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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13340/the-end-is-near-but-not-near-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-84895</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 22:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;No more Bushes, No more Clintons!!!! In a country of 300 million, can you possibly tell me that only two mega millionaire politicians exist?
Please. Let the Bush clan move to Saudi Arabia so they can be closer to their money, and the Clintons can have tea with Martha. No mas!&quot;

Amen brother.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;No more Bushes, No more Clintons!!!! In a country of 300 million, can you possibly tell me that only two mega millionaire politicians exist?<br />
Please. Let the Bush clan move to Saudi Arabia so they can be closer to their money, and the Clintons can have tea with Martha. No mas!&#8221;</p>
<p>Amen brother.</p>
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		<title>By: hanginjohnny</title>
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		<dc:creator>hanginjohnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 17:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No more Bushes, No more Clintons!!!! In a country of 300 million, can you possibly tell me that only two mega millionaire politicians exist?
Please. Let the Bush clan move to Saudi Arabia so they can be closer to their money, and the Clintons can have tea with Martha. No mas!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No more Bushes, No more Clintons!!!! In a country of 300 million, can you possibly tell me that only two mega millionaire politicians exist?<br />
Please. Let the Bush clan move to Saudi Arabia so they can be closer to their money, and the Clintons can have tea with Martha. No mas!</p>
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		<title>By: kimrit</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13340/the-end-is-near-but-not-near-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-84831</link>
		<dc:creator>kimrit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 16:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shaun -after 8 years of Hillary,  the memory of George Bush&#039;s awful presidency will have faded in the minds of Americans, whose minds rotted after watching nonstop coverage of Paris Hilton and Lindsay Lohan on cable news, to the point that the GOP will feel comfortable in nominating favorite son Jeb Bush for the 2016 race! LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shaun -after 8 years of Hillary,  the memory of George Bush&#8217;s awful presidency will have faded in the minds of Americans, whose minds rotted after watching nonstop coverage of Paris Hilton and Lindsay Lohan on cable news, to the point that the GOP will feel comfortable in nominating favorite son Jeb Bush for the 2016 race! LOL</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13340/the-end-is-near-but-not-near-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-84821</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 16:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Isnâ€™t it possible that they expected Dick Cheney to handle foreign policy&quot;

-- and domestic policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Isnâ€™t it possible that they expected Dick Cheney to handle foreign policy&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8211; and domestic policy.</p>
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		<title>By: casualobserver</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13340/the-end-is-near-but-not-near-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-84819</link>
		<dc:creator>casualobserver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 16:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys are going to miss him......truly, aren&#039;t you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys are going to miss him&#8230;&#8230;truly, aren&#8217;t you?</p>
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		<title>By: George Sorwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Sorwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 15:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude, I totally understand we&#039;re stuck with W because that&#039;s how the system works. 

That&#039;s why I&#039;m pleading for some competent Illuminati to come along and think outside the analogy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude, I totally understand we&#8217;re stuck with W because that&#8217;s how the system works. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I&#8217;m pleading for some competent Illuminati to come along and think outside the analogy.</p>
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		<title>By: Rudi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 15:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave&#039;s anology is OK, but the problem is were stuck with W. When Billy Ford couldn&#039;t handle the job, the family and the rest of the stockholders fired him. Billy knew he was in over his head, W won&#039;t admit the same failure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave&#8217;s anology is OK, but the problem is were stuck with W. When Billy Ford couldn&#8217;t handle the job, the family and the rest of the stockholders fired him. Billy knew he was in over his head, W won&#8217;t admit the same failure.</p>
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		<title>By: George Sorwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Sorwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 14:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But on the dynasty thingie, wasn&#039;t Dave point that the Illuminati (call them what you will) rule no matter who gets elected. 

If that&#039;s the case, won&#039;t they still be running things no matter which figurehead wins the election?

Then why even bother hatin&#039; Hillary? Why even bother caring at all? 

If you already know better, can&#039;t you start knowing better? 

(PS  Maybe events after the 2000 election were unpredictable, but haven&#039;t the events since the 2004 election been all-too-predictably bad for rent-seekers? Can&#039;t we get some competent Illuminati?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But on the dynasty thingie, wasn&#8217;t Dave point that the Illuminati (call them what you will) rule no matter who gets elected. </p>
<p>If that&#8217;s the case, won&#8217;t they still be running things no matter which figurehead wins the election?</p>
<p>Then why even bother hatin&#8217; Hillary? Why even bother caring at all? </p>
<p>If you already know better, can&#8217;t you start knowing better? </p>
<p>(PS  Maybe events after the 2000 election were unpredictable, but haven&#8217;t the events since the 2004 election been all-too-predictably bad for rent-seekers? Can&#8217;t we get some competent Illuminati?)</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun Mullen</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13340/the-end-is-near-but-not-near-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-84799</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun Mullen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 14:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kimrit:

As Dave alluded, this was never about the best man for the job and the only expectation was reaping the dividends of a wired presidency.

