Comments on: Daily Caller Reporter Heckles Obama During White House Statement on Immigration: Unprecedented and Inexcusable (UPDATED) http://themoderatevoice.com/149895/daily-caller-reporter-heckles-obama-during-white-house-statement-on-immigration-unprecedented-and-inexcusable/ An Internet hub with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, indies, centrists, moderates, and right Wed, 01 May 2013 19:08:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: Got a question for His Royal Highness? What are you, a racist? | Unified Patriots http://themoderatevoice.com/149895/daily-caller-reporter-heckles-obama-during-white-house-statement-on-immigration-unprecedented-and-inexcusable/comment-page-1/#comment-311189 Got a question for His Royal Highness? What are you, a racist? | Unified Patriots Tue, 19 Jun 2012 05:13:25 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=149895#comment-311189 [...] never been interrupted with questions (yes, the word “unprecedented” was used here, here, and here) or treated with such disrespect. A panel at MSLSD flat out called it “blatant [...]

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By: CStanley http://themoderatevoice.com/149895/daily-caller-reporter-heckles-obama-during-white-house-statement-on-immigration-unprecedented-and-inexcusable/comment-page-1/#comment-311078 CStanley Mon, 18 Jun 2012 11:32:45 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=149895#comment-311078 SB- if you’ll reread you’ll see that I raised the point with regard to all of our presidents, past, present, and future. I think we ‘d be better served if presidents would hold more press conferences instead of being shielded by their press secretaries.

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By: StockBoyLA http://themoderatevoice.com/149895/daily-caller-reporter-heckles-obama-during-white-house-statement-on-immigration-unprecedented-and-inexcusable/comment-page-1/#comment-311058 StockBoyLA Sun, 17 Jun 2012 23:26:01 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=149895#comment-311058 What’s-his-name interrupted President Obama and wanted a question answered and President Obama DID answer what’s-his-name’s question. The answer is in the video. As far as other questions from other journalists… I honestly don’t know how many questions Obama ended up answering. I always thought the WH press secretary’s job was to hold regular press conferences and answer reporters’ questions. It’s what Bush’s press secretary did whenever Bush had a controversial topic (or even non-controversial topic). Not sure why it is expected that Obama has to hold press conferences all the time and answer questions. If so Obama can become the press secretary and promote the press secretary to be president to handle the workload the office of president demands.

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By: The_Ohioan http://themoderatevoice.com/149895/daily-caller-reporter-heckles-obama-during-white-house-statement-on-immigration-unprecedented-and-inexcusable/comment-page-1/#comment-311026 The_Ohioan Sun, 17 Jun 2012 13:31:04 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=149895#comment-311026 DG

I think that’s always the way Presidents handle controversial actions. I could be wrong. It only makes sense to let surrogates field questions for a while, then make a further elucidation in future press conferences or (in an election year) in campaign speeches.

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By: DaGoat http://themoderatevoice.com/149895/daily-caller-reporter-heckles-obama-during-white-house-statement-on-immigration-unprecedented-and-inexcusable/comment-page-1/#comment-311023 DaGoat Sun, 17 Jun 2012 12:37:47 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=149895#comment-311023 I could be getting confused – I thought I read a couple of days ago Obama was going to have a Q&A with international reporters on this topic, and assumed that’s what Stockboy was referring to. Now I can’t find anything about it so possibly I misunderstood what I read.

So far anyway as far as I know Obama has ducked any questioning on this. He’ll send out his surrogates to the Sunday talk shows then let Jay Carney get beat up tomorrow in the press briefing.

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By: CStanley http://themoderatevoice.com/149895/daily-caller-reporter-heckles-obama-during-white-house-statement-on-immigration-unprecedented-and-inexcusable/comment-page-1/#comment-311018 CStanley Sun, 17 Jun 2012 11:29:44 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=149895#comment-311018 Stockboy- as DaGoat said, this wasn’t a press conference, it was a formal statement read out to reporters in the Rose Garden. My criticism here isn’t specific to Obama, as our presidents have done this sort of thing for as long as I can remember. Most interaction and questioning between journalists and the White House goes on with the press secretaries, who insulate the president….I just don’t think that’s a very healthy way for the public to get information and have questions answered in a democratic system.

