http://themoderatevoice.com/14891/anti-americanism-in-europe-myth-or-reality/ An Internet hub with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, indies, centrists, moderates, and right Wed, 15 Feb 2012 13:18:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 http://themoderatevoice.com/14891/anti-americanism-in-europe-myth-or-reality/comment-page-1/#comment-97204 Simon Sun, 02 Sep 2007 19:04:40 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/places/europe/14891/anti-americanism-in-europe-myth-or-reality/#comment-97204 Perhaps Surber overstates it, but it suggests that this hatred for America may be a reality rather than a myth, but it is a reality that doesn't hold great sway. It might break a tie between two otherwise undifferentiated candidates, but that seems unlikely to occur. Perhaps Surber overstates it, but it suggests that this hatred for America may be a reality rather than a myth, but it is a reality that doesn’t hold great sway. It might break a tie between two otherwise undifferentiated candidates, but that seems unlikely to occur.

]]> http://themoderatevoice.com/14891/anti-americanism-in-europe-myth-or-reality/comment-page-1/#comment-97182 Don Surber » Blog Archive » Dems should be like Bush Sun, 02 Sep 2007 14:28:29 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/places/europe/14891/anti-americanism-in-europe-myth-or-reality/#comment-97182 [...] Michael van der Galien wrote: “The voters did not elect these people because they are (relatively) pro-America, they voted [...] [...] Michael van der Galien wrote: “The voters did not elect these people because they are (relatively) pro-America, they voted [...]

]]> http://themoderatevoice.com/14891/anti-americanism-in-europe-myth-or-reality/comment-page-1/#comment-97177 Lynx Sun, 02 Sep 2007 13:27:40 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/places/europe/14891/anti-americanism-in-europe-myth-or-reality/#comment-97177 I must concur (yes, I know, you're shocked ;) ). If anything these leaders have been chosen <em>despite</em> their pro-American stance, not because of it. In any case since when has any leader been chosen on the basis of their relationship with another country more than on the basis of their internal politics? Americans would consider it (rightly) pretentious in the extreme if the French decided that Americans had chosen Bush for an anti-French stance. As if the center of our lives was France and not the US. The center of the lives of people in Germany and France is (rightfully) Germany and France. These more conservative leaders are rising because of disenchantment with the left that is sweeping Europe. Europeans are still very progressive by American standards, but the supposed representatives of those values are corrupt and ineffective, often much more concerned with the "feel-good" aspect of things than actual results. This is why I can't vote for the (so-called) left in Spain, though I still can't bring myself to vote for the (also so-called) conservatives. The US has nothing to do with it, anti-Americanism is still sadly flourishing, gleefully reinforced by reports of Americans unable to find Europe on a map (while a good number of Europeans can roughly place many US STATES on a map) and things like the election and re-election of Bush. I must concur (yes, I know, you’re shocked ). If anything these leaders have been chosen despite their pro-American stance, not because of it. In any case since when has any leader been chosen on the basis of their relationship with another country more than on the basis of their internal politics? Americans would consider it (rightly) pretentious in the extreme if the French decided that Americans had chosen Bush for an anti-French stance. As if the center of our lives was France and not the US. The center of the lives of people in Germany and France is (rightfully) Germany and France. These more conservative leaders are rising because of disenchantment with the left that is sweeping Europe. Europeans are still very progressive by American standards, but the supposed representatives of those values are corrupt and ineffective, often much more concerned with the “feel-good” aspect of things than actual results. This is why I can’t vote for the (so-called) left in Spain, though I still can’t bring myself to vote for the (also so-called) conservatives. The US has nothing to do with it, anti-Americanism is still sadly flourishing, gleefully reinforced by reports of Americans unable to find Europe on a map (while a good number of Europeans can roughly place many US STATES on a map) and things like the election and re-election of Bush.

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