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		<title>By: domajot</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13085/an-interreligious-conversation-with-mvdg-part-one/comment-page-1/#comment-82550</link>
		<dc:creator>domajot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 20:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To expand on Holly&#039;s reporting about the &quot;There is no Messiah...
view.  

There are thinkers going a step further to propose that God is in each of us.  I quite like this idea.  If God is spirit, it makes no sense to think of him as residing in a particular &#039;place&#039; away from earth.  It makes a lot of sense to think of God in each person&#039;s soul, waiting to be called on.  
That, in turn, transforms ideas about the afterlife.  If God is in each of us, how could there be a separate space for the souls of the dead to meet Him?
I believe that the spirits of the dead, like the spirit of God, live in the souls of those who call on them, through memory or contemplation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To expand on Holly&#8217;s reporting about the &#8220;There is no Messiah&#8230;<br />
view.  </p>
<p>There are thinkers going a step further to propose that God is in each of us.  I quite like this idea.  If God is spirit, it makes no sense to think of him as residing in a particular &#8216;place&#8217; away from earth.  It makes a lot of sense to think of God in each person&#8217;s soul, waiting to be called on.<br />
That, in turn, transforms ideas about the afterlife.  If God is in each of us, how could there be a separate space for the souls of the dead to meet Him?<br />
I believe that the spirits of the dead, like the spirit of God, live in the souls of those who call on them, through memory or contemplation.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael van der Galien</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13085/an-interreligious-conversation-with-mvdg-part-one/comment-page-1/#comment-82546</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael van der Galien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 19:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OOC: ask away! It&#039;s the intention that it&#039;s more than just a conversation between me and Holly. It&#039;s great if other people weigh in (they do at my own blog as well).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OOC: ask away! It&#8217;s the intention that it&#8217;s more than just a conversation between me and Holly. It&#8217;s great if other people weigh in (they do at my own blog as well).</p>
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		<title>By: Holly in Cincinnati</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13085/an-interreligious-conversation-with-mvdg-part-one/comment-page-1/#comment-82535</link>
		<dc:creator>Holly in Cincinnati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 15:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi John! Ah, messianism is a related topic!

List of messiah claimants - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_messiah_claimants 

Most Jews today talk of a Messianic Age rather than a human being who is &quot;The Messiah.&quot;

Here&#039;s another book published by Jewish Lights (and it&#039;s on sale):

http://jewishlights.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&amp;Store_Code=JL&amp;Product_Code=WS-2558

There Is No Messiahâ€¦and You&#039;re It: The Stunning Transformation of Judaism&#039;s Most Provocative Idea, by Rabbi Robert N. Levine