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By: StockBoyLA http://themoderatevoice.com/149895/daily-caller-reporter-heckles-obama-during-white-house-statement-on-immigration-unprecedented-and-inexcusable/comment-page-1/#comment-311002 StockBoyLA Sun, 17 Jun 2012 02:37:31 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=149895#comment-311002 “To answer your question though, a better way would have been to hold a press conference with the usual US journalists.”

I hear that! With the usual US journalists we wouldn’t have had riff raff like Neil Munro.

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By: Sam Donaldson: Don’t Compare Me With Reporter That Interrupted Obama | The Penn Ave Post http://themoderatevoice.com/149895/daily-caller-reporter-heckles-obama-during-white-house-statement-on-immigration-unprecedented-and-inexcusable/comment-page-1/#comment-310992 Sam Donaldson: Don’t Compare Me With Reporter That Interrupted Obama | The Penn Ave Post Sun, 17 Jun 2012 01:46:16 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=149895#comment-310992 [...] Me With Reporter That Interrupted Obama Posted at 9:46 on June 16, 2012 by As I’ve note here on TMV and on my Twitter account, when a Daily Caller reporter interrupted President Barack Obama [...]

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By: DaGoat http://themoderatevoice.com/149895/daily-caller-reporter-heckles-obama-during-white-house-statement-on-immigration-unprecedented-and-inexcusable/comment-page-1/#comment-310954 DaGoat Sat, 16 Jun 2012 16:31:05 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=149895#comment-310954 OK… then what setting would you recommend as better than a press conference for a president to address a large number of international reporters and encourage questioning?

I read about that press conference yesterday but can’t find much about it. Your question is kind of a deflection since the press conference you speak of was not the way Obama chose to present his views to the country, rather he wanted to come out, make a statement and go back in the White House.

To answer your question though, a better way would have been to hold a press conference with the usual US journalists. I understand his decision impacts other countries but there is no reason to make that the primary focus of the conference.

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By: StockBoyLA http://themoderatevoice.com/149895/daily-caller-reporter-heckles-obama-during-white-house-statement-on-immigration-unprecedented-and-inexcusable/comment-page-1/#comment-310950 StockBoyLA Sat, 16 Jun 2012 15:36:09 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=149895#comment-310950 CStanleyu: “I’m sure there are times that are more formal settings where deference should be given, but it seems a bit to me that our presidents tend to manage the settings a bit too much by opting to speak in those formats too much and not in the settings that allow or encourage questioning.”

OK… then what setting would you recommend as better than a press conference for a president to address a large number of international reporters and encourage questioning?

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By: CStanley http://themoderatevoice.com/149895/daily-caller-reporter-heckles-obama-during-white-house-statement-on-immigration-unprecedented-and-inexcusable/comment-page-1/#comment-310945 CStanley Sat, 16 Jun 2012 13:57:10 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=149895#comment-310945 Yeah, rude and stupid….because as DaGoat pointed out, this guy became the story. It seems that rather than actually trying to get a response to a question, his goal was probably to highlight the reticence to answer questions (which is I think a perennial and valid complaint by journalists in these settings.) Had he not been rude about it, but instead shouted out at the end even if he didn’t get an answer then he could report that Obama refused to answer questions about this important policy shift. Instead the story is that of course Obama wasn’t willing to stop mid-sentence to take questions befor the announcement was even completed.

Having said that, i happen to think there’s too much deference given to presidents in these kinds of settings and i really don’t blame reporters for pushing back, as long as it’s done properly. And i do wonder about Joe’s claim that all other countries practice that decorum (i’m not questioning Joe’s experience with this, just saying that it may not be universal.) i’m thinking particularly of the UK, because although i don’t recall if I’ve seen interactions at press conferences there is certainly a lot more give and take between opposition party members in parliamentary sessions. I could be wrong but there seems to be a lot less deference and more verbal sparring, which i would imagine taking place between journalists and party ministers there too, which i think is a healthy thing. I’m sure there are times that are more formal settings where deference should be given, but it seems a bit to me that our presidents tend to manage the settings a bit too much by opting to speak in those formats too much and not in the settings that allow or encourage questioning.