While we&#039;re on the dynasty thingie, I believe that a goodly number of people will automatically disqualify Hillary because they, like me, are very uncomfortable with the possibility that but two familes could rule America for 24 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kimrit:</p>
<p>As Dave alluded, this was never about the best man for the job and the only expectation was reaping the dividends of a wired presidency.</p>
<p>While we&#8217;re on the dynasty thingie, I believe that a goodly number of people will automatically disqualify Hillary because they, like me, are very uncomfortable with the possibility that but two familes could rule America for 24 years.</p>
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		<title>By: kimrit</title>
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		<dc:creator>kimrit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 13:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t it possible that they expected Dick Cheney to handle foreign policy in conjunction with the neocons they put in at Defense and in the VP&#039;s office? In acuality he&#039;s had a free hand, although his policies have confusingly conflicted with Sec State Rice, so that the result is incoherence and administrative infighting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t it possible that they expected Dick Cheney to handle foreign policy in conjunction with the neocons they put in at Defense and in the VP&#8217;s office? In acuality he&#8217;s had a free hand, although his policies have confusingly conflicted with Sec State Rice, so that the result is incoherence and administrative infighting.</p>
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		<title>By: George Sorwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Sorwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 13:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fnord</description>
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		<title>By: Shaun Mullen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun Mullen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 13:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, as hubris goes, this might just take the cake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, as hubris goes, this might just take the cake.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Schuler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Schuler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 13:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m suggesting that they thought that history was over.  They knew GWB as a decent, pleasant in person guy who probably wouldn&#039;t get in the way of the management team he brought in with him too much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m suggesting that they thought that history was over.  They knew GWB as a decent, pleasant in person guy who probably wouldn&#8217;t get in the way of the management team he brought in with him too much.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun Mullen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun Mullen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 12:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave:

Your perspective on how we got ourselves into our current mess -- we gotta find something for the young man to do to keep him out of trouble and us in stock dividends -- is more or less accurate, but you surely are not suggesting that the propellants were so naive or crass about the state of the world (the growing Islamofascist threat, the coming immigration crisis, the growing disparity between rich and poor Americans, the precarious state of the Israel-Palestinian relationship, North Korea, Iran, etc., etc.) that they thought they could elevate a minor league player to the big leagues?

Or is that exactly what you are suggesting? Elaborate, please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave:</p>
<p>Your perspective on how we got ourselves into our current mess &#8212; we gotta find something for the young man to do to keep him out of trouble and us in stock dividends &#8212; is more or less accurate, but you surely are not suggesting that the propellants were so naive or crass about the state of the world (the growing Islamofascist threat, the coming immigration crisis, the growing disparity between rich and poor Americans, the precarious state of the Israel-Palestinian relationship, North Korea, Iran, etc., etc.) that they thought they could elevate a minor league player to the big leagues?</p>
<p>Or is that exactly what you are suggesting? Elaborate, please.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Schuler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Schuler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 12:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s an explanation for GWB that may or may not have occurred to you, Shaun.  It&#039;s the way I looked at things back in 2000, when Bush secured the nomination.

There quite a few large, publicly-held companies in which a lots of the stock is held by family members of the founders of the companies and the families are, essentially, dependent on their stock dividends for their highly prosperous livelihoods.

If the earning sof these companies take a downturn, that&#039;s bad for the family and, when that happens,  the family uses its votes to put a family member in the CEO slot whose sole commission is to get the dividends on which the family depends up again.  Two examples in which this has happened recently are Ford Motor Company and Anheuser-Busch.

That&#039;s essentially what propelled George W. Busch into the presidency.  The U. S. has a small but influential upper class  that&#039;s highly dependent on rent-seeking for its livelihood.  They wanted a family member to ensure their position was maintained.  GWB got tapped.

In 2000 nobody, least of all GWB or those who propelled him into the presidency, expected that in 2001 we&#039;d be in a shootin&#039; war.  And, all protestations from the Tranzi wing of the Democratic Party notwithstanding, by the end of 2001 we&#039;d have been in a shootin&#039; war and we&#039;d still be in one now regardless of who was president.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s an explanation for GWB that may or may not have occurred to you, Shaun.  It&#8217;s the way I looked at things back in 2000, when Bush secured the nomination.</p>
<p>There quite a few large, publicly-held companies in which a lots of the stock is held by family members of the founders of the companies and the families are, essentially, dependent on their stock dividends for their highly prosperous livelihoods.</p>
<p>If the earning sof these companies take a downturn, that&#8217;s bad for the family and, when that happens,  the family uses its votes to put a family member in the CEO slot whose sole commission is to get the dividends on which the family depends up again.  Two examples in which this has happened recently are Ford Motor Company and Anheuser-Busch.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s essentially what propelled George W. Busch into the presidency.  The U. S. has a small but influential upper class  that&#8217;s highly dependent on rent-seeking for its livelihood.  They wanted a family member to ensure their position was maintained.  GWB got tapped.</p>
<p>In 2000 nobody, least of all GWB or those who propelled him into the presidency, expected that in 2001 we&#8217;d be in a shootin&#8217; war.  And, all protestations from the Tranzi wing of the Democratic Party notwithstanding, by the end of 2001 we&#8217;d have been in a shootin&#8217; war and we&#8217;d still be in one now regardless of who was president.</p>
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		<title>By: kimrit</title>
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		<dc:creator>kimrit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 11:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2001-2009- The longest eight years in history, LOL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2001-2009- The longest eight years in history, LOL!</p>
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