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Senator Jim Webb Versus Senator Lindsey Graham On Iraq

The setting: NBC’s Meet The Press
The scene: Senators Webb (D) and Graham (R) indulge in what seems more like a talk radio exchange than a typical Meet The Press interview or even a political debate.

When when you watch it — if you’re not someone who watches these events deciding that the person who belongs to your party MUST be right — who comes across as sticking to talking points? Whose words somehow seem familiar with what was said in other forums (like the White House press spokesman press conferences)? And, in the end, who is more convincing?

But perhaps you will have a different reaction when you WATCH THIS.



10 Responses to “Senator Jim Webb Versus Senator Lindsey Graham On Iraq”

  1. George Sorwell says:

    Each accuses the other of playing politics. Each claims he supports the troops more.

    There’s no real debate. They both just talk over each other.

    There’s nothing here to convince any viewers to change their minds.

  2. Robert Stein says:

    My reaction is not moderate: Webb ate him for breakfast or was it brunch?

    http://ajliebling.blogspot.com/2007/07/word-war-webb-kos-graham.html

  3. George Sorwell says:

    I also think Webb did better. Of course I think that–I agree with him. But I’m sure people who agree with Graham will say he did better. The way it played out–neither even having the opportunity to make a point because they were talking over each other–was inconclusive.

    Nobody ate anybody for breakfast. Nobody had the chance to do that.

    I’d like to know what happened to the announcer. Did he fall asleep? He is supposed to keep them from talking over each other so they can make their points.

    Or fail to make them.

  4. stevesturm says:

    funny how people will abandon principles in order to score points. in this case, it’s webb who seems to be suggesting that the military gets to decide where and when they’re ordered into combat. was it that long ago Democrats were telling the military to shut up and just do/go where they’re told? I don’t remember a groundswell of military brass lining up in support of intervention in Kosovo or going into Haiti.

    and Graham is not someone I’m fond of (he’s against torture!), but that was a cheap shot of Webb, throwing out the immigration issue. was that his way of saying because Graham was wrong on that issue, he’s wrong here as well? or because Graham took a beating on immigration, he’s not thinking straight on Iraq? Either way, a cheap shot.

  5. Somebody says:

    This is Madness.

    Having spent 25 years in the military. 3 tours in two wars I find both of these people RIGHT. I find both of these people WRONG.

    The Democrats want to FAIL for political REASONS. The republicans want to succeed for Political REASONS and neither side gives a damn about whats really best for the country.

    Forget talking points. This is Madness coming from both sides.

  6. PWT says:

    It would be a truly pitiful soul that could be convinced by either of these two jack-asses.

  7. Rambie says:

    “Forget talking points. This is Madness coming from both sides.”

    Well said Somebody!

  8. kritter says:

    stevesturm- but your logic works both ways. The GOP was complaining about Clinton’s misuse of the military in Kosovo, and about his lack of an exit strategy, etc. Were they rooting for America’s defeat in that conflict?

  9. Jim Webb’s history of speeches on Iraq can be found at: Jim Webb’s Record of Speeches

    Lindsey Graham’s history of speeches on Iraq can be found at: Lindsey Graham’s Record of Speeches

    For more information on Jim Webb or Lindsey Graham’s position on Iraq please visit Project Vote Smart or call our hotline at 1-888-VOTE-SMART.

  10. stevesturm says:

    kim: yeah, there were republicans who were rooting for Clinton (us) to fail in Kosovo. the stupidity works in both directions.

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