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		<title>By: The Implications Of A Michael Bloomberg Independent Run &#183; New York Articles</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13597/big-news-from-bloomberg/comment-page-1/#comment-87639</link>
		<dc:creator>The Implications Of A Michael Bloomberg Independent Run &#183; New York Articles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 01:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] And be sure to re-read Jeremy Dibbell&#8217;s excellent earlier post on the issue HERE. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Implications Of A Michael Bloomberg Independent Run &#183; Articles</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13597/big-news-from-bloomberg/comment-page-1/#comment-87348</link>
		<dc:creator>The Implications Of A Michael Bloomberg Independent Run &#183; Articles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 15:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] And be sure to re-read Jeremy Dibbell&#8217;s excellent earlier post on the issue HERE. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: kritter</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13597/big-news-from-bloomberg/comment-page-1/#comment-86720</link>
		<dc:creator>kritter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 02:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s what I think, too, Jason, since he was truly a RINO, and was the last Nelson Rockefeller (liberal) Republican. In a three-way race between Bloomberg, Clinton and Thompson (Fred not Tommy), you could see Clinton and Bloomberg split the liberal and centrist vote, while Thompson wins by getting the traditional Republican and Conservative voters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s what I think, too, Jason, since he was truly a RINO, and was the last Nelson Rockefeller (liberal) Republican. In a three-way race between Bloomberg, Clinton and Thompson (Fred not Tommy), you could see Clinton and Bloomberg split the liberal and centrist vote, while Thompson wins by getting the traditional Republican and Conservative voters.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Steck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Steck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 01:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bloomberg probably only hurts the Republicans IF Guiliani is the nominee.  Otherwise, he may do the the Democratic nominee what Perot did to George H.W. Bush in 1992.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bloomberg probably only hurts the Republicans IF Guiliani is the nominee.  Otherwise, he may do the the Democratic nominee what Perot did to George H.W. Bush in 1992.</p>
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		<title>By: kritter</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13597/big-news-from-bloomberg/comment-page-1/#comment-86713</link>
		<dc:creator>kritter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 01:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DLS- How is he overhyped?  He has proven he is competetent and smart. He came from a humble beginning and is a self-made billionaire- unlike the elitist who inherited wealth that sits in the WH now. 

Many who support him are convinced that the ideological clash of the two major partieshas become so intense that it keeps them from working together to solve this country&#039;s problems. 

While I am skeptical of third-party candidates in general because they usually cannot win but can help the majority candidate lose by splitting support, I tend to agree with the main concept.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DLS- How is he overhyped?  He has proven he is competetent and smart. He came from a humble beginning and is a self-made billionaire- unlike the elitist who inherited wealth that sits in the WH now. </p>
<p>Many who support him are convinced that the ideological clash of the two major partieshas become so intense that it keeps them from working together to solve this country&#8217;s problems. </p>
<p>While I am skeptical of third-party candidates in general because they usually cannot win but can help the majority candidate lose by splitting support, I tend to agree with the main concept.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 23:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Iâ€™d guess DLS is yawning him off as just another one in the pile because he becomes an instant threat to peel off alot of the independants leaning GOP. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

As your mistaken comment is much more intelligent than Satterfield&#039;s, I&#039;ll answer yours.  I&#039;m yawning him off because he is as over-hyped as Giuliani, among other things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Iâ€™d guess DLS is yawning him off as just another one in the pile because he becomes an instant threat to peel off alot of the independants leaning GOP. </p></blockquote>
<p>As your mistaken comment is much more intelligent than Satterfield&#8217;s, I&#8217;ll answer yours.  I&#8217;m yawning him off because he is as over-hyped as Giuliani, among other things.</p>
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		<title>By: kritter</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13597/big-news-from-bloomberg/comment-page-1/#comment-86642</link>
		<dc:creator>kritter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 18:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Casual- To me he seems like a centrist- but that may be because I&#039;m more liberal than you are.  I also see the Clintons as centrists, but many conservatives see them as liberals. Just like some conservatives see Bush as liberal- but to Democrats he is anything but.

 I did say Bloomberg  would pull from the Democrats and Independents more than the GOP- so I think it would help the Republican. No Conservatives would vote for him- which helps the GOP.

