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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13354/pace-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-84905</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 00:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well said Kim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well said Kim</p>
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		<title>By: superdestroyer</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13354/pace-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-84901</link>
		<dc:creator>superdestroyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 23:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this will be the first Navy man in 18 years since Admiral Crowe.  The conventional wisdow has always been that the navy is the worst at joint operations and the least cooperative with the other services.  It comes from the cultures of the services.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this will be the first Navy man in 18 years since Admiral Crowe.  The conventional wisdow has always been that the navy is the worst at joint operations and the least cooperative with the other services.  It comes from the cultures of the services.</p>
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		<title>By: kimrit</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13354/pace-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-84889</link>
		<dc:creator>kimrit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 22:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well they are making changes right and left- maybe to forestall criticism from Congress that they&#039;re not holding anyone accountable for the mixed success of the surge.  Gates seems to pull no punches and doesn&#039;t mind getting rid of people at the top, which I admire. Maybe if he&#039;d been Sec Def all along we wouldn&#039;t be in such a mess.

 But for anything to really change, you&#039;d have to get rid of the people who are really responsible for all of the bad decision-making- Bush and Cheney.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well they are making changes right and left- maybe to forestall criticism from Congress that they&#8217;re not holding anyone accountable for the mixed success of the surge.  Gates seems to pull no punches and doesn&#8217;t mind getting rid of people at the top, which I admire. Maybe if he&#8217;d been Sec Def all along we wouldn&#8217;t be in such a mess.</p>
<p> But for anything to really change, you&#8217;d have to get rid of the people who are really responsible for all of the bad decision-making- Bush and Cheney.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Stein</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13354/pace-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-84880</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Stein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 21:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://ajliebling.blogspot.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://ajliebling.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Robert Stein</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13354/pace-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-84879</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Stein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 21:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>May be something more going on: a behind-my-back change by Bush who never admits mistakes. Yesterday we learned that 
Stephen Hadley, father of the Surge, was out of the loop on Iraq:&lt;a href=&quot;http://ajliebling.blogspot.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May be something more going on: a behind-my-back change by Bush who never admits mistakes. Yesterday we learned that<br />
Stephen Hadley, father of the Surge, was out of the loop on Iraq:<a href="http://ajliebling.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow"></a></p>
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		<title>By: casualobserver</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13354/pace-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-84870</link>
		<dc:creator>casualobserver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 20:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I haven&#039;t heard you guys label Gates as a neocon, Nazifascist tool of Big Oil, so maybe its political calculation or maybe there&#039;s some more credible reason to it. I&#039;ll let the deep military guys sort it out.

Regardless, though, this Administration is now so overspent on credibility, it&#039;s otherwise likely to be received by the uninitiated as just doing something with those deck chairs.

p.s. thanks for adding the preview feature</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I haven&#8217;t heard you guys label Gates as a neocon, Nazifascist tool of Big Oil, so maybe its political calculation or maybe there&#8217;s some more credible reason to it. I&#8217;ll let the deep military guys sort it out.</p>
<p>Regardless, though, this Administration is now so overspent on credibility, it&#8217;s otherwise likely to be received by the uninitiated as just doing something with those deck chairs.</p>
<p>p.s. thanks for adding the preview feature</p>
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		<title>By: wjr</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13354/pace-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-84869</link>
		<dc:creator>wjr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 20:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;t will be interesting to see how having a navy guy in charge, instead of an army guy, will influence everything.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

People said the same thing when ADM Fallon was nominated to CENTCOM.  It won&#039;t make a difference.

Also, I hope Gen Pace doesn&#039;t read this post.  He&#039;d be most upset to know you called him a soldier instead of a marine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>t will be interesting to see how having a navy guy in charge, instead of an army guy, will influence everything.</p></blockquote>
<p>People said the same thing when ADM Fallon was nominated to CENTCOM.  It won&#8217;t make a difference.</p>
<p>Also, I hope Gen Pace doesn&#8217;t read this post.  He&#8217;d be most upset to know you called him a soldier instead of a marine.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13354/pace-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-84864</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 20:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I believe that homosexual acts between individuals are immoral and that we should not condone immoral acts. I do not believe that the armed forces of the United States are well served by saying through our policies that it&#039;s OK to be immoral in any way.&quot; - Pace

Bye bye bigot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I believe that homosexual acts between individuals are immoral and that we should not condone immoral acts. I do not believe that the armed forces of the United States are well served by saying through our policies that it&#8217;s OK to be immoral in any way.&#8221; &#8211; Pace</p>
<p>Bye bye bigot.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun Mullen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun Mullen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 19:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gates is equivocating.  Pace was a shoo-in for a second term but the defense secretary said himself that Mullen was chosen so Pace wouldn&#039;t have to face hostile questioning about the war before Congress at reconfirmation hearings.

Yes, things have gotten that bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gates is equivocating.  Pace was a shoo-in for a second term but the defense secretary said himself that Mullen was chosen so Pace wouldn&#8217;t have to face hostile questioning about the war before Congress at reconfirmation hearings.</p>
<p>Yes, things have gotten that bad.</p>
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