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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13155/todays-catch-22/comment-page-1/#comment-83636</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2007 07:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>domajot,
I never made any point about their personalities. I was just comparing their actions.  And statistically speaking, Bush has done far greater harm to far greater number of people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>domajot,<br />
I never made any point about their personalities. I was just comparing their actions.  And statistically speaking, Bush has done far greater harm to far greater number of people.</p>
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		<title>By: domajot</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13155/todays-catch-22/comment-page-1/#comment-83420</link>
		<dc:creator>domajot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 15:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris-

I think you lose sight of the larger picture.  No matter how bad Bush is, he is still restrained by the civil society behind him.  Ahmedijan is willing to imprison and/or kill large numbers of his own people, who are largely powerless, in order to achieve an increasingly more restrictive rule over them.
Just recently he proposed more restrictions on women.

I see your point about their personalities, but you have to keep it in the context of the societies they represent.  

At the end of the day, I would still rather see Bush controlling atomic war capabilities than Ahmedijane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris-</p>
<p>I think you lose sight of the larger picture.  No matter how bad Bush is, he is still restrained by the civil society behind him.  Ahmedijan is willing to imprison and/or kill large numbers of his own people, who are largely powerless, in order to achieve an increasingly more restrictive rule over them.<br />
Just recently he proposed more restrictions on women.</p>
<p>I see your point about their personalities, but you have to keep it in the context of the societies they represent.  </p>
<p>At the end of the day, I would still rather see Bush controlling atomic war capabilities than Ahmedijane.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13155/todays-catch-22/comment-page-1/#comment-83367</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 00:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>domajot,
When did I ever say that Iran was a great place that I wanted to live in?

I was strictly comparing Ahmedenijad to Bush.  Not the United States to Iran.  Not which government I&#039;d rather live under.

Saying that Stalin was ultimately a worse monster than Hitler doesn&#039;t mean I embrace Hitler does it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>domajot,<br />
When did I ever say that Iran was a great place that I wanted to live in?</p>
<p>I was strictly comparing Ahmedenijad to Bush.  Not the United States to Iran.  Not which government I&#8217;d rather live under.</p>
<p>Saying that Stalin was ultimately a worse monster than Hitler doesn&#8217;t mean I embrace Hitler does it?</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13155/todays-catch-22/comment-page-1/#comment-83347</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 23:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Chris were around during the Cold War, we know whose side he would favor and whose he would disfavor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Chris were around during the Cold War, we know whose side he would favor and whose he would disfavor.</p>
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		<title>By: domajot</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13155/todays-catch-22/comment-page-1/#comment-83344</link>
		<dc:creator>domajot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 22:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,

I suggest you get past just listing all the evils of Bush.  
I agree with many of your criticisms, but I disagree violently with your conslusions.

Criticizing our country and our leaders appropriately is just about the most patriotic thing one can do.  It&#039;s a sign of personal responsiblity for our country&#039;s actions.
However, if our country is wrong about something, that doesn&#039;t make another country right.  If Bush is wrong, that doesn&#039;t make Ahmedihane right.

Embracing the enemy of my enemy has led to some very bad consequences for our country.  We should contemplate that lesson on a personal level, as well.

Ask yourself this:  would you rather be a citizen of Iran criticizing their leadership?
Try to keep a perspective, for heaven&#039;s sake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p>I suggest you get past just listing all the evils of Bush.<br />
I agree with many of your criticisms, but I disagree violently with your conslusions.</p>
<p>Criticizing our country and our leaders appropriately is just about the most patriotic thing one can do.  It&#8217;s a sign of personal responsiblity for our country&#8217;s actions.<br />
However, if our country is wrong about something, that doesn&#8217;t make another country right.  If Bush is wrong, that doesn&#8217;t make Ahmedihane right.</p>
<p>Embracing the enemy of my enemy has led to some very bad consequences for our country.  We should contemplate that lesson on a personal level, as well.</p>
<p>Ask yourself this:  would you rather be a citizen of Iran criticizing their leadership?<br />
Try to keep a perspective, for heaven&#8217;s sake.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13155/todays-catch-22/comment-page-1/#comment-83338</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 22:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holly,
What&#039;s the body count up to now?  Give me the run down of Bush v. Ahmedinejad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holly,<br />
What&#8217;s the body count up to now?  Give me the run down of Bush v. Ahmedinejad.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Satterfield</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13155/todays-catch-22/comment-page-1/#comment-83268</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Satterfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 18:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,

   You really have gone over the edge with that comment.

