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		<title>By: kalmquist</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13348/john-edwards-terror-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-84928</link>
		<dc:creator>kalmquist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 07:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>beaux510 - I don&#039;t quite follow your point about reforming Islam.  The Qur&#039;an prohibits killing noncombatants in war, so Muslims don&#039;t need to accept modern ideas in order to reject terrorism.  All they have to do is to follow the dictates of the Qur&#039;an.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>beaux510 &#8211; I don&#8217;t quite follow your point about reforming Islam.  The Qur&#8217;an prohibits killing noncombatants in war, so Muslims don&#8217;t need to accept modern ideas in order to reject terrorism.  All they have to do is to follow the dictates of the Qur&#8217;an.</p>
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		<title>By: jdledell</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13348/john-edwards-terror-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-84903</link>
		<dc:creator>jdledell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 23:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>beaux510  - I think you are vastly overestimating the number of Jihadists and fundemental muslims in the world. I know many muslims in Lebanon, Turkey, Indonesia and India. I used to be in charge of International operations for a very large financial company. I did business with these people, made friends and had numerous discussions with them on world affairs. A very high percentage of muslims do not take the Koran literally, just as with most Christians and Jews. 

I still think working with moderate muslims (probably 90+% of the total) is a far better solution than primarily using a military approach. You may be right that it might take a generation or two to put a lid on Islamic terrorism but playing &quot;wack a mole&quot; with our military will NEVER solve the problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>beaux510  &#8211; I think you are vastly overestimating the number of Jihadists and fundemental muslims in the world. I know many muslims in Lebanon, Turkey, Indonesia and India. I used to be in charge of International operations for a very large financial company. I did business with these people, made friends and had numerous discussions with them on world affairs. A very high percentage of muslims do not take the Koran literally, just as with most Christians and Jews. </p>
<p>I still think working with moderate muslims (probably 90+% of the total) is a far better solution than primarily using a military approach. You may be right that it might take a generation or two to put a lid on Islamic terrorism but playing &#8220;wack a mole&#8221; with our military will NEVER solve the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: beaux510</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13348/john-edwards-terror-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-84875</link>
		<dc:creator>beaux510</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 20:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that the only people who can stem the tide of Islamic terrorism are the Muslims themselves, but it&#039;s unrealistic to think that any impact on the situation will be felt in our lifetime.  In order for that to happen, Islam itself must be reformed by the moderates to reflect a more modern outlook, and that will never happen with any efficacy.  Changing one word of the Quran and Hadith is not allowed.  If a very brave group of moderates manages to undertake that effort, they will be labeled by the orthodox as blasphemers and apostates, which if you don&#039;t know you should, brings with it a death sentence.  This is a circular battle, we will never be completely free of it. 

Edwards plan, as with any western plan put forth so far, ascribes a western mentality to a people who couldn&#039;t be further from it.  The two paradigms don&#039;t mix.

For some problems there are no good solutions, we can only  try to limit the damage in our own land.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that the only people who can stem the tide of Islamic terrorism are the Muslims themselves, but it&#8217;s unrealistic to think that any impact on the situation will be felt in our lifetime.  In order for that to happen, Islam itself must be reformed by the moderates to reflect a more modern outlook, and that will never happen with any efficacy.  Changing one word of the Quran and Hadith is not allowed.  If a very brave group of moderates manages to undertake that effort, they will be labeled by the orthodox as blasphemers and apostates, which if you don&#8217;t know you should, brings with it a death sentence.  This is a circular battle, we will never be completely free of it. </p>
<p>Edwards plan, as with any western plan put forth so far, ascribes a western mentality to a people who couldn&#8217;t be further from it.  The two paradigms don&#8217;t mix.</p>
<p>For some problems there are no good solutions, we can only  try to limit the damage in our own land.</p>
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		<title>By: G. Weightman</title>
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		<dc:creator>G. Weightman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 20:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So under President Edwards weâ€™ll be importing many more illiterate peasants â€” along with the occasional terrorist cell â€” and exporting idealists who&#039;ll serve as easy pickings for hostage-taking  jihadis in States That Hate The Great Satan â„¢.  Sounds like a plan to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So under President Edwards weâ€™ll be importing many more illiterate peasants â€” along with the occasional terrorist cell â€” and exporting idealists who&#8217;ll serve as easy pickings for hostage-taking  jihadis in States That Hate The Great Satan â„¢.  Sounds like a plan to me.</p>
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		<title>By: jdledell</title>
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		<dc:creator>jdledell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 16:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert - I interpreted Edwards as NOT &quot;hug a terrorist&quot; but to hug the people with whom the terrorist lives and operates. Ultimately, success aaginst terrorists worldwide is going to be dependent on muslims themselves taking on the terrorists and defeating them. We cannot do it alone and it will be important to give support to these &quot;moderate&quot; muslims in the form of economic and political support. 

If we can convince the majority of muslims in the world that they would be better off helping eradicate terrorists, the problem will be far better handled than the clumsy US military can do. For example I have some Christian Lebanese friends who are supportive of Hezballah. The only reason they are is their fear of the Israelis/US is far greater than their fear of Hezballah who they know will at least defend Lebanon. 

Until the US can convince Lebanese Christians that we are the &quot;good guys&quot; they, and other Lebanese, will not defang Hezballah. You can take this same scenerio to other Muslim countries. We have NOT shown muslims we care about their needs and interests, only our own or Israel. We need to show in as many tangible ways as possibile our friendship and help are not just words. So far we have done a very poor job of it. Our motto of do what we want or we&#039;ll kill you isn&#039;t cutting the mustard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert &#8211; I interpreted Edwards as NOT &#8220;hug a terrorist&#8221; but to hug the people with whom the terrorist lives and operates. Ultimately, success aaginst terrorists worldwide is going to be dependent on muslims themselves taking on the terrorists and defeating them. We cannot do it alone and it will be important to give support to these &#8220;moderate&#8221; muslims in the form of economic and political support. </p>
<p>If we can convince the majority of muslims in the world that they would be better off helping eradicate terrorists, the problem will be far better handled than the clumsy US military can do. For example I have some Christian Lebanese friends who are supportive of Hezballah. The only reason they are is their fear of the Israelis/US is far greater than their fear of Hezballah who they know will at least defend Lebanon. </p>
<p>Until the US can convince Lebanese Christians that we are the &#8220;good guys&#8221; they, and other Lebanese, will not defang Hezballah. You can take this same scenerio to other Muslim countries. We have NOT shown muslims we care about their needs and interests, only our own or Israel. We need to show in as many tangible ways as possibile our friendship and help are not just words. So far we have done a very poor job of it. Our motto of do what we want or we&#8217;ll kill you isn&#8217;t cutting the mustard.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 16:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah yes... helping people in the Middle East has no hope of helping stem the tide of terrorism.

Let&#039;s keep killing them instead.  That&#039;s worked really well so far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah yes&#8230; helping people in the Middle East has no hope of helping stem the tide of terrorism.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s keep killing them instead.  That&#8217;s worked really well so far.</p>
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