Comments on: Quarterbacks, Dogs & Racism

By: domajot

domajot — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 10:19:16 +0000

Trying to hide behind claims of racism is doubly disgusting.
First, it’s an obvious attempt to get away wihout punishment for this ugly crime.
Second, and most important, it casts a shadow over all claims of racism, and makdes racism harder to fight. If I were an Afro-American, I would be furious.
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I keep thinking about the spectators. What kind os people think this is entertainment?

By: Lynx

Lynx — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 10:10:29 +0000

When a bullfight was held anyway the audience got to feel what the bull felt.

Now THAT’S a fine idea if I’ve ever seen one.

I’ve always thought that someone who would torture a dog for fun would likely do the same to a child and simply doesn’t (usually) because they know they can’t get away with it.

By: Jim Satterfield

Jim Satterfield — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 07:37:04 +0000

I couldn’t care less what race someone who takes part in this kind of cruelty belongs to. I agree that the level of sadism involved here makes me think that the participants aren’t that far from being willing to treat humans the same way.

It all makes me think fondly of Childhood’s End by Arthur c. Clarke. No cruelty allowed by the new alien overlords. When a bullfight was held anyway the audience got to feel what the bull felt.

By: Pyst

Pyst — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 06:34:17 +0000

Rome is a gasbag, I prefer Mike and Mike, and they slammed Vick bigtime as well.

By: kimrit

kimrit — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 02:34:18 +0000

I have to agree with DLS. Whatever the legal remedy for this is, it is not severe enough to fit the crime of doing this to these dogs. I had the misfortune of watching a video of this on the news and my pessimism about the depths some humans will go to to entertain themselves now knows no bounds. It hit a new low for humanity.

By: DLS

DLS — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 00:36:46 +0000

Electrocution, hanging and bashing their heads into the ground is indicative of a psychopath and someone who needs to be locked up.

Actually (no Peter Singer philosophy intended), what these people deserve is electrocution, hanging, and bashing their heads into the ground. I can think of other fates they deserve, but these would be fitting.

By: DLS

DLS — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 00:34:18 +0000

Electrocution, hanging and bashing their heads into the ground is indicative of a psychopath and someone who needs to be locked up.

Davebo:

Thank you for listening to the Jim Rome show so I didnâ€™t have to!

Gosh that guy annoys the heck out of me more than Hannity.

I’m glad I’m not the only guy who not only finds Hannity strident but who also knows that sports talk is worse. Rome is a model for sports talk: loud and low-class.

Sports talk (if we could ever succeed at forcing them to listen to it) would make other liberals like K. Ritter and farther-left Chris flee to Hannity, Boortz, Beck, or, better, Limbaugh (aging, zzzzz) for behavioral relief and intellectual uplifting.

By: Lynx

Lynx — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 23:16:24 +0000

Bull fights are still legal and popular in Mexico and Spain

Not quite the subject but I feel I must defend my nation. The national shame that is bullfighting is still legal here yes, but it is against the wishes of the majority of the population, that favors it’s prohibition. The very rich who own the business are what keeps it from being touched. More than 70% have never seen and have no intention of seeing a bullfight in their lives and only 11% ever regularly go to such events, despite heavy coverage by the media. 11% is still monstrous, but it’s not exactly soccer.

As to the racism label, there really needs to be a point where you can just say “that’s ridiculous” and simply move on. The fear of the label lends it a power it does not deserve. Nazi or Fascist is a far nastier insult and no one feels the need to spend hours explaining why they aren’t one.

By: cosmoetica

cosmoetica — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 21:24:16 +0000

I’ve been to dogfights, when I was a kid. In my nabe it was mostly poor folk- Hispanics, blacks, and Italians, that ran the rings.

Cockfights, too.

It’s sick and sadistic. Period. There is no sport, anymore than a hunter w a gun vs. a deer is a real sport. But, at least the hunter ends it quick, and uses the animal for meat and leather. There is nothing beneficial from dogs killing each other.

And, yes, dogs are not humans. They are not perverse enough for sadism.

By: kritter

kritter — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 16:20:27 +0000

Cruelty to animals is a felony- and this case represents extreme cruelty. The perpetrators had scheduled ‘events’where they forced the dogs to fight sometimes to the death, and gambled on the results. The’ losers’ were hung, electrocuted or shot. Even the rescued animals had to be destroyed because they were trained by the owners to draw blood for sport.

What could be any crueler or more barbaric than allowing this type of “entertainment? Is it that much different than feeding Christians to the lions in the Colisseum?

By: Quarterbacks, Dogs & Racism · New York Articles

Quarterbacks, Dogs & Racism · New York Articles — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 16:20:04 +0000

[...] I decided to blog about it because I happened to be listening to the Jim Rome show online yesterday. It’s a sports show, so of course the host brought the topic up. Not seconds later, a brother called up and accused Rome of being racist. He said Rome was only bringing this up because Vick was black. If Rome really cared about the cruelty of dog fighting, he would have brought it up before. Yes, I was just thinking myself that I don’t hear nearly enough about dog fighting as I want to. Actually, Rome had brought the topic up a few years ago when it involved another athlete, but this caller wasn’t interested in any facts. (more…) [...]

By: DLS

DLS — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 16:18:37 +0000

1. There is no racism here. Excuse-makers for Vick should stop lying, and at least try to find a better (still-worthless) excuse, such as that other things are worse. 2. "dogs and not humans" [sic; "dogs, not humans"]: Most people here are hardly the extremist types like the worst of ALF or PETA or Peter Singer, but we know what's bad and wrong when we see it. Vick and the other dogfighters should be fed to crocodiles.

By: Quarterbacks, Dogs & Racism · Articles

Quarterbacks, Dogs & Racism · Articles — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 16:06:28 +0000

By: Rudi

Rudi — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:55:59 +0000

If Vick’s involvement involved dog fights and abuse on his property lock him up in prison. It appears the idiot is so arrogant that the fights were on his property, this brings up conspiracy charges even if he wasn’t physically involved. The Latin countries still do bull fighting and cock fighting, so the Vick incident does involve “machismo” factor. Bull fights are still legal and popular in Mexico and Spain, dog fighting is “more bad” because of Fido.

By: Davebo

Davebo — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:46:55 +0000

Ms Winters,

Thank you for listening to the Jim Rome show so I didn’t have to!

Gosh that guy annoys the heck out of me more than Hannity.

By: AustinRoth

AustinRoth — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:33:49 +0000

Actually, much to my surprise, Sharpton has already weighed in on this subject in a letter to the NFL, the Falcons, and sponsors coming out AGAINST Vick.

If you are a high-profile black, and you can’t even get Sharpton on your side in a legal dispute, you’re screwed.

By: Laura

Laura — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:26:16 +0000

The reason this issue has suddenly gained such attention and why the host of the call-in show brought it up, had nothing to do with the fact that Vick is black, but because he is a high profile NFL player.

By: Rambie

Rambie — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:25:42 +0000

“I realize these are dogs and not humans, so I wouldnâ€™t put that person in prison.”

I’m sure Dr EstÃ©s would be able to explain it better, but it’s not too far from doing these things to animals to doing them to other Humans. The racist card is pulled too often. Sometimes it’s true, but in this case.