Because I am a one state solution type guy. If In America we can live side by side with Blacks and Jews and Hispanics and Asians and American Indians and have a peaceful society then its possible in the ME as well.

No, it isn’t possible to live in peace with muslims. Muslims are in conflict everywhere in the world with everyone, including each other.

It is in Israel’s best interests not to create a palestinian terror state.

The 50 year time line may turn out to be true, but it would be dangerous to just sit still for 50 years to see what emerges. Things will not remain what they are today for 50 years, and in my estimation, they will worsen for Israel’s Jews with evey year. The Palwstinian/Israeli confict is not happening in a vacuum; It is happening in the middle of a very volatile ME, almost all of it antagonistic to the Jews.
For their survival as a coherent group, there needs to be movement towards a solution, a continuous effort, even if progress is incremental.at times.

If the one state solution is ever to become viable, the two state solution has to precede it. Enemies have to separate before they can even conceive of unifying.

I think many people envision a solution to this problem somewhere about 50 years into the future in which the Jews and the Palestinians merge and have ONE nation.

When that happens the population needs to be nearly identical so that one race does not become the dominant race. That we dont end up with a Sunni/Shia type mix like we have in Iraq today.

This requires the Jews to fire up the ole birthing ovens and get busy.

Because I am a one state solution type guy. If In America we can live side by side with Blacks and Jews and Hispanics and Asians and American Indians and have a peaceful society then its possible in the ME as well.

If we do not try. If we continue to say “no its too hard” then we will always be assured of failing.

They honestly believe the world will allow this (unlike South Africa) because of the “war on Terror”. Right now there are 500,000 Jews living beyond the Green line(including East Jerusalem). With the orthodox birth rate, and the little known fact that most people making aliya are moving to the West Bank settlements. The plan is by 2012 to have 1,000,000 Jews living beyond the green line, including a major push into the Jordan Valley. The settlers and the politicians who support them figure at that point a viable Palestinian state will be impossible.

Giuliani’s hard line position means that no progress will be made on a peace agreement. Netanyahu as the probable next prime minister will turn Giuliani’s position into reality. Without a viable 2 state solution, eventually the world will force Israel to abandon the Palestinian reservations policy. This will force a one state solution that means the demise of Israel as a Jewish hoimeland. That is something that deep in my soul, I lament.

Chris, all weapons by their nature are used OFFENSIVELY. I don’t know how you use weapons defensively. How does one act in self-defense unless you strike at your attacker. If you ask me, Israel is far too restrained. Nothing is being done to stop the qassams being fired at Sderot.

If they lay down their arms there will be peace. If Israel lays down its arms there will be genocide.

As if anyone here is advocating for Israel to dismantle their military. All I’m saying is that they should stop using their weapons offensively.

Perhaps this is one of the less subtle deliveries in that regard, but the nuance has already been there for months from all of the major R candidates. After all, how does one know that when a R candidate says nothing more specific than “stay in Iraq”, that that is somehow light years different than what you will get out of HRC?

As far as the Palestine state comment, the part that registered most with me is the idea that Giuliani will not be all consumed with intervening/brokering/pushing/shooting bullets for this particular regional struggle……because, as you guys say everyday, the US should not be meddling in other people’s affairs.

There is the great ASSUMPTION that a more relatively isolationist posture is not going to work to our advantage. However, how many decades has it been since we tried it?

Well what they want is the demise of Israel. NOTHING else will suffice. Once Israel is gone they want the demise of the USA.

I for one would encourage the palestinian people to throw off their shackles and seize control of their future. Or not. Their life is in their hand.

If they lay down their arms there will be peace. If Israel lays down its arms there will be genocide.

Rudy Giuliani took a hard turn to the right on foreign policy yesterday in an essay published in Foreign Affairs magazine. As Eli Lake reports for the New York Sun, Giuliani eschewed almost two decades of American efforts towards a……

You sound like an honest enough person, so what do you call a country that buys people off Afghan warlords, ships them to prisons all over the world where they are tortured, and then keeps them imprisoned without trial even when those charged with their interrogations acknowledge most are probably innocent?

I’d turn down the volume on that ‘mightier than thou’ tone if I were you.

‘Not talking’ hasn’t proved to be an effective mechanism to foster reform, has it?

Israel/US has restricted the supply of of food, water, jobs, security, infrastructure while adding in a good supply of weapons to bolster friendly but unpopular regimes (like Fatah, currently). And you have the gall to ask why they are civilized. Amazing.