Comments on: Through the Looking Glass With GWB http://themoderatevoice.com/14020/through-the-looking-glass-with-gwb/ An Internet hub with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, indies, centrists, moderates, and right Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:08:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Robert Stein http://themoderatevoice.com/14020/through-the-looking-glass-with-gwb/comment-page-1/#comment-90685 Robert Stein Sat, 14 Jul 2007 00:45:28 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/war/afghanistan/14020/through-the-looking-glass-with-gwb/#comment-90685 Even Peggy Noonan, who wrote the "Read my lips--no new taxes line" is finally fed up with Bush, and it was yesterday's press conference that pushed her over the line, as she wrote in today's Wall Street Journal: http://ajliebling.blogspot.com/2007/07/wiping-away-bushs-grin.html Even Peggy Noonan, who wrote the “Read my lips–no new taxes line” is finally fed up with Bush, and it was yesterday’s press conference that pushed her over the line, as she wrote in today’s Wall Street Journal:

http://ajliebling.blogspot.com/2007/07/wiping-away-bushs-grin.html

]]> By: kritter http://themoderatevoice.com/14020/through-the-looking-glass-with-gwb/comment-page-1/#comment-90648 kritter Fri, 13 Jul 2007 18:53:36 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/war/afghanistan/14020/through-the-looking-glass-with-gwb/#comment-90648 Maybe if Bush had had some success with his Iraq policy, we could say that Congress should stay out of it. That hasn't been the case, causing deep unhappiness with voters, who in turn have pressured their representatives to do something. Isn't that how it's supposed to work? BTW, Bush hasn't consistently listened to the commanders on the ground- he disregarded their advice when it didn't match his policy goals. He disregarded Shinseki when he advised him that more troops would be needed initially, refused to listen to Pentagon sources who warned that the insurgency was growing, and replaced Abizaid and Casey when they expressed their belief (and the opinions of division commanders on the ground in Iraq) that the surge wouldn't help in Iraq. He likewise disregarded the JCS who agreed with Abizaid and Casey. He general-shopped until he found Petraeus, who was willing to give the surge a shot. In any case, our civilian leadership should always make the final decisions in troop strength or other policy options taking into account the recommendations of military leaders.Can you seriously imagine FDR or Truman ceding this authority to Eisenhower or MacArthur? Maybe if Bush had had some success with his Iraq policy, we could say that Congress should stay out of it. That hasn’t been the case, causing deep unhappiness with voters, who in turn have pressured their representatives to do something. Isn’t that how it’s supposed to work?

BTW, Bush hasn’t consistently listened to the commanders on the ground- he disregarded their advice when it didn’t match his policy goals. He disregarded Shinseki when he advised him that more troops would be needed initially, refused to listen to Pentagon sources who warned that the insurgency was growing, and replaced Abizaid and Casey when they expressed their belief (and the opinions of division commanders on the ground in Iraq) that the surge wouldn’t help in Iraq. He likewise disregarded the JCS who agreed with Abizaid and Casey.

He general-shopped until he found Petraeus, who was willing to give the surge a shot.

In any case, our civilian leadership should always make the final decisions in troop strength or other policy options taking into account the recommendations of military leaders.Can you seriously imagine FDR or Truman ceding this authority to Eisenhower or MacArthur?

]]> By: Chris http://themoderatevoice.com/14020/through-the-looking-glass-with-gwb/comment-page-1/#comment-90617 Chris Fri, 13 Jul 2007 13:48:38 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/war/afghanistan/14020/through-the-looking-glass-with-gwb/#comment-90617 Thanks for the point by point Shaun. We need these every time the President lies about Iraq, which is just about any time he opens his mouth these days. Thanks for the point by point Shaun. We need these every time the President lies about Iraq, which is just about any time he opens his mouth these days.

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