“What is needed to solve [insert typical leftist social “problem” of note] is a totally fundamental paradigm shift in the policy/procedure mix…” [accompanied by stupid, swirling hand gesturing]

Hey, at least I didn’t do the stupid hand motion! LOL
Funny how I set off this whole debate within a debate without even realizing what I was doing.

Bush was a failed businessman and mediocre governor.

Clinton was a mediocre governor.

Bush 1 never held elected office till he was VP- ergo, he had no experience.

Reagan was a failure as Calif governor.

Carter was a failure as Georgia governor.

Ford was a careerist congressman.

Nixon hardly had a stellar career in Congress and was VP.

LBJ had loads of Congressional experience, and was a House legend.

JFK was a mediocre congressman and Senator. Ike had no experience.

Truman was a mediocre small-time political hack.

FDR was a good governor.

Hoover was a fantastic career bureaucrat but horrid as an executive.

Extrapolations on qualifications to be President go against logic and history, DLS.

Bloomberg — exploits being Mayor of New York with a crime problem by filing junk lawsuits against out-of-state gun dealers, exposing them to more junk lawsuits

New York and the office of mayor is hardly something to be proud of, nor qualification for the Presidency. Mr. “No Experience” Obama just got elevated.

MVDG- paradigm shift started out in science, but was quickly co-opted by the Left Wing Academic PoMo crowd.

The most common use of the phrase “paradigm shift” has been in the business community, one of its favorite junk-jargon fad phrases, as well as of those smiley-faced consultants who are brought in to advise business and its employees on how to do or be better.

Lefties in academia and the media have been joined by lefties in government in [ab]use of this phrase (as well as misuse of the slash character in place of the hyphen or a conjunction, as we see everywhere, but especially in academia and on the Web: “What is needed to solve [insert typical leftist social "problem" of note] is a totally fundamental paradigm shift in the policy/procedure mix…” [accompanied by stupid, swirling hand gesturing]

It had nothing to do w CS’s definitional use of the term, but its, by now, immanent politicization, and from a different end of the spectrum.

Chris: Yes, w/o 9/11 Rudy wd have never been able to legitimately seek higher office. 9/11 was a boon to his career, as it was for W.

He was a despised mayor who turned his fortunes around with some photo-ops. There is little about his present politics that I don’t find detestable.

I got off on a tangent with a response to a comment though, so I should make it clear that Rudy’s statements about Clinton don’t sit well with me. I don’t really disagree that much but there’s a difference between saying “In hindsight I think more could have been done” and saying it the way he did which is shifting blame onto Clinton. And I agree somewhat with the commenters who’ve noted that Rudy didn’t do enough to prepare NY for the attack; after the first WTC attack it should have been clear that they needed better planning.

Unless, that is, you believe that science is ‘lefty.’

I have to defend Clinton here.

Or more precisely, to criticize Giuliani, who is just milking the stupid “mayor of New York during 9-11″ nonsense with a cheap shot against Clinton (and by association, the leading Democratic contender for the Presidency next year).

Clinton had the right idea when we pulled out of Somalia, as far as what he would have had our military do “if they [the terrorists] fuck[ed] with us” during the evacuation.

It’s odd to see you, CS, a Righty, use such a Lefty term as ‘paradigm shift,’ but, OBL has no ‘army. He has ‘crime families’, called ‘cells’. Again, he is far more like John Gotti than Ike.

Hmm, I didn’t realize that there was a copyright restriction on a term, cosmo.

As to the ‘crime families’, if they had state support then we’d need to shift to war footing to fight them as well.

Austin: Thanks, and likewise (I responded to the other thread where you mentioned the balance of my perspective as well, and I have the same reaction when I read your comments).

He also did nothing to ensure that police and firefighters could communicate with each other resulting in a lot of unnecessary chaos. Other criticism surrounds the fact that first responders were not required to wear respirators at Ground Zero during the cleanup. That may be OSHA’s fault primarily, but as mayor he shares some of the blame.

If Giuliani was in charge he would follow the Bush model of handling the situation – invade several countries (incompetently), coddle the countries actively hiding OBL (like Pakistan) and allow the perpetrator of 9/11 to build a stronger and more international movement while remaining at large after almost 6 years.

What an idiot.

Joe and Kritter have guessed Pander Plan Part 2, which will be to spin his pre nomination crazy speak as simply bouying up the base and not to be taken seriously. The MSM will in all likelihood join him in this fiction, but, please God, a majority of Americans will continue to see him for what he is:: Bush, The Sequel.

It’s odd to see you, CS, a Righty, use such a Lefty term as ‘paradigm shift,’ but, OBL has no ‘army. He has ‘crime families’, called ‘cells’. Again, he is far more like John Gotti than Ike.

Austin: While there is credence to arguing about individual events, and there not having relevance decades later, the CIA Family Jewels prove that the USA has acted in a very terroristic fashion for decades. This is neither Left nor Right, but an MO that we established, and which we have to deal with.

Also, since Giuliani is digging up the past, I wonder when an R or D will finally talk about he and his law firm’s support for Apartheid era S Africa in the 80s. This almost derailed Rudy as DA, much less Prez.

He’s not really a centrist as a Country Clubber with street cred.