Yes, Dustin, the first thought I had was to question how sitting in jail for something you didn&#039;t do could make you a &quot;resident&quot; of a nation ruled by a tyrannical theocracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p>   You really have gone over the edge with that comment.</p>
<p>Yes, Dustin, the first thought I had was to question how sitting in jail for something you didn&#8217;t do could make you a &#8220;resident&#8221; of a nation ruled by a tyrannical theocracy.</p>
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		<title>By: Holly in Cincinnati</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13155/todays-catch-22/comment-page-1/#comment-83246</link>
		<dc:creator>Holly in Cincinnati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 18:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris: I think you need to get some help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris: I think you need to get some help.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin H</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13155/todays-catch-22/comment-page-1/#comment-83227</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 17:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Chris, that would happen if you were an Iranian citizen critizing the Iranian power structure.

That&#039;s the whole point of the Haleh Esfandiari story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Chris, that would happen if you were an Iranian citizen critizing the Iranian power structure.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the whole point of the Haleh Esfandiari story.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13155/todays-catch-22/comment-page-1/#comment-83195</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 16:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dustin,
I think I&#039;m going to be a &quot;resident&quot; of Guantanamo courtesy of Dick Cheney for that last post I made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dustin,<br />
I think I&#8217;m going to be a &#8220;resident&#8221; of Guantanamo courtesy of Dick Cheney for that last post I made.</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13155/todays-catch-22/comment-page-1/#comment-83191</link>
		<dc:creator>Dustin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 16:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I take it none of you are going to address the insanity of Citibank freezing a persons account because they&#039;ve been imprisoned by a foreign nation?  Sorry, last time I checked getting thrown in jail didn&#039;t make one a resident of anyplace... it made them a prisoner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I take it none of you are going to address the insanity of Citibank freezing a persons account because they&#8217;ve been imprisoned by a foreign nation?  Sorry, last time I checked getting thrown in jail didn&#8217;t make one a resident of anyplace&#8230; it made them a prisoner.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13155/todays-catch-22/comment-page-1/#comment-83147</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 15:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holly,
I think that GWB has killed far more innocent people than Ahmedinejad has.

And while the current Iranian regime has always been suspect with regards to Western notions of democracy and law, the U.S. system prided itself on equal justice, openness and rights of the accused.  Bush &amp; co. have sought to undermine that.

To answer your question:
If you leave out the rhetoric on both sides (Bush claims to be on the side of God in spreading peace, democracy, freedom and security, while Ahmedinejad claims to be on the side of God in bringing security to his country while destroying Israel) and judge them based only on their actions, Bush is a monster compared to Ahmedinejad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holly,<br />
I think that GWB has killed far more innocent people than Ahmedinejad has.</p>
<p>And while the current Iranian regime has always been suspect with regards to Western notions of democracy and law, the U.S. system prided itself on equal justice, openness and rights of the accused.  Bush &amp; co. have sought to undermine that.</p>
<p>To answer your question:<br />
If you leave out the rhetoric on both sides (Bush claims to be on the side of God in spreading peace, democracy, freedom and security, while Ahmedinejad claims to be on the side of God in bringing security to his country while destroying Israel) and judge them based only on their actions, Bush is a monster compared to Ahmedinejad.</p>
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		<title>By: Holly in Cincinnati</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13155/todays-catch-22/comment-page-1/#comment-83144</link>
		<dc:creator>Holly in Cincinnati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 15:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris: Do you actually think that GWB = Ahmedinajad?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris: Do you actually think that GWB = Ahmedinajad?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13155/todays-catch-22/comment-page-1/#comment-83141</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 15:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our dear Leader never makes a mistake.  Everyone we detain, torture and kill is definitely a terrorist.
----
We live in a sh***y unjust world, that&#039;s for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our dear Leader never makes a mistake.  Everyone we detain, torture and kill is definitely a terrorist.<br />
&#8212;-<br />
We live in a sh***y unjust world, that&#8217;s for sure.</p>
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