I wish we had the type of system where third party candidates enabled a majority candidate to win, but we don&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Casual- To me he seems like a centrist- but that may be because I&#8217;m more liberal than you are.  I also see the Clintons as centrists, but many conservatives see them as liberals. Just like some conservatives see Bush as liberal- but to Democrats he is anything but.</p>
<p> I did say Bloomberg  would pull from the Democrats and Independents more than the GOP- so I think it would help the Republican. No Conservatives would vote for him- which helps the GOP.</p>
<p>I wish we had the type of system where third party candidates enabled a majority candidate to win, but we don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: The Implications Of A Michael Bloomberg Independent Run &#183; Kokorec</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Implications Of A Michael Bloomberg Independent Run &#183; Kokorec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: casualobserver</title>
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		<dc:creator>casualobserver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 15:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course Bloomberg would pull from Giuliani, but that and $1.50 gets you a cup of coffee 18 months out.

kritter, you may be understating his liberal bent. Mayors are paid to make a city government function, not showcase their ideology. If RINO&#039;s are Republicans in name only, then Bloomberg is a RINO is name only.

Third party candidates really need an issue not covered off in the 2 party match-up. If &quot;gridlock&quot; goes front and center over the next year......maybe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course Bloomberg would pull from Giuliani, but that and $1.50 gets you a cup of coffee 18 months out.</p>
<p>kritter, you may be understating his liberal bent. Mayors are paid to make a city government function, not showcase their ideology. If RINO&#8217;s are Republicans in name only, then Bloomberg is a RINO is name only.</p>
<p>Third party candidates really need an issue not covered off in the 2 party match-up. If &#8220;gridlock&#8221; goes front and center over the next year&#8230;&#8230;maybe.</p>
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		<title>By: kritter</title>
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		<dc:creator>kritter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SD- Clinton has as much to fear as the GOP nominee from Bloomberg- he&#039;s another centrist from NY who could run on  a record of competence, not ideology. Sen.  Clinton is still regarded as a polarizing figure in her party, which means she wouldn&#039;t get a lot of crossover votes, but would galvanize Republicans to vote against her. 

Also, don&#039;t forget that Bloomberg was a  RINO, who only changed his affiliation from Democrat to Republican to win the primary for NYC&#039;s mayoral race. His millions did the rest and he&#039;s won twice.

I would think independents and moderates from both parties would be attracted to him. That would leave the hard-core base for the Democratic and Republican candidates. If 33% of the voters consider themselves conservatives, and 22% consider themselves liberals, it would elect the Republican.

 All bets would be off if Obama won the Democratic nomination, however, since he is even attracting some Republicans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SD- Clinton has as much to fear as the GOP nominee from Bloomberg- he&#8217;s another centrist from NY who could run on  a record of competence, not ideology. Sen.  Clinton is still regarded as a polarizing figure in her party, which means she wouldn&#8217;t get a lot of crossover votes, but would galvanize Republicans to vote against her. </p>
<p>Also, don&#8217;t forget that Bloomberg was a  RINO, who only changed his affiliation from Democrat to Republican to win the primary for NYC&#8217;s mayoral race. His millions did the rest and he&#8217;s won twice.</p>
<p>I would think independents and moderates from both parties would be attracted to him. That would leave the hard-core base for the Democratic and Republican candidates. If 33% of the voters consider themselves conservatives, and 22% consider themselves liberals, it would elect the Republican.</p>
<p> All bets would be off if Obama won the Democratic nomination, however, since he is even attracting some Republicans.</p>
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		<title>By: carpeicthus</title>
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		<dc:creator>carpeicthus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It might make things hard for Giuliani if he&#039;s not even the best mayor of NYC in the race.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It might make things hard for Giuliani if he&#8217;s not even the best mayor of NYC in the race.</p>
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		<title>By: The Implications Of A Michael Bloomberg Independent Run &#187; The Moderate Voice</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13597/big-news-from-bloomberg/comment-page-1/#comment-86570</link>
		<dc:creator>The Implications Of A Michael Bloomberg Independent Run &#187; The Moderate Voice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 12:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] And be sure to re-read Jeremy Dibbell&#8217;s excellent earlier post on the issue HERE. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: superdestroyer</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13597/big-news-from-bloomberg/comment-page-1/#comment-86568</link>
		<dc:creator>superdestroyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 12:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if Senator Clinton has promised a cabinet seat or an ambassadorship to Bloomberg in order to get him to run and split the Republican vote two ways. 

If Bloomberg runs, the Republicans will probably get less than 10% of the vote in New England and could possibly lose automatic ballot access (depending on state laws). 

When an independent candidate is running, one should always look for the hidden adventure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if Senator Clinton has promised a cabinet seat or an ambassadorship to Bloomberg in order to get him to run and split the Republican vote two ways. </p>
<p>If Bloomberg runs, the Republicans will probably get less than 10% of the vote in New England and could possibly lose automatic ballot access (depending on state laws). </p>
<p>When an independent candidate is running, one should always look for the hidden adventure.</p>
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		<title>By: cosmoetica</title>
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		<dc:creator>cosmoetica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 12:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it&#039;s Hillary and Rudy I&#039;d give Bloomy a serious look, esp. if Nader or some Green is not saying good things. However, Colin Powell- after having W&#039;s hand up his ass at the UN presentation of WMDs, has no luster left.