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By: DaGoat http://themoderatevoice.com/149895/daily-caller-reporter-heckles-obama-during-white-house-statement-on-immigration-unprecedented-and-inexcusable/comment-page-1/#comment-310942 DaGoat Sat, 16 Jun 2012 13:11:09 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=149895#comment-310942 Munro’s an idiot, and a rude one. No excuse for interrupting the president like that.

What’s also pretty sad though is that this is the big story on Memeorandum this AM. What does it say about the shallowness of the blogosphere when the actions of a rude reporter are bigger news than a momentous decision by the president?

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By: kafantaris http://themoderatevoice.com/149895/daily-caller-reporter-heckles-obama-during-white-house-statement-on-immigration-unprecedented-and-inexcusable/comment-page-1/#comment-310940 kafantaris Sat, 16 Jun 2012 12:38:28 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=149895#comment-310940 A reporter reports. When you insert yourself into the story, by heckling or otherwise, you become part of the story.
Being on the side of the angels does not change this. You are still an observer — the eyes and ears for the rest of us who are not there. In your own style, we merely want you to tell us what you saw and heard.
If you cannot settle for this limited role and have the urge to do more, then please leave your reporter’s credentials at the door. There is nothing wrong with acting on your convictions. But you absolutely cannot do so while covering an event you are reporting on.
This is the golden rule of journalism. Even pundits try to follow it.

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By: StockBoyLA http://themoderatevoice.com/149895/daily-caller-reporter-heckles-obama-during-white-house-statement-on-immigration-unprecedented-and-inexcusable/comment-page-1/#comment-310937 StockBoyLA Sat, 16 Jun 2012 07:45:17 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=149895#comment-310937 No excuse for this behavior and in fact there should be more respect in this country overall. Too many people in this country are rude. No one should interrupt someone else when they are speaking. And if someone is speaking too much, then they should shut up and let someone else get a word in. It’s just as rude to hog the entire conversation as it is to interrupt. Rudeness comes in many forms, all of which are prevalent in America today.

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By: zephyr http://themoderatevoice.com/149895/daily-caller-reporter-heckles-obama-during-white-house-statement-on-immigration-unprecedented-and-inexcusable/comment-page-1/#comment-310933 zephyr Sat, 16 Jun 2012 06:58:17 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=149895#comment-310933 There is no excuse for such crappy behavior nor is there any excuse for apologism, rationalization – nor any “both sides” nonsense. What Dr Bob and Dr E said. Our country is awash in low standards and it is painful to watch. There needs to be more accountability, just as there is accountability for children who test the limits of bad behavior with their parents.

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By: The_Ohioan http://themoderatevoice.com/149895/daily-caller-reporter-heckles-obama-during-white-house-statement-on-immigration-unprecedented-and-inexcusable/comment-page-1/#comment-310926 The_Ohioan Sat, 16 Jun 2012 04:13:14 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=149895#comment-310926 ad

The study doesn’t say only liberals were motivated to vote for him. Obviously some conservatives did, also, or the numbers wouldn’t have been so high. He’s not comparing Democrats to Republicans anyway. In fact “Republican” appears only once in the piece. Perhaps a second read would clear all that up.

I’m not a scientist so don’t know if the study was valid or not, you would have to take that up with the NY Times. It’s been a long time since I did any research, but I don’t see a problem with his concept. If you find a reputable refutation, I’d be glad to look at it.

“your argument that that makes every criticism of the president racially motivated is quite a leap.”

Of course I said no such thing. I certainly have criticized Obama, as you should well know, if you have been here any length of time and it wasn’t because of his race.

What I said was the disrespect shown by the congress people I gave examples of and used by this reporter is unprecedented. I have no idea if Mr. Munro is a racist or not, either. Nor does it matter. What he did was disrespectful and encourages more disrespect which was the point of this article.

My conclusion, you don’t have to agree, is that the unprecedented disrespect this President has recieved from before he was even elected is a product of racism. Unprecedented is the qualifier.

