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		<title>By: Decades to come &#183; New York Articles</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13970/decades-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-92023</link>
		<dc:creator>Decades to come &#183; New York Articles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 00:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] All the more reason to vote Democratic next year. (more&#8230;) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] All the more reason to vote Democratic next year. (more&#8230;) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Decades to come &#183; Articles</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13970/decades-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-90809</link>
		<dc:creator>Decades to come &#183; Articles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 22:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] All the more reason to vote Democratic next year. (more&#8230;) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] All the more reason to vote Democratic next year. (more&#8230;) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: AustinRoth</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13970/decades-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-90194</link>
		<dc:creator>AustinRoth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 12:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems the thrust of your post is that if something is difficult and will take time, and involve sacrifice, then obviously we should not pursue it, even if it is in our national interests.

If we are going to dwell back in the 60&#039;s mentality, then let&#039;s at least give Spiro his due. He had a lot of flaws, but turned one of the great political phrases of all times talking about the press and punditry - &quot;nattering nabobs of negativism&quot;, along with his lesser remembered &quot;an effete corps of impudent snobs&quot; and &quot;hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history&quot;.

Of course, those words were actually written by William Safire and Patrick Buchanan, of whom the mere mention of their names throws many journalists into apoplectic fits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems the thrust of your post is that if something is difficult and will take time, and involve sacrifice, then obviously we should not pursue it, even if it is in our national interests.</p>
<p>If we are going to dwell back in the 60&#8217;s mentality, then let&#8217;s at least give Spiro his due. He had a lot of flaws, but turned one of the great political phrases of all times talking about the press and punditry &#8211; &#8220;nattering nabobs of negativism&#8221;, along with his lesser remembered &#8220;an effete corps of impudent snobs&#8221; and &#8220;hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history&#8221;.</p>
<p>Of course, those words were actually written by William Safire and Patrick Buchanan, of whom the mere mention of their names throws many journalists into apoplectic fits.</p>
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		<title>By: Decades to come &#183; Kokorec</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13970/decades-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-90179</link>
		<dc:creator>Decades to come &#183; Kokorec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 06:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] All the more reason to vote Democratic next year. (more&#8230;) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] All the more reason to vote Democratic next year. (more&#8230;) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jose seispak</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13970/decades-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-90169</link>
		<dc:creator>jose seispak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 04:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Motto of the Military-Industrial Complex is &quot;It is not whether you win or lose!  It is how you play the game!&quot;
The eventual end of the war will depend,  not on the politics of Republican versus Democrat, but whether the people vote in a sane person or a psychopath as the next President of the U.S.
Johnson, Nixon and &quot;W&quot; all were psychopaths with a dark side!
Eisenhower shut down the Korean War, because he was sane!!! Not insane!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Motto of the Military-Industrial Complex is &#8220;It is not whether you win or lose!  It is how you play the game!&#8221;<br />
The eventual end of the war will depend,  not on the politics of Republican versus Democrat, but whether the people vote in a sane person or a psychopath as the next President of the U.S.<br />
Johnson, Nixon and &#8220;W&#8221; all were psychopaths with a dark side!<br />
Eisenhower shut down the Korean War, because he was sane!!! Not insane!!</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13970/decades-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-90166</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 04:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Petraeus says or does something you dislike: He&#039;s bad.

Petraeus says or does something you like: He&#039;s good.

