Comments on: The Auction Election that Killed Labor http://themoderatevoice.com/149097/the-auction-election-that-killed-labor/ An Internet hub with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, indies, centrists, moderates, and right Sun, 21 Apr 2013 03:27:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: isilwath http://themoderatevoice.com/149097/the-auction-election-that-killed-labor/comment-page-1/#comment-310333 isilwath Fri, 08 Jun 2012 00:28:44 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=149097#comment-310333 Slamfu -

I wonder that myself every day. I don’t know. Maybe it’s because TV has programmed us to only pay attention in 12-15 min increments so politicians know we can be easily distracted with “Ok look at that shiny thingy!” “Oh, look! A rabbit!” Or because for some reason we can’t see through the smoke and mirrors.

I don’t know. It seems that even in the “information age” we’re more uniformed than our parents and grandparents about the working of our government.

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By: slamfu http://themoderatevoice.com/149097/the-auction-election-that-killed-labor/comment-page-1/#comment-310319 slamfu Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:59:24 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=149097#comment-310319 Beat me to it isilwath. Walker has really pulled the wool over the eyes of WI voters with that stunt. Also when he got the unions to agree to his cuts. Classic case of GOP fiscal policy that shifts tax burderns from Rich to Poor, made all the more shameless by the tough times we are in. How do they keep doing that and still get votes?

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By: isilwath http://themoderatevoice.com/149097/the-auction-election-that-killed-labor/comment-page-1/#comment-310314 isilwath Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:08:31 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=149097#comment-310314 The crippling budget deficit that Walker touted was created by him.
http://host.madison.com/ct/news/opinion/editorial/article_61064e9a-27b0-5f28-b6d1-a57c8b2aaaf6.html

WI will still have a $3.6B deficit.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2012/02/14/will-gov-scott-walker-ever-come-clean-on-wisconsins-budget-deficit/

Walker also used the funds meant for foreclosed homeowners affected by the mortgage crisis to plug his own budget hole:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2012/02/11/gov-scott-walker-pockets-money-intended-for-wisconsin-foreclosure-victims-to-make-up-state-budget-shortfall/

Yes, there have been some health care savings now that the school districts can negotiate individually for health care, but WI is far from being on sound fiscal footing and Walker is not above using creative accounting to make his numbers look better.

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By: ShannonLeee http://themoderatevoice.com/149097/the-auction-election-that-killed-labor/comment-page-1/#comment-310300 ShannonLeee Thu, 07 Jun 2012 17:05:08 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=149097#comment-310300 My impression of those numbers is that Barrett was a bad candidate then and a bad candidate this time around. I still think money made a difference, but the general opinion of Barrett did not change much between the two elections.

need more crunching I guess

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By: ShannonLeee http://themoderatevoice.com/149097/the-auction-election-that-killed-labor/comment-page-1/#comment-310299 ShannonLeee Thu, 07 Jun 2012 17:00:59 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=149097#comment-310299 “Barrett lost 38% of union households”

wow, I didnt know that. That is unreal. That is a massive failure by Dems.

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By: Blu http://themoderatevoice.com/149097/the-auction-election-that-killed-labor/comment-page-1/#comment-310297 Blu Thu, 07 Jun 2012 16:52:57 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=149097#comment-310297 I regard the reference in your article to “hate”, apparently as a suggestion that Republican political philosophy is based on hatred, as a classic example of the defense mechanism of projection.

You posted an article in which you expressed condemnation for the Republican party and for all who supported its position in the Wisconsin recall election, and you denigrated those who hold political beliefs which differ from the beliefs that you hold, all without printing one word of fact about the underlying issues.

You seethe with hatred for those who in good faith hold political beliefs with which you disagree, and resorted to mindless name calling.

I read not one word in your article about the crippling budget deficit that faced Governor Walker, not one word about how that deficit was almost entirely eliminated under his governorship, not one word about how the unemployment rate was cut in Wisconsin, not one word about how the state avoided massive layoffs which would have otherwise been necessary, not one word about how Democrat legislators abdicated their positions and fled the state rather than to allow the government that was lawfully chosen by the voters to function, not one word about how public employee union members walked off of their jobs and in mob fashion caused very costly damage to the capital buildings, not one word about how the unions threw a tantrum which inflicted millions of dollars of expense on the people of Wisconsin by pushing for the recall election, and not one word about how a recall is appropriate when an elected official commits a crime or other serious transgression and is not appropriate simply become one does not agree with a policy that is legally adopted by that official.

Try to contain your hatred and to elevate your writing to a level which reflects respect for facts and logic. Better yet, try to rid yourself of that hatred. People will always hold differing opinions on matters. Respect the right of others to express their opinions. Respect the right of the voters to choose their elected officials. Respect the right of elected officials to lawfully govern even when you may disagree with their course of action. Consider the possibility that you might actually be wrong. Perhaps the voters affirmed Walker as their governor because his policies have yielded positive results. Perhaps the voters rejected the position of the Democrat party because they were appalled by the destructive and childish conduct of that party.

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By: RP http://themoderatevoice.com/149097/the-auction-election-that-killed-labor/comment-page-1/#comment-310290 RP Thu, 07 Jun 2012 15:29:25 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=149097#comment-310290 “Karl Rove and Company put Wisconsin up for sale”…WHAT????Wonder where you were when the Democrats picked this fight? Get your facts staight, Rove did not put this up for sale, but he brought the proverbial “gun to a knife fight”.The Democrats started this fight and the citizens of Wisconsin ended it.

Had they let the normal course of elected office terms run its course, they may have had a much better chance of winning back the office as the recall was set up for failure. Could they not see the Republicans would view this as a referendum on their policies just before a national election and through in everything including the kitchen sink to defeat the recall effort.

“Michael Moore tweeted this on Tuesday night: Lose a battle here & there, but trust me we’ll win the war”. Maybe he would want to check out the votes in San Diego and San Jose before he keeps defending policies and parties that promote futre generations paying for current entitlements for union members.

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