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		<title>By: All about Resources &#187; Differences over Cuba overshadow Rice&#8217;s Spain visit</title>
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		<dc:creator>All about Resources &#187; Differences over Cuba overshadow Rice&#8217;s Spain visit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 00:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] GOP Falling Apart?The Moderate Voice - The Republican National Committee, hit by a grass-roots donors rebellion over President Bush s immigration policy, has fired all 65 of its telephone solicitors, Ralph Z. Hallow will report Friday in The Washington Times. Faced with an estimated [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] GOP Falling Apart?The Moderate Voice &#8211; The Republican National Committee, hit by a grass-roots donors rebellion over President Bush s immigration policy, has fired all 65 of its telephone solicitors, Ralph Z. Hallow will report Friday in The Washington Times. Faced with an estimated [...]</p>
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		<title>By: news info and resources &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A QUARTERLY REPORT FROM BUSH-CHENEY MEDIA ENTERPRISES</title>
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		<dc:creator>news info and resources &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A QUARTERLY REPORT FROM BUSH-CHENEY MEDIA ENTERPRISES</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 16:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] GOP Falling Apart?The Moderate Voice - The Republican National Committee, hit by a grass-roots donors rebellion over President Bush s immigration policy, has fired all 65 of its telephone solicitors, Ralph Z. Hallow will report Friday in The Washington Times. Faced with an estimated [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] GOP Falling Apart?The Moderate Voice &#8211; The Republican National Committee, hit by a grass-roots donors rebellion over President Bush s immigration policy, has fired all 65 of its telephone solicitors, Ralph Z. Hallow will report Friday in The Washington Times. Faced with an estimated [...]</p>
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		<title>By: All about Resources &#187; Car hurtles into crowded festival</title>
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		<dc:creator>All about Resources &#187; Car hurtles into crowded festival</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2007 15:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] GOP Falling Apart?The Moderate Voice - The Republican National Committee, hit by a grass-roots donors rebellion over President Bush s immigration policy, has fired all 65 of its telephone solicitors, Ralph Z. Hallow will report Friday in The Washington Times. Faced with an estimated [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] GOP Falling Apart?The Moderate Voice &#8211; The Republican National Committee, hit by a grass-roots donors rebellion over President Bush s immigration policy, has fired all 65 of its telephone solicitors, Ralph Z. Hallow will report Friday in The Washington Times. Faced with an estimated [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13177/gop-falling-apart/comment-page-1/#comment-83509</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 20:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are you talking about?  I&#039;m not morally opposed to lining up with big businesses like some Chomsky.  Gov&#039;t and business are supposed to work together for the general good, and this I think is a definite case of that.   Immigrant labor has always been the backbone of this country and it deserves a fair shake despite what some more narrowminded, and generally 2nd or 3rd generation immigrants, think. 

This is also about the disconnect between the big money folks that run the Republican party and the hordes of poor folks that vote republican despite the fact poor people tend to be generally screwed by the right.   Its about time this got highlighted, too bad it has to be on immigration instead of something more like education cuts so the oil industry can get an $8 billion dollar tax break.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are you talking about?  I&#8217;m not morally opposed to lining up with big businesses like some Chomsky.  Gov&#8217;t and business are supposed to work together for the general good, and this I think is a definite case of that.   Immigrant labor has always been the backbone of this country and it deserves a fair shake despite what some more narrowminded, and generally 2nd or 3rd generation immigrants, think. </p>
<p>This is also about the disconnect between the big money folks that run the Republican party and the hordes of poor folks that vote republican despite the fact poor people tend to be generally screwed by the right.   Its about time this got highlighted, too bad it has to be on immigration instead of something more like education cuts so the oil industry can get an $8 billion dollar tax break.</p>
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		<title>By: casualobserver</title>
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		<dc:creator>casualobserver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 20:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I think its a good time for the left to start getting support from these big companies using all this cheap labor since they seem to have some common ground for a change.&quot;

Gee, how quickly virtue is foresaked for political gain.

Easy there, Rove, oops, I mean, Sam, you don&#039;t exactly have anything passed yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I think its a good time for the left to start getting support from these big companies using all this cheap labor since they seem to have some common ground for a change.&#8221;</p>
<p>Gee, how quickly virtue is foresaked for political gain.</p>
<p>Easy there, Rove, oops, I mean, Sam, you don&#8217;t exactly have anything passed yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 19:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;News flash! Nothing can hurt Bush anymore!