That was easy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Petraeus says or does something you dislike: He&#8217;s bad.</p>
<p>Petraeus says or does something you like: He&#8217;s good.</p>
<p>That was easy.</p>
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		<title>By: Rambie</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13970/decades-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-90129</link>
		<dc:creator>Rambie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 23:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I would prefer to see a republican president and the senate and house in a veto proof majority democratic, after the next election cycle.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Here here John!  Ron Paul would be my choice out of the current Republican candidates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I would prefer to see a republican president and the senate and house in a veto proof majority democratic, after the next election cycle.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Here here John!  Ron Paul would be my choice out of the current Republican candidates.</p>
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		<title>By: Entropy</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13970/decades-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-90094</link>
		<dc:creator>Entropy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 19:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh vey!  General P. a loyal Bushie?  Please.  Your criticism of Petraeus and the &quot;surge&quot; is way off base and belies a fundamental ignorance of the operation.  Read the &lt;a href=&quot;http://themoderatevoice.com/foreign-policy/13846/the-surge-has-just-begun/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;comments in this TMV&lt;/a&gt; post for more.  Your other criticisms basically blame him for not being insubordinate - do you really want military officers to pick and choose when to follow the constitutionally-mandated chain of command?  If so, then our republic will soon resemble Pakistan&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh vey!  General P. a loyal Bushie?  Please.  Your criticism of Petraeus and the &#8220;surge&#8221; is way off base and belies a fundamental ignorance of the operation.  Read the <a href="http://themoderatevoice.com/foreign-policy/13846/the-surge-has-just-begun/" rel="nofollow">comments in this TMV</a> post for more.  Your other criticisms basically blame him for not being insubordinate &#8211; do you really want military officers to pick and choose when to follow the constitutionally-mandated chain of command?  If so, then our republic will soon resemble Pakistan&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13970/decades-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-90070</link>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 17:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael makes a good point that there is a good chance that any republican elected president 2008 will follow Bush&#039;s plan and continue that losing policy in Iraq. The person occuping the White House when the plug is finally pulled on this Iraqi misadventure will always be called the &quot;the one who lost Iraq&quot;. No republican would want that title. l don&#039;t think I could vote for any of the republicans running now, although I would prefer to see a republican president and the senate and house in a veto proof majority democratic, after the next election cycle. I want a republican in there to be the one who has to clean up the mess that Bush has made of just about everything his presidency has touched. I don&#039;t see possibility of a good outcome in Iraq if we stay. No plan that is going to work will work without a return of a military draft, and that won&#039;t happen. Inspite of good arguements on both sides of why we should stay or leave,  it only makes sense to cut our loses and get out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael makes a good point that there is a good chance that any republican elected president 2008 will follow Bush&#8217;s plan and continue that losing policy in Iraq. The person occuping the White House when the plug is finally pulled on this Iraqi misadventure will always be called the &#8220;the one who lost Iraq&#8221;. No republican would want that title. l don&#8217;t think I could vote for any of the republicans running now, although I would prefer to see a republican president and the senate and house in a veto proof majority democratic, after the next election cycle. I want a republican in there to be the one who has to clean up the mess that Bush has made of just about everything his presidency has touched. I don&#8217;t see possibility of a good outcome in Iraq if we stay. No plan that is going to work will work without a return of a military draft, and that won&#8217;t happen. Inspite of good arguements on both sides of why we should stay or leave,  it only makes sense to cut our loses and get out.</p>
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		<title>By: domajot</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13970/decades-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-90063</link>
		<dc:creator>domajot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 17:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I began to suspect a long time ago that while the rest of the nation is agonizing over when to withdraw and how to withdraw, Bush&#039;s main concern is simply to delay withdrawal of any kind until; after he&#039;s gone.
That way he can preserve his signature motto of having stayed the course. It&#039;s about his legacy, first and foremost.

I know this is a cynical view, and I certainly can&#039;t prove what&#039;s in the man&#039;s mind.  
It&#039;s a gut feeling I can&#039;t shake, however.

It looks now as if Bush might well be successful in kicking the ball to the next president.  He can afford to be serene, while everyone else agonizes about what matters most.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I began to suspect a long time ago that while the rest of the nation is agonizing over when to withdraw and how to withdraw, Bush&#8217;s main concern is simply to delay withdrawal of any kind until; after he&#8217;s gone.<br />
That way he can preserve his signature motto of having stayed the course. It&#8217;s about his legacy, first and foremost.</p>
<p>I know this is a cynical view, and I certainly can&#8217;t prove what&#8217;s in the man&#8217;s mind.<br />
It&#8217;s a gut feeling I can&#8217;t shake, however.</p>
<p>It looks now as if Bush might well be successful in kicking the ball to the next president.  He can afford to be serene, while everyone else agonizes about what matters most.</p>
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