Cheap season agricultural labor is very economically advantageous; cheap citizens – Mexicans who do not return when their contract is over is very disadvantageous.

Example: the socially and economically deplorable conditions in all of the border towns in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and California – a fast spreading cultural rot throughout these states.

With each deportation these states will look, smell, and sound less like Mexico.

Ron Paul, as president would permanent solve this chronic problem, by total deportation and immigration law reforms.

Contrary to the belief of the powerful Mexican Lobby, not every American can be bought, to betray his country.

I can only hope that at some point a similar call goes out to the Dems and then we can get some real statesmen back in DC and start living up to the reputation past generations have earned for us.

I disagree with her notion that breaking from Bush will be difficult. It isn’t. Conservatives are tied to their views, not to any politician. And certainly not to one who treats them with derision and to insults better saved for an enemy. What wil…

k,

I said I would, today, agree to ratify your idignation. However, extending this to apologies and TMV group hugs, I’m not THAT beaten down yet…lol!

I have no earthly idea of why you are hijacking this thread onto torture, but basically he said “befriending” has shown more productive results……unless the person was trained to resist (in that case, you just shoot ‘em in the head and move on.)

Which of these would you prefer?

Selection
 
Votes
The final two years of the Clinton Administration
 62%

The final two years of the G. W. Bush Administration
 38%

That the conservative base gave him a pass and continued to defend the indefensible makes them culpable as well, for the damage he has wrought. Noonan is a little late in coming to the table.

I am assuming BushII is doing this mostly, if not fully, for his business constituency…….but the polling already confirms it comes at the cost of his individuals constituency.

I concede you need to gloat, but insulting our intelligence will only gives us motivation to regroup faster.

The left would be wiser to recognize when things would be better (for them) left alone.

I think the amount of rubber-stamping from the GOP under Bush 43 has been unprecedented- maybe it comes from an uber-partisan identification brought on by Ronald Reagan’s 11th amendment, which forbade criticizing someone from one’s own party. In any case, it has proven disasterous for the country at large. As frustrating as its been to see the Democrats’ disunity over the war, at least they didn’t vote in lockstep out of party loyalty alone.

The idea that there were more than a tiny handful of conservatives who thought “the war was wrong” is absurd on its face, but Noonan’s claim that conservatives objected to “expanding governmental authority and power” is so false that it does not belong in any newspaper, not even on The Wall St. Journal Editorial Page. What rank revisionism that is.

To the extent that the “conservative base” has split with the President at all on the question of “expanding governmental authority and power,” it has been on the ground that they think he has not expanded such power and authority enough. They crave more.

The “conservative base” in the last GOP presidential debate reserved their cheers for Mitt Romeny’s moronic call to “double Guantanamo,” and for Tom Tancredo’s yearning for Jack Bauer. The more enthusiastically a candidate defended torture and lawless detentions, the louder the cheers were. The “conservative base” favors torture, and arbitrary detention powers, and oversight-less surveillance — even beyond what the Bush administration has embraced.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2007/06/01/al_qaeda/index.html

But you failed to grasp a key point of Noonan’s article as to why the “defense” lasted as long as it did.

I accept you are entitled to your day of “indignation justified”. Have at it.

I will be waiting to see, however, how well the Dems “eschew party for country”.

Rudi, if you must insist on propagating partisan slander, at least get your criminal charges correct. If there is a motivation at work other than “existing laws and logical enforcement”, then it is would be much more believable to charge economic and cultural driven classicism than racism.