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By: drbob10001 http://themoderatevoice.com/149895/daily-caller-reporter-heckles-obama-during-white-house-statement-on-immigration-unprecedented-and-inexcusable/comment-page-1/#comment-310924 drbob10001 Sat, 16 Jun 2012 03:34:06 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=149895#comment-310924 Look, Republicans and their supporters are bullies, plain and simple. From liking to fire people, to cutting the locks of a different kind of class mate long ago Romney is the poster boy for the “you lie” thuggery that has taken over the party of the bully rich. The so-called moderates and independents who support the Republicans in light of their anti-immigrant, anti-gay and anti-women stands, despite their rationalizations based on the “economy,” are wanna be bullies just chomping at the bit for the pleasure of pushing someone around. Enough already, it’s time that the media take its responsibility seriously and call them all out.

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By: Fox News Bigwigs Blast Daily Caller Reporter for Heckling Obama | The Penn Ave Post http://themoderatevoice.com/149895/daily-caller-reporter-heckles-obama-during-white-house-statement-on-immigration-unprecedented-and-inexcusable/comment-page-1/#comment-310922 Fox News Bigwigs Blast Daily Caller Reporter for Heckling Obama | The Penn Ave Post Sat, 16 Jun 2012 03:31:22 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=149895#comment-310922 [...] Posted at 11:31 on June 15, 2012 by After some of the Tweets I got after I put my reaction to the unprecedented spectacle of a Daily Caller reporter apparently doing an imitation of a talk radio host or the late Morton [...]

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By: adelinesdad http://themoderatevoice.com/149895/daily-caller-reporter-heckles-obama-during-white-house-statement-on-immigration-unprecedented-and-inexcusable/comment-page-1/#comment-310920 adelinesdad Sat, 16 Jun 2012 03:25:09 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=149895#comment-310920 TO, the “study” you cite is highly questionable and I don’t think would even qualify as a study even by the author of it. For one thing, I think the assumption that only liberals were motivated to vote for Obama because of his race is highly doubtful. You could just as well argue that only Republicans would not vote for him because of his race, but that would contradict his argument so he goes to great trouble to prove that wrong while not putting his own convenient assumption up to the same rigor.

But, of course I wouldn’t argue there is no racism. But, your argument that that makes every criticism of the president racially motivated is quite a leap.

I have no idea if this guy is racist, but I don’t see any reason to suppose that. He was clearly out of line, and the President was right to be angry.

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By: cjjack http://themoderatevoice.com/149895/daily-caller-reporter-heckles-obama-during-white-house-statement-on-immigration-unprecedented-and-inexcusable/comment-page-1/#comment-310919 cjjack Sat, 16 Jun 2012 02:58:35 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=149895#comment-310919 Was what this “reporter” did disrespectful to the office of the President? Absolutely.

Was it unprofessional and a disgrace to journalism at large? You bet.

But more importantly (in my opinion), it was flat-out rude. If the guy were a local television reporter covering the opening of a new store who interrupted the ribbon cutting ceremony, or a heckler at a comedy club, my reaction – had I been standing next to the guy – would be the same.

“Sit down and shut up, this isn’t about you.”

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By: Dr. J http://themoderatevoice.com/149895/daily-caller-reporter-heckles-obama-during-white-house-statement-on-immigration-unprecedented-and-inexcusable/comment-page-1/#comment-310918 Dr. J Sat, 16 Jun 2012 02:33:40 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=149895#comment-310918 This was pretty bad behavior.

Maybe this is the twitter effect, whereby everyone regardless of station becomes accessible to everyone else. It’s startling to see a president stripped of the aura of respect that presidents have always gotten, to see democracy democratized too far.

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By: PATRICK EDABURN, Assistant Editor http://themoderatevoice.com/149895/daily-caller-reporter-heckles-obama-during-white-house-statement-on-immigration-unprecedented-and-inexcusable/comment-page-1/#comment-310917 PATRICK EDABURN, Assistant Editor Sat, 16 Jun 2012 02:26:11 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=149895#comment-310917 There is, IMHO, a difference between shouting a question when the President/politician in question is just ignoring questions and when they are still speaking.