Heâ€™s not running, he doesnâ€™t give a sh#t what his supporters or his opponents think and he never has.&quot;

Exactly.  Whatever happens Bush knows he&#039;s still running the show since the Dems don&#039;t have enough to overturn a veto.  They send him proposals, he vetoes, then its back in their court.  They have two options at that point:

a) Cave and pass something Bush approves of and look like pussies or
b) Don&#039;t cave and face further vetoes.  Then they look like obstructionist pussies.

This whole immigration thing must be a real rough thing for your average FOX news regular.  On the one hand they have immigrants, the one minority group they are allowed to openly revile.  On the other you have big business who is supposedly on your side yet seems to LOVE illegals for the tremendous cheap labor they bring to the table.  Whats a black and white world conservative to do? 

I think its a good time for the left to start getting support from these big companies using all this cheap labor since they seem to have some common ground for a change.  It would leave sheer away a lot of big money from the ultra conservatives towards moderate politicians.   Companies win, moderates and left win, immigrants win, immigrant haters lose.   Sounds like a plan to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;News flash! Nothing can hurt Bush anymore!</p>
<p>Heâ€™s not running, he doesnâ€™t give a sh#t what his supporters or his opponents think and he never has.&#8221;</p>
<p>Exactly.  Whatever happens Bush knows he&#8217;s still running the show since the Dems don&#8217;t have enough to overturn a veto.  They send him proposals, he vetoes, then its back in their court.  They have two options at that point:</p>
<p>a) Cave and pass something Bush approves of and look like pussies or<br />
b) Don&#8217;t cave and face further vetoes.  Then they look like obstructionist pussies.</p>
<p>This whole immigration thing must be a real rough thing for your average FOX news regular.  On the one hand they have immigrants, the one minority group they are allowed to openly revile.  On the other you have big business who is supposedly on your side yet seems to LOVE illegals for the tremendous cheap labor they bring to the table.  Whats a black and white world conservative to do? </p>
<p>I think its a good time for the left to start getting support from these big companies using all this cheap labor since they seem to have some common ground for a change.  It would leave sheer away a lot of big money from the ultra conservatives towards moderate politicians.   Companies win, moderates and left win, immigrants win, immigrant haters lose.   Sounds like a plan to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Must Preserve White Power Structure!!!! &#124; Prose Before Hos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Must Preserve White Power Structure!!!! &#124; Prose Before Hos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 18:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] couple of rich white guys talking about how they&#8217;re being undermined as rich white guys! McCain and O&#8217;Reilly, white power [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] couple of rich white guys talking about how they&#8217;re being undermined as rich white guys! McCain and O&#8217;Reilly, white power [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13177/gop-falling-apart/comment-page-1/#comment-83476</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 17:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kritter,
Definitely frightening if true. I wonder how many Presidential candidates are thinking the same thing with their eyes on Iran.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kritter,<br />
Definitely frightening if true. I wonder how many Presidential candidates are thinking the same thing with their eyes on Iran.</p>
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		<title>By: kritter</title>
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		<dc:creator>kritter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 17:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well , Chris, W did announce to a former biographer during the 2000 campaign(ditched because he didn&#039;t make Bush look &quot;presidential&quot; enough,lol) that he was going to be a wartime president, because that would give him more political capital. (or so claimed by said biographer)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well , Chris, W did announce to a former biographer during the 2000 campaign(ditched because he didn&#8217;t make Bush look &#8220;presidential&#8221; enough,lol) that he was going to be a wartime president, because that would give him more political capital. (or so claimed by said biographer)</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13177/gop-falling-apart/comment-page-1/#comment-83460</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 17:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kritter,
Was that some time in 1999?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kritter,<br />
Was that some time in 1999?</p>
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		<title>By: kritter</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13177/gop-falling-apart/comment-page-1/#comment-83458</link>
		<dc:creator>kritter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 17:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last night on Olbermann, it was reported that Chimpy was observed thumping his chest  and claiming &quot;I am the President&quot; three times. And he&#039;s fiddling while the divided America he has fostered burns.

Noonan is a little late in her column- all of those other issues which have been eating at her should have pushed her to write it as soon as it became apparent that the CIC was  a power-hungry, divisive, incompetent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last night on Olbermann, it was reported that Chimpy was observed thumping his chest  and claiming &#8220;I am the President&#8221; three times. And he&#8217;s fiddling while the divided America he has fostered burns.</p>
<p>Noonan is a little late in her column- all of those other issues which have been eating at her should have pushed her to write it as soon as it became apparent that the CIC was  a power-hungry, divisive, incompetent.</p>
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		<title>By: Davebo</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13177/gop-falling-apart/comment-page-1/#comment-83456</link>
		<dc:creator>Davebo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 17:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;This entire immigration debate will hurt Bush more than I initially anticipated. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

News flash!    Nothing can hurt Bush anymore!

