Comments on: Defense Update — Chairman of JCS Critical of Administration’s Lack of Military Direction on Syria (Updated/‘Corrected’ by ‘The Hill’) http://themoderatevoice.com/149240/defense-update-chairman-of-jcs-critical-of-administration%e2%80%99s-lack-of-military-direction-on-syria/ An Internet hub with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, indies, centrists, moderates, and right Sun, 21 Apr 2013 13:49:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: Pentagon Completes Plans for Syria with or without White House Direction | The Penn Ave Post http://themoderatevoice.com/149240/defense-update-chairman-of-jcs-critical-of-administration%e2%80%99s-lack-of-military-direction-on-syria/comment-page-1/#comment-310832 Pentagon Completes Plans for Syria with or without White House Direction | The Penn Ave Post Fri, 15 Jun 2012 14:32:25 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=149240#comment-310832 [...] Plans for Syria with or without White House Direction Posted at 10:32 on June 15, 2012 by After confusing and conflicting reports last week on [...]

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By: DORIAN DE WIND, Military Affairs Columnist http://themoderatevoice.com/149240/defense-update-chairman-of-jcs-critical-of-administration%e2%80%99s-lack-of-military-direction-on-syria/comment-page-1/#comment-310459 DORIAN DE WIND, Military Affairs Columnist Sat, 09 Jun 2012 20:03:09 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=149240#comment-310459 You make some good points and raise some good questions, Marsman.

My two cents worth is that when such atrocities, such mass murders of innocent men, women and children occur on such a massive scale, we (perhaps just I) expect that those with the knowledge, those with the expertise and above all those with the appropriate means and power (such as our government) to do everything within their power –perhaps short of war — to stop it.

How? That is why we pay our taxes and “hire” all these experts to figure it out.

And, no, it is not America’s “chore” to fix every humanitarian disaster, but we can sure give it a try.

Or, we could close our eyes and then piously say — after the fact — “Never Again.”

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By: Marsman http://themoderatevoice.com/149240/defense-update-chairman-of-jcs-critical-of-administration%e2%80%99s-lack-of-military-direction-on-syria/comment-page-1/#comment-310452 Marsman Sat, 09 Jun 2012 18:15:56 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=149240#comment-310452 I have never been to Syria, have not studied Syrian history, do not read Syrian newspapers, and only know one Syrian who sells falafel in a shopping mall near me. Please excuse my ignorance, but I have the sense that most people talking about Syria don’t have more knowledge than I do.
Are we at war with Syria? Are they any kind of threat to us in any reasonable scenario? Who are the rebels? What are the rebels’ objectives and methods? Would we be better off with the current guys or the rebels in control of Syria?
I am not callous to the humanitarian concerns raised by any war, but I think that a lot of fundamental questions should be answered before any military action, and giving arms to one faction is a military intervention.
It would be ok with me if fixing every war on earth was not an American chore.

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By: DORIAN DE WIND, Military Affairs Columnist http://themoderatevoice.com/149240/defense-update-chairman-of-jcs-critical-of-administration%e2%80%99s-lack-of-military-direction-on-syria/comment-page-1/#comment-310409 DORIAN DE WIND, Military Affairs Columnist Fri, 08 Jun 2012 22:57:05 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=149240#comment-310409 @shough195:

I was equally surprised to read the reported Dempsey comments.

The Hill now has a somewhat different version (See UPDATE above)

However, I am still puzzled at comments about not having done “any military planning” for Syria.

The Pentagon has detailed plans for almost every conceivable conflict or situation.

They are called “contingency plans.”

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By: RON BEASLEY http://themoderatevoice.com/149240/defense-update-chairman-of-jcs-critical-of-administration%e2%80%99s-lack-of-military-direction-on-syria/comment-page-1/#comment-310408 RON BEASLEY Fri, 08 Jun 2012 22:40:28 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=149240#comment-310408 There should be no military direction on Syria. It is a tribal war, religious war and civil war rolled into one. Intervention would destabilize the entire region. Intervention would be insanity.

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By: RON BEASLEY http://themoderatevoice.com/149240/defense-update-chairman-of-jcs-critical-of-administration%e2%80%99s-lack-of-military-direction-on-syria/comment-page-1/#comment-310405 RON BEASLEY Fri, 08 Jun 2012 20:52:33 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=149240#comment-310405 There should be NO military direction when it come to Syria. Any thought of intervention is insanity. It is a civil war, a tribal war and a religious war all rolled into one. It would be incredibly destabilizing for the entire region. Daniel Larison has been making the best arguments against intervention.
The dangers Satloff lists include the Syrian regime’s loss of control of its biological and chemical weapons stockpile, renewed Syrian support for the PKK to punish Turkey for helping the opposition, Syrian expulsion of Palestinian refugees into neighboring countries, Syrian-backed attacks on Sunnis in Lebanon, and an influx of jihadists into Syria. Of these, the first and last seem most plausible, but it appears that none of the usual measures proposed for intervention in Syria would do anything to prevent them.

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By: shough195@gmail.com http://themoderatevoice.com/149240/defense-update-chairman-of-jcs-critical-of-administration%e2%80%99s-lack-of-military-direction-on-syria/comment-page-1/#comment-310404 shough195@gmail.com Fri, 08 Jun 2012 20:51:23 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=149240#comment-310404 I can’t imagine the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff making such as statement, in public, but it begs the question: What would the US be able to do militarily, in light of opposition from Russia and China?

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By: RP http://themoderatevoice.com/149240/defense-update-chairman-of-jcs-critical-of-administration%e2%80%99s-lack-of-military-direction-on-syria/comment-page-1/#comment-310398 RP Fri, 08 Jun 2012 19:21:06 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=149240#comment-310398 The Ohioan…When it comes to strategic planning for military operations, money is not part of the planning.

What the military planners need is a clear directive as to what the outcome needs to be and what parameters do they have to operate within. Such as Iraq–Bush 41 clearly told the military to oust Hussian from Kuwait. Once done, stop any further operations. Bush 43 clearly told the military to capture or kill Hussian. And the knew how much power they could use to get it done.

Obama has followed his script with his leadership style (or lack of) by “vaguely maintaining the option for military response has put Pentagon planners in a strategic bind.” Once again he has indicated what he might want, but has not provided the leadership like he has so many times with the debt, deficit, economic policies and healthcare. He had deferred to others without giving clear directives as to the outcome he wants.

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By: The_Ohioan http://themoderatevoice.com/149240/defense-update-chairman-of-jcs-critical-of-administration%e2%80%99s-lack-of-military-direction-on-syria/comment-page-1/#comment-310392 The_Ohioan Fri, 08 Jun 2012 18:34:27 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=149240#comment-310392 From someone who knew what he was talking about:

“No battle plan survives contact with the enemy.” Gen. George S. Patton.

I’m wondering if General Dempsey was in on the planning for the invasion of Iraq? I would think that nearly $700 billion dollars a YEAR would cover thinking/planning for any contingency. It’s not like there’s no equipment or troops over there, already.

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