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		<title>By: Intra-Party Debate, Part II &#183; New York Articles</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/14544/roves-out-check-next/comment-page-1/#comment-97373</link>
		<dc:creator>Intra-Party Debate, Part II &#183; New York Articles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 19:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] habeas corpus to foreign policy, my debate with a fellow Republican continues [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] habeas corpus to foreign policy, my debate with a fellow Republican continues [...]</p>
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		<title>By: C Stanley</title>
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		<dc:creator>C Stanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 12:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pete,
Something along those lines would be good, I think. Let me consider the wording a bit more and I&#039;ll try to e-mail you if I can fine tune it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete,<br />
Something along those lines would be good, I think. Let me consider the wording a bit more and I&#8217;ll try to e-mail you if I can fine tune it.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Abel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete Abel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 22:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christine,

Good point, though I struggle on exactly how to amend the current language.

Would it be acceptable to amend it in minimalist fashion, to wit ... ?
&lt;blockquote&gt;The war on terror need not be (rather than &quot;should not be&quot;) a war on habeas corpus.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Or something more substantive, to wit ... ?
&lt;blockquote&gt;The indefinite war on terror need not be an indefinite war on habeas corpus.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Or something else ...?

Any guidance would be appreciated, as I do wonder how much this passage has caused others to balk at signing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christine,</p>
<p>Good point, though I struggle on exactly how to amend the current language.</p>
<p>Would it be acceptable to amend it in minimalist fashion, to wit &#8230; ?</p>
<blockquote><p>The war on terror need not be (rather than &#8220;should not be&#8221;) a war on habeas corpus.</p></blockquote>
<p>Or something more substantive, to wit &#8230; ?</p>
<blockquote><p>The indefinite war on terror need not be an indefinite war on habeas corpus.</p></blockquote>
<p>Or something else &#8230;?</p>
<p>Any guidance would be appreciated, as I do wonder how much this passage has caused others to balk at signing.</p>
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		<title>By: C Stanley</title>
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		<dc:creator>C Stanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 20:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pete,
I noticed that your response to that commenter was a lot more nuanced than what you wrote in the letter. The letter is black and white, that war should never be a pretense for suspension of habeus corpus. In response to that person&#039;s critique based on Lincoln&#039;s suspension of habeus corpus, you had a more nuanced opinion of that (and you gave a good rebuttal to the argument, in that you don&#039;t think that the current war status is an appropriate pretense because the war is open ended). 

I don&#039;t know where you are in the process of gathering signatures and don&#039;t know if you are interested in casting a wider net- but it seems to me that you might get more people on board with you if you&#039;d change the language in that part of the letter to include shades of gray instead of stark black and white. I know I&#039;d reconsider, maybe that&#039;s just me though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete,<br />
I noticed that your response to that commenter was a lot more nuanced than what you wrote in the letter. The letter is black and white, that war should never be a pretense for suspension of habeus corpus. In response to that person&#8217;s critique based on Lincoln&#8217;s suspension of habeus corpus, you had a more nuanced opinion of that (and you gave a good rebuttal to the argument, in that you don&#8217;t think that the current war status is an appropriate pretense because the war is open ended). </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know where you are in the process of gathering signatures and don&#8217;t know if you are interested in casting a wider net- but it seems to me that you might get more people on board with you if you&#8217;d change the language in that part of the letter to include shades of gray instead of stark black and white. I know I&#8217;d reconsider, maybe that&#8217;s just me though.</p>
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