Basically I think [Hillary Clinton is] just a status quo candidate.

Remember that after 1992 she lurched well to the left of where she portrayed herself during the election. If anything, she’s showing herself as even more establishmentarian, “mainstream,” “moderate,” “centrist” this time. (Kind of an up-to-the-moment “Third Way” DLC-DNC stage act — with criticism of Bush added.) I’m certain she’ll lunge leftward again after she is elected. I believe what she does may depend on what she wants to achieve, as legacy items (or achievements to use for her re-election in 2012). But I’m certain she’ll move to the left again after election. So you may yet be satisfied.

Ironically, when it comes to what she may attempt, one thing, health care, would probably work out better for her if she chose something more radical than her earlier fascistic HMO “alliance” federal takeover attempt (which critics on the left hated for being business-based, though the federal government was in control and they didn’t seem to want to use the correct term “fascistic” to describe a Democratic plan). The more radical, more leftist federal Medicare for All agenda actually is simpler and probably appeals to many more Americans!

*** NOTE: Readers, see side note below. ***

I’m hoping that people are fed up enough with that kind of politician they might take a chance this election.

I’m not a lefty, but I can tell you that my very lefty friend in DC has really gotten down on Hillary Clinton, mainly due to her pro-war position. (Don’t know about how my friend’s view of Hillary’s business-community campaign contributions, suspect it is negative.)

I’m unsure what liberals and Democrats can do, because they’re much less likely to vote GOP than non-liberals are to consider a Democrat.

… [I]f she does get the nod for president I think taking on Obama as VP really secures him as president in the next cycle and that would be a smart move for the party.

Or in 2016. I always thought Clinton-Obama would be the ultimate combination in 2008 for the Democrats (try not to gloat after the degree by which you win), but given Obama’s continued fund-raising success I have to think more about it and I wonder if Hillary Clinton would accept sharing the limelight, and would Obama accept being suppressed for not only four but eight years?

** NOTE **

For those readers who don’t know, fascism keeps much business nominally private but is far from corporate ownership of the nation that critics claim. In fact, private property rights are compromised and what matters, not ownership but control, lies with government. The “corporatist state” has nothing to do with corporations and everything to do with the nation as an organic whole (a body, or “corpus,” the source of the term) and all individuals and individual decisions, and their property and their use, are subordinated to the State (the nation, the body, the organism).

So what you see, of course, is bureaucracy.

Take the following, from a book snuck out of Nazi Germany — look at the “Graphic on Autos” page and consider this to be an example under either a) HillaryCare post 1992; b) Republican government health care (if you prefer the common attack on the GOP with the Nazi term).

What’s ordered? 5,000 units of type X (certain kinds of physicians, certain kinds of hospital beds). Weeks later and many steps later, what do you get? 1,000 units of type X and 4,000 of type Y.

Increasing the number of units in Nazi Germany

However, I hold the democrats in only slightly less contempt than I hope the GOP, and most of that stems from them not having been in power this decade so their opportunities to screw things up has been limited. I also think Hillary is the likely candidate but I still hold out hope for what I see as a change. And if she does get the nod for presdident I think taking on Obama as VP really secures him as president in the next cycle and that would be a smart move for the party. Which is precisely why I think the dems won’t do it.

I hear the twilight zone music playing.

Armitage went to the Special Prosecutor and told him that he was the leak. The Prosecutor seeing his cushy multimillion dollar book go down the drain refused to listen and instead embarked upon a witch hunt which netted Libby.

And the Fricking Democrats still don’t have the leaker in jail. They wanted Cheney or Rove. Armitage is not worth their time. This in and of itself proves that the Democrats were on a witch hunt. The man that admitted to the crime and can prove he did it is not even being talked about, considered or up for possible prosecution.

They wanted Cheney and are content with Cheney’s go to guy.