He&#039;s not running, he doesn&#039;t give a sh#t what his supporters or his opponents think and he never has.

He&#039;s the decider dangit!    Pretty scary stuff eh?   Almost makes you wish Dick was still in charge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>This entire immigration debate will hurt Bush more than I initially anticipated. </p></blockquote>
<p>News flash!    Nothing can hurt Bush anymore!</p>
<p>He&#8217;s not running, he doesn&#8217;t give a sh#t what his supporters or his opponents think and he never has.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s the decider dangit!    Pretty scary stuff eh?   Almost makes you wish Dick was still in charge.</p>
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		<title>By: Ashen Shard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ashen Shard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 15:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if all the Republicans do split with Bush, no matter how far and fast they run, I do not think they will be able to hide from their connection and their support of his disastrous policies.  The Republican presidential candidates for example, all they have to do is say something that is remotely similar to a position Bush took, and the Democrats will be able to effectively label them as a Bush Republican.  Of course, they wouldn&#039;t be far from the truth since most of the Republican candidates, even if they are trying to make themselves seem unconnected to the Bush debacle, they are trying to use his positions and tactics because they still think that is their golden ticket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if all the Republicans do split with Bush, no matter how far and fast they run, I do not think they will be able to hide from their connection and their support of his disastrous policies.  The Republican presidential candidates for example, all they have to do is say something that is remotely similar to a position Bush took, and the Democrats will be able to effectively label them as a Bush Republican.  Of course, they wouldn&#8217;t be far from the truth since most of the Republican candidates, even if they are trying to make themselves seem unconnected to the Bush debacle, they are trying to use his positions and tactics because they still think that is their golden ticket.</p>
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		<title>By: George Sorwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Sorwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 15:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;/A&gt; 

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<p>Sorry! Hope that closes the HTML tag!</p>
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		<title>By: George Sorwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Sorwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 15:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peggy Noonan used to be a great supporter of President Bush. That&#039;s putting it mildly.  Right after the 2004, she wrote a column &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/?id=110005844&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;savoring&lt;/A&gt; his victory and, at the end, praising Hannity and Limbaugh. 

In January 2005, she &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/?id=110006120&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; advised the Democrats&lt;/A&gt; to become more like Republicans if they wanted to win elections. 

In March 2003, she &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/?id=110003239&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; wrote a lyrical column&lt;/A&gt; about how the American victory in Iraq would mean &quot;a triumph of activism over fatalism&quot;. 

In September of 2005, she defended the President &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/?id=110007258&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; in the aftermath of Katrina&lt;/A&gt;: &quot;Is the Bush Era over? No, no, no. It has three more years. That&#039;s a long time. History turns on a dime. There is much ahead, and potential for progress.&quot;

You can look at her &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/archive/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;archive If you&#039;d like. She did seem to grow unhappy with the President as the 2006 election approached. 

I guess it&#039;s news that even Peggy Noonan think President Bush has squandered all his opportunities. But while he was doing the actual squandering, she was in support of him and what he was doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peggy Noonan used to be a great supporter of President Bush. That&#8217;s putting it mildly.  Right after the 2004, she wrote a column <a HREF="http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/?id=110005844" rel="nofollow">savoring</a> his victory and, at the end, praising Hannity and Limbaugh. </p>
<p>In January 2005, she <a HREF="http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/?id=110006120" rel="nofollow"> advised the Democrats</a> to become more like Republicans if they wanted to win elections. </p>
<p>In March 2003, she <a HREF="http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/?id=110003239" rel="nofollow"> wrote a lyrical column</a> about how the American victory in Iraq would mean &#8220;a triumph of activism over fatalism&#8221;. </p>
<p>In September of 2005, she defended the President <a HREF="http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/?id=110007258" rel="nofollow"> in the aftermath of Katrina</a>: &#8220;Is the Bush Era over? No, no, no. It has three more years. That&#8217;s a long time. History turns on a dime. There is much ahead, and potential for progress.&#8221;</p>
<p>You can look at her <a HREF="http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/archive/" rel="nofollow">archive If you&#8217;d like. She did seem to grow unhappy with the President as the 2006 election approached. </p>
<p>I guess it&#8217;s news that even Peggy Noonan think President Bush has squandered all his opportunities. But while he was doing the actual squandering, she was in support of him and what he was doing.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 14:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good riddance to the Republican coalition.  Maybe this means that their dream of a fascist theocracy in America are over?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good riddance to the Republican coalition.  Maybe this means that their dream of a fascist theocracy in America are over?</p>
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