A mod Dem, with a lower profile (Bloomy&#039;s ego needs catering to) is the ticket. Boren&#039;s a good fit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it&#8217;s Hillary and Rudy I&#8217;d give Bloomy a serious look, esp. if Nader or some Green is not saying good things. However, Colin Powell- after having W&#8217;s hand up his ass at the UN presentation of WMDs, has no luster left.</p>
<p>A mod Dem, with a lower profile (Bloomy&#8217;s ego needs catering to) is the ticket. Boren&#8217;s a good fit.</p>
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		<title>By: aisle</title>
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		<dc:creator>aisle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 07:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know he&#039;s sworn off elected office, but Colin Powell as Bloomberg&#039;s running mate would give any such independent ticket some serious potential.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know he&#8217;s sworn off elected office, but Colin Powell as Bloomberg&#8217;s running mate would give any such independent ticket some serious potential.</p>
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		<title>By: Bloomberg - Schwarzenegger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bloomberg - Schwarzenegger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 06:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (NYT); Crooks and Liars; The Reaction; MyDD; All Spin Zone; Dr. Rachel Maddow (Air America Blog); The Moderate Voice; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jim Satterfield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Satterfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 06:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I&#039;m not going to jump onto some kind of Bloomberg bandwagon I would definitely listen to what he has to say. DLS just yawns him off because DLS is one of the ideologues that has contributed to the current mess. He has his worldview and no facts will ever change it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I&#8217;m not going to jump onto some kind of Bloomberg bandwagon I would definitely listen to what he has to say. DLS just yawns him off because DLS is one of the ideologues that has contributed to the current mess. He has his worldview and no facts will ever change it.</p>
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		<title>By: Pyst</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pyst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 05:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*claps* If anything Bloomberg took a swipe at the ignorant media hacks that have asked the &quot;questions&quot; in the debates so far. If you can call those debates at all is a good question.

I&#039;d like to hear his ideas in depth, and if he&#039;s going to run we will very soon I&#039;d expect.

Considering the pile of uselessness the current crop is Bloomberg might be what the country needs.

I&#039;d guess DLS is yawning him off as just another one in the pile because he becomes an instant threat to peel off alot of the independants leaning GOP. Don&#039;t yawn off someone untill you hear what ideas they have, and anyone that takes a swipe at the media for the lack of performance in asking questions deserves atleast a small consession. Because we sure could do without questions about haircuts and over the top 24 &quot;what if&#039;s&quot; parading as thoughful debate questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*claps* If anything Bloomberg took a swipe at the ignorant media hacks that have asked the &#8220;questions&#8221; in the debates so far. If you can call those debates at all is a good question.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to hear his ideas in depth, and if he&#8217;s going to run we will very soon I&#8217;d expect.</p>
<p>Considering the pile of uselessness the current crop is Bloomberg might be what the country needs.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d guess DLS is yawning him off as just another one in the pile because he becomes an instant threat to peel off alot of the independants leaning GOP. Don&#8217;t yawn off someone untill you hear what ideas they have, and anyone that takes a swipe at the media for the lack of performance in asking questions deserves atleast a small consession. Because we sure could do without questions about haircuts and over the top 24 &#8220;what if&#8217;s&#8221; parading as thoughful debate questions.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 02:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>K. Ritter:

I like Bloomberg

He says &quot;my plans for the future haven&#039;t changed&quot; and so if he runs later, he&#039;s simply another rotten apple in the pile like the rest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>K. Ritter:</p>
<p>I like Bloomberg</p>
<p>He says &#8220;my plans for the future haven&#8217;t changed&#8221; and so if he runs later, he&#8217;s simply another rotten apple in the pile like the rest.</p>
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		<title>By: kritter</title>
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		<dc:creator>kritter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 02:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like Bloomberg, and think his talents are needed in uberpartisan Washington, but hope he decides not to run, because of our dismal history with third party candidates.  Perhaps if they passed a law that any candidate who received less than 50% would have to endure a runoff between the top two vote-getters. Unfortunately, third party candidates often act as spoilers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like Bloomberg, and think his talents are needed in uberpartisan Washington, but hope he decides not to run, because of our dismal history with third party candidates.  Perhaps if they passed a law that any candidate who received less than 50% would have to endure a runoff between the top two vote-getters. Unfortunately, third party candidates often act as spoilers.</p>
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