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	<title>Comments on: Major Bosshardt: Example of Tolerance, Love and Compassion, Dies</title>
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		<title>By: domajot</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13711/major-bosshardt-example-of-tolerance-love-and-compassion-dies/comment-page-1/#comment-87638</link>
		<dc:creator>domajot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 01:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now I regret commenting about the  SA-US style on a post about a particular person in the Netherlands

These are two separate topics that should have remained separate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now I regret commenting about the  SA-US style on a post about a particular person in the Netherlands</p>
<p>These are two separate topics that should have remained separate.</p>
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		<title>By: domajot</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13711/major-bosshardt-example-of-tolerance-love-and-compassion-dies/comment-page-1/#comment-87633</link>
		<dc:creator>domajot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 01:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It isn&#039;t just hiring practices that are at issue.  The SA are  militant, according to many reports I&#039;ve read, about sniffing out gay volunteers when doing relief work related to natural disasters.

They do good work, but their priotites seem highly questionable to many.  Better to forgo providing food that to have food served by a homosexual?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It isn&#8217;t just hiring practices that are at issue.  The SA are  militant, according to many reports I&#8217;ve read, about sniffing out gay volunteers when doing relief work related to natural disasters.</p>
<p>They do good work, but their priotites seem highly questionable to many.  Better to forgo providing food that to have food served by a homosexual?</p>
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		<title>By: C Stanley</title>
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		<dc:creator>C Stanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 14:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael,
From several of the comments here, I think you&#039;ll see that quite a few people take issue with the Salvation Army here. It would be interesting to find out more about them in the Netherlands since the group seems to be held in higher esteem there.

They have been involved in lawsuits concerning anti-discrimination laws here, and they are one of the many church groups that are in the difficult situation of providing social services while also trying to fulfill their religious mission. That&#039;s where most of the negative responses are coming from; the concern that groups like this receive govt funding but practice discrimination in hiring. In addition, many Americans only know the SA as the &quot;kettle people&quot; who solicit funds at shopping malls during the holidays. Some of those folks can be a bit aggressive and I think sometimes people resent them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,<br />
From several of the comments here, I think you&#8217;ll see that quite a few people take issue with the Salvation Army here. It would be interesting to find out more about them in the Netherlands since the group seems to be held in higher esteem there.</p>
<p>They have been involved in lawsuits concerning anti-discrimination laws here, and they are one of the many church groups that are in the difficult situation of providing social services while also trying to fulfill their religious mission. That&#8217;s where most of the negative responses are coming from; the concern that groups like this receive govt funding but practice discrimination in hiring. In addition, many Americans only know the SA as the &#8220;kettle people&#8221; who solicit funds at shopping malls during the holidays. Some of those folks can be a bit aggressive and I think sometimes people resent them.</p>
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		<title>By: George Sorwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Sorwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 02:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Condolences.

May she rest in peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Condolences.</p>
<p>May she rest in peace.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 01:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The War Prayer by Mark Twain, 1904, link is here:
http://thewarprayer.com/war_film.html

(Sorry the above link doesn&#039;t seem to work...)
Jeff P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The War Prayer by Mark Twain, 1904, link is here:<br />
<a href="http://thewarprayer.com/war_film.html" rel="nofollow">http://thewarprayer.com/war_film.html</a></p>
<p>(Sorry the above link doesn&#8217;t seem to work&#8230;)<br />
Jeff P</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 01:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael, no disrespect intended from my way but I, too understand that the characterization of the organization as an &quot;army&quot; has it&#039;s implied imperative, as Holly suggests.  I have, alas, thrown many coins into the kettle, but would find it more difficult in our times, with our political climate such as it is, and with my recent loss of faith and de-commissioned belief in a supreme, loving being.  

Additionally, as we hear of the decision of our Supreme Court to allow taxpayer&#039;s dollars to support faith-based initiatives without dispute, those kettles might not need as much contribution from the porches of the grocery stores but will be instead taken as another part of my paycheck that I don&#039;t spend myself.

That said, there are many religious organizations that do much good, and wonderful people within them that dedicate themselves to charity, hope for the oppressed, and service to the needy, the way I assume Bosshardt did.  It&#039;s a vision of Jesus&#039; message that&#039;s well-described by contemporary theologians like Marcus Borg, and I like and respect that vision.

I ran upon an interesting post given to me by a friend, a 1904 writing by Mark Twain, that has something to say regarding a slightly different version of &quot;army&quot; blessed by the Lord.

The video is here:  http://thewarprayer.com/war_film.html/

It&#039;s very thought-provoking and I hope &quot;moderate&quot; and applicable for us all to ponder.

Respectfully,
Jeff P.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael, no disrespect intended from my way but I, too understand that the characterization of the organization as an &#8220;army&#8221; has it&#8217;s implied imperative, as Holly suggests.  I have, alas, thrown many coins into the kettle, but would find it more difficult in our times, with our political climate such as it is, and with my recent loss of faith and de-commissioned belief in a supreme, loving being.  </p>
<p>Additionally, as we hear of the decision of our Supreme Court to allow taxpayer&#8217;s dollars to support faith-based initiatives without dispute, those kettles might not need as much contribution from the porches of the grocery stores but will be instead taken as another part of my paycheck that I don&#8217;t spend myself.</p>
<p>That said, there are many religious organizations that do much good, and wonderful people within them that dedicate themselves to charity, hope for the oppressed, and service to the needy, the way I assume Bosshardt did.  It&#8217;s a vision of Jesus&#8217; message that&#8217;s well-described by contemporary theologians like Marcus Borg, and I like and respect that vision.</p>
<p>I ran upon an interesting post given to me by a friend, a 1904 writing by Mark Twain, that has something to say regarding a slightly different version of &#8220;army&#8221; blessed by the Lord.</p>
<p>The video is here:  <a href="http://thewarprayer.com/war_film.html/" rel="nofollow">http://thewarprayer.com/war_film.html/</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s very thought-provoking and I hope &#8220;moderate&#8221; and applicable for us all to ponder.</p>
<p>Respectfully,<br />
Jeff P.</p>
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		<title>By: Holly in Cincinnati</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holly in Cincinnati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 01:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Salvation Army causes harm in the USA with proselytizing and anti-gay behavior. I never throw money in their kettles.

My first experience with SA was in 1973 when an SA officer came to my synagogue&#039;s religious school to explain how they would &quot;bring the continent to Christ.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Salvation Army causes harm in the USA with proselytizing and anti-gay behavior. I never throw money in their kettles.</p>
<p>My first experience with SA was in 1973 when an SA officer came to my synagogue&#8217;s religious school to explain how they would &#8220;bring the continent to Christ.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Lynx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 19:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, in my personal opinion, it&#039;s not God, but good people doing the loving and accepting. Still, if the end result is helping and comforting others, you can do it in the name of ANYTHING really.

Holly, I too would like to know why a positive experience with the SA is news. I&#039;ve never heard anything bad about them, though I suppose they must have issues, just like all large NGOs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, in my personal opinion, it&#8217;s not God, but good people doing the loving and accepting. Still, if the end result is helping and comforting others, you can do it in the name of ANYTHING really.</p>
<p>Holly, I too would like to know why a positive experience with the SA is news. I&#8217;ve never heard anything bad about them, though I suppose they must have issues, just like all large NGOs.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael van der Galien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael van der Galien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 18:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What why? It&#039;s quite popular here...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What why? It&#8217;s quite popular here&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Holly in Cincinnati</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holly in Cincinnati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 18:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s encouraging to see that someone has had a positive experience with the Salvation Army.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s encouraging to see that someone has had a positive experience with the Salvation Army.</p>
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