Then again Daily Caller is hardly the peak of journalistic integrity

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By: DR. CLARISSA PINKOLA ESTÉS, Managing Editor of TMV, and Columnist http://themoderatevoice.com/149895/daily-caller-reporter-heckles-obama-during-white-house-statement-on-immigration-unprecedented-and-inexcusable/comment-page-1/#comment-310915 DR. CLARISSA PINKOLA ESTÉS, Managing Editor of TMV, and Columnist Sat, 16 Jun 2012 02:19:43 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=149895#comment-310915 Discipline is the earmark of the well trained professional journalist. ‘Citizen op ed,’ is different. Some get their five minutes for having political Tourette’s in op ed format, then go the way of others forgotten in time.

Some tout ‘shout outs’ as brave. Not in my book in this circumstance. Just for proportion, real bravery, confrontation: I’d copy my father and grandfathers perspective about bravery: stand in a war and face death. Respect earned by standing when your life and other lives are threatened by death in this very moment, death right now. Not metaphoric death. Not maybe, kinda, sorta, could be death. Not pre-planning to purposely blurt in front of cameras during a meeting of people, 99.5% of whom are unarmed.

Most often grandstanding isnt done to change matters for the better. It’s done to get strokes from those who’d agree. However, most grandstanders (not to be confused with activists like martin king, chavez, etc) are dropped on their heads when their quasi supporters find new blood to ‘shout out as the ‘old ones’ will be barred from most if not all gatherings.

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By: PATRICK EDABURN, Assistant Editor http://themoderatevoice.com/149895/daily-caller-reporter-heckles-obama-during-white-house-statement-on-immigration-unprecedented-and-inexcusable/comment-page-1/#comment-310914 PATRICK EDABURN, Assistant Editor Sat, 16 Jun 2012 01:57:27 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=149895#comment-310914 Ok for some reason it cut off part of my response.

To recap, the behavior of the reporter was totally inexcusable and I agree that no professional reporter from either side of the political fence would have acted that way with any President.

That said, there is plenty of disrespect on both sides, which is sad.

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By: PATRICK EDABURN, Assistant Editor http://themoderatevoice.com/149895/daily-caller-reporter-heckles-obama-during-white-house-statement-on-immigration-unprecedented-and-inexcusable/comment-page-1/#comment-310913 PATRICK EDABURN, Assistant Editor Sat, 16 Jun 2012 01:53:32 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=149895#comment-310913 Absolutely no excuse for what the idiot “reporter” did. He ought to have his credentials pulled.

But I do find the “well my side only is critical of the other side when they deserve it” is also a bit old.

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By: The_Ohioan http://themoderatevoice.com/149895/daily-caller-reporter-heckles-obama-during-white-house-statement-on-immigration-unprecedented-and-inexcusable/comment-page-1/#comment-310909 The_Ohioan Fri, 15 Jun 2012 23:55:11 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=149895#comment-310909 Disrespect was directed at President Bush – because of his policies and because of his execution of those policies. The disrespect directed at President Obama seems to be more personal animus than based on policy decisions.

Shouting “You lie” (also about immigration) in the middle of a State of the Union message – unprecedented. Ignoring a request to address congress then deciding the date the President requested was not convenient – unprecedented. Refusing to attend a State of the Union – unprecedented. Why this unprecedented disrespect for a sitting president is occurring now is open to interpretation.

We know some things. A new study says Obama would have won bigger if not for race.
http://campaignstops.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/09/how-racist-are-we-ask-google/

We know the Secret Service reports the rate of threats against President Obama is up 400% over President Bush.
http://www.drudge.com/archive/123755/death-threats-against-president-up-400

We know we’ve never seen signs like those at the Tea Party rallies since the busing controversy in the 1970’s.

http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?_adv_prop=image&fr=yfp-t-701-14-s&va=tea+party+signs

We know a very smart woman said Obama couldn’t win because of race. She should have said he couldn’t govern because of race.

This is something black people can’t say without being called racist or “playing the race card”. I’m not black. I’m saying it. The people using the disrespect tactics may not be racists. They have no compunction about using those tactics to inflame those who are. Chris Matthews for a while talked about how worried he was about the “zeitgeist” in the air. I’m worried as well, but no I’m longer going to pussyfoot around about calling it what it is. It’s racism. If we don’t face it and fight it now, we never will.

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