&lt;blockquote&gt;A challenge to each of us to take personal responsibility for repairing the world.
&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;We are taught that every one of us is created in the divine image. All of us can be holy through imitating Godâ€¦. So, you donâ€™t have to look around or look away. You donâ€™t have to wait for someone to come and do what you were put on this earth to do in the first place. Judaism empowers you, as one of Godâ€™s anointed ones, to do more than you ever dreamed possible.&quot;
â€”from Chapter 1&lt;/blockquote&gt;
The coming of the messiah is anticipated by millions of people of many faiths as the ultimate salve for our spiritual lives and as a way to finally make the world a better place.
There Is No Messiahâ€¦and Youâ€™re It examines the history of messianic hope and anticipation, its evolution in Judaism and Jewish history, and other interpretations of â€œmessiahâ€ that shed new light on what it means to usher in the â€œkingdom of God.â€ This fascinating book is our call to see ourselves as the fulfillment of, not the anticipators of, messianic change.
Drawing from the Bible, the Talmud, rabbinic sources, and modern-day scholars, Rabbi Robert Levine provides us with an accessible, fascinating understanding of messianic vision, as well as false messiahs throughout Jewish history. He challenges the powerful idea of messiah that has survived in the heart, soul, and ethos of the Jewish people, and reveals the immediacy of the messianic presence in our dayâ€”in our own lives.
Compelling and controversial, There Is No Messiahâ€¦and Youâ€™re It inspires us to embody the noblest values of Jewish traditionâ€”prayer, study, mitzvot, and tzedakahâ€”and embrace our own messianic potential to heal the world. &lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John! Ah, messianism is a related topic!</p>
<p>List of messiah claimants &#8211; Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_messiah_claimants" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_messiah_claimants</a> </p>
<p>Most Jews today talk of a Messianic Age rather than a human being who is &#8220;The Messiah.&#8221;</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s another book published by Jewish Lights (and it&#8217;s on sale):</p>
<p><a href="http://jewishlights.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&#038;Store_Code=JL&#038;Product_Code=WS-2558" rel="nofollow">http://jewishlights.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&#038;Store_Code=JL&#038;Product_Code=WS-2558</a></p>
<p>There Is No Messiahâ€¦and You&#8217;re It: The Stunning Transformation of Judaism&#8217;s Most Provocative Idea, by Rabbi Robert N. Levine</p>
<blockquote><p>A challenge to each of us to take personal responsibility for repairing the world.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;We are taught that every one of us is created in the divine image. All of us can be holy through imitating Godâ€¦. So, you donâ€™t have to look around or look away. You donâ€™t have to wait for someone to come and do what you were put on this earth to do in the first place. Judaism empowers you, as one of Godâ€™s anointed ones, to do more than you ever dreamed possible.&#8221;<br />
â€”from Chapter 1</p></blockquote>
<p>The coming of the messiah is anticipated by millions of people of many faiths as the ultimate salve for our spiritual lives and as a way to finally make the world a better place.<br />
There Is No Messiahâ€¦and Youâ€™re It examines the history of messianic hope and anticipation, its evolution in Judaism and Jewish history, and other interpretations of â€œmessiahâ€ that shed new light on what it means to usher in the â€œkingdom of God.â€ This fascinating book is our call to see ourselves as the fulfillment of, not the anticipators of, messianic change.<br />
Drawing from the Bible, the Talmud, rabbinic sources, and modern-day scholars, Rabbi Robert Levine provides us with an accessible, fascinating understanding of messianic vision, as well as false messiahs throughout Jewish history. He challenges the powerful idea of messiah that has survived in the heart, soul, and ethos of the Jewish people, and reveals the immediacy of the messianic presence in our dayâ€”in our own lives.<br />
Compelling and controversial, There Is No Messiahâ€¦and Youâ€™re It inspires us to embody the noblest values of Jewish traditionâ€”prayer, study, mitzvot, and tzedakahâ€”and embrace our own messianic potential to heal the world. </p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: An Interreligious Conversation: Part Two &#171; Michael P.F. van der GaliÃ«n</title>
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		<dc:creator>An Interreligious Conversation: Part Two &#171; Michael P.F. van der GaliÃ«n</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 15:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you for answering my questions yesterday. You wrote: I do good deeds in memory of my late father - thatâ€™s enough of an afterlife for me, although I [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] you for answering my questions yesterday. You wrote: I do good deeds in memory of my late father &#8211; thatâ€™s enough of an afterlife for me, although I [...]</p>
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		<title>By: outofcontext</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13085/an-interreligious-conversation-with-mvdg-part-one/comment-page-1/#comment-82530</link>
		<dc:creator>outofcontext</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 14:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with Mike P. in the &quot;I didn&#039;t know that&quot; camp.  At the risk of getting ahead of your conversation with Michael, how then does a Jewish Messiah fit into the picture.  Is he not to come in order to deliver the chosen to heaven, or is this a more earthly salvation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Mike P. in the &#8220;I didn&#8217;t know that&#8221; camp.  At the risk of getting ahead of your conversation with Michael, how then does a Jewish Messiah fit into the picture.  Is he not to come in order to deliver the chosen to heaven, or is this a more earthly salvation?</p>
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		<title>By: Holly in Cincinnati</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13085/an-interreligious-conversation-with-mvdg-part-one/comment-page-1/#comment-82526</link>
		<dc:creator>Holly in Cincinnati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 12:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re Welcome!

Here&#039;s another book I haven&#039;t read yet:

Does the Soul Survive?: A Jewish Journey to Belief in Afterlife, Past Lives &amp; Living with Purpose, by Rabbi Elie Kaplan Spitz, Jewish Lights
http://www.jewishlights.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&amp;Store_Code=JL&amp;Product_Code=1-58023-094-6</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re Welcome!</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s another book I haven&#8217;t read yet:</p>
<p>Does the Soul Survive?: A Jewish Journey to Belief in Afterlife, Past Lives &#038; Living with Purpose, by Rabbi Elie Kaplan Spitz, Jewish Lights<br />
<a href="http://www.jewishlights.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&#038;Store_Code=JL&#038;Product_Code=1-58023-094-6" rel="nofollow">http://www.jewishlights.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&#038;Store_Code=JL&#038;Product_Code=1-58023-094-6</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mike P.</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13085/an-interreligious-conversation-with-mvdg-part-one/comment-page-1/#comment-82512</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 04:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is fascinating to someone like myself, who has just assumed the so-called &quot;Judeo-Christian traditions&quot; would include similar beliefs relative to the &quot;after life.&quot;

Thanks for the insight!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is fascinating to someone like myself, who has just assumed the so-called &#8220;Judeo-Christian traditions&#8221; would include similar beliefs relative to the &#8220;after life.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks for the insight!</p>
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		<title>By: An Interreligious Conversation: Part One &#171; Michael P.F. van der GaliÃ«n</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/13085/an-interreligious-conversation-with-mvdg-part-one/comment-page-1/#comment-82506</link>
		<dc:creator>An Interreligious Conversation: Part One &#171; Michael P.F. van der GaliÃ«n</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2007 21:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] UPDATE I Holly responded. [...]</description>
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