<p>But, he said, that would not be possible without the current surge of troops. </p>
<p>â€œI wouldnâ€™t ask a mother or a dad â€“ I wouldnâ€™t put their sons in harmâ€™s way â€“ if I didnâ€™t believe this was necessary for the security of the United States and peace of the world,â€ Bush said. â€œI strongly believe we will prevail. And I strongly believe that democracy will trump totalitarianism every time.â€ </p>
<p>The president called the top commander in Iraq, Army Gen. David H. Petraeus, â€œsmart and capable,â€ and said the general provides candid advice. Petraeus assumed command of the Multinational Force Iraq on Feb. 10, and the surge he asked for is now under way, with the final troops needed for it having arrived last month. </p>
<p>Bush will issue a report to Congress by July 15 on the progress the Iraqi government has made toward the 18 benchmarks set as part of the supplemental spending bill earlier this year. A final report is due in September. </p></blockquote>
<p>If no report is required or expected, why did Bush/Petraeus give an initial report in July and not plan on giving one now. Will the real report be behind closed doors?</p>
<p>Is Defense Link a biased site like Newsbusters or MediaMatters?</p>
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		<title>By: C Stanley</title>
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		<dc:creator>C Stanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 02:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-sheffield/2007/08/29/petraeus-report-myth

Review: Congress mandated certain written reports, including one due in mid Sept authored by the White House.

Petraeus and Crocker are to give testimony to Congress but there was never a claim that they would submit a written report.

None of these facts have changed since day one. Please stop the spin, you&#039;re making me dizzy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-sheffield/2007/08/29/petraeus-report-myth" rel="nofollow">http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-sheffield/2007/08/29/petraeus-report-myth</a></p>
<p>Review: Congress mandated certain written reports, including one due in mid Sept authored by the White House.</p>
<p>Petraeus and Crocker are to give testimony to Congress but there was never a claim that they would submit a written report.</p>
<p>None of these facts have changed since day one. Please stop the spin, you&#8217;re making me dizzy.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 01:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spree, it is assumed since the president isn&#039;t in Iraq that the report he would be submitting to Congress would be largely the work of the General in charge of the fight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spree, it is assumed since the president isn&#8217;t in Iraq that the report he would be submitting to Congress would be largely the work of the General in charge of the fight.</p>
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		<title>By: flyerhawk</title>
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		<dc:creator>flyerhawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 00:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Amazing how people make assumptions, THEN accuse the President of wrongdoing when their assumptions end up being based on LIES&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Wha wha what?  

This comment makes no sense.   What are the lies that the assumptions are based on?  

FTR,  a report is generally considered to be a written document.   Unless of course you are looking to make excuses for the Administration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Amazing how people make assumptions, THEN accuse the President of wrongdoing when their assumptions end up being based on LIES</p></blockquote>
<p>Wha wha what?  </p>
<p>This comment makes no sense.   What are the lies that the assumptions are based on?  </p>
<p>FTR,  a report is generally considered to be a written document.   Unless of course you are looking to make excuses for the Administration.</p>
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		<title>By: spreeeziee</title>
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		<dc:creator>spreeeziee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 00:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more time, tell me where it is says in H.R.2206 that Petraues would be WRITING anything?

&lt;blockquote&gt;(A) &lt;strong&gt;The President shall submit&lt;/strong&gt; an initial report, in classified and unclassified format, to the Congress, not later than July 15, 2007, assessing the status of each of the specific benchmarks established above, and declaring, in his judgment, whether satisfactory progress toward meeting these benchmarks is, or is not, being achieved.

(B) T&lt;em&gt;he President, &lt;strong&gt;having consulted&lt;/strong&gt; with the Secretary of State, the Secretary of Defense, the Commander, Multi-National Forces Iraq, the United States Ambassador to Iraq, and the Commander of U.S. Central Command, will prepare the report and submit the report to Congress.&lt;/em&gt;

(C) If the Presidentâ€™s assessment of any of the specific benchmarks established above is unsatisfactory, the President shall include in that report a description of such revisions to the political, economic, regional, and military components of the strategy, as announced by the President on January 10, 2007. In addition, the President shall include in the report, the advisability of implementing such aspects of the bipartisan Iraq Study Group, as he deems appropriate.

(D) &lt;strong&gt;The President shall submit a second report to the Congress, not later than September 15, 2007, following the same procedures and criteria outlined above.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Amazing how people make assumptions, THEN accuse the President of wrongdoing when their assumptions end up being based on LIES.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more time, tell me where it is says in H.R.2206 that Petraues would be WRITING anything?</p>
<blockquote><p>(A) <strong>The President shall submit</strong> an initial report, in classified and unclassified format, to the Congress, not later than July 15, 2007, assessing the status of each of the specific benchmarks established above, and declaring, in his judgment, whether satisfactory progress toward meeting these benchmarks is, or is not, being achieved.</p>
<p>(B) T<em>he President, <strong>having consulted</strong> with the Secretary of State, the Secretary of Defense, the Commander, Multi-National Forces Iraq, the United States Ambassador to Iraq, and the Commander of U.S. Central Command, will prepare the report and submit the report to Congress.</em></p>
<p>(C) If the Presidentâ€™s assessment of any of the specific benchmarks established above is unsatisfactory, the President shall include in that report a description of such revisions to the political, economic, regional, and military components of the strategy, as announced by the President on January 10, 2007. In addition, the President shall include in the report, the advisability of implementing such aspects of the bipartisan Iraq Study Group, as he deems appropriate.</p>
<p>(D) <strong>The President shall submit a second report to the Congress, not later than September 15, 2007, following the same procedures and criteria outlined above.</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>Amazing how people make assumptions, THEN accuse the President of wrongdoing when their assumptions end up being based on LIES.</p>
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		<title>By: jdledell</title>
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		<dc:creator>jdledell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 00:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Essentially the White House does not want anything in writing that can be picked apart. Generalities will prevail and thus it will be impossible to counterattack the surge arguements. My guess is Bush has decided Congress won&#039;t do anything to stop or slow down the surge so why provide the opposition with any ammunitions. For a preview of Patreaus&#039; &quot;report&quot; see the letter he sent to the troops today. 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.realclearpolitics.com/RCP_PDF/PetraeusLetterSep7.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Patreaus Letter&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Essentially the White House does not want anything in writing that can be picked apart. Generalities will prevail and thus it will be impossible to counterattack the surge arguements. My guess is Bush has decided Congress won&#8217;t do anything to stop or slow down the surge so why provide the opposition with any ammunitions. For a preview of Patreaus&#8217; &#8220;report&#8221; see the letter he sent to the troops today. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.realclearpolitics.com/RCP_PDF/PetraeusLetterSep7.pdf" rel="nofollow">Patreaus Letter</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 00:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Bush administration seems to take perverse joy in jerking around the American people.  It long ago stopped serving our interests, and perhaps never did.   How many times does the president get to slap us in the face like this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Bush administration seems to take perverse joy in jerking around the American people.  It long ago stopped serving our interests, and perhaps never did.   How many times does the president get to slap us in the face like this?</p>
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