Comments on: Best Bet to End the War http://themoderatevoice.com/13026/best-bet-to-end-the-war/ An Internet hub for moderates, centrists, and independents, with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, and right Mon, 23 Nov 2009 07:31:03 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: kritter http://themoderatevoice.com/13026/best-bet-to-end-the-war/comment-page-1/#comment-82288 kritter Fri, 25 May 2007 20:07:32 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/general/13026/best-bet-to-end-the-war/#comment-82288 At least they are trying. What I don't get is that everyone seems to expect them to be able to bring Bush to his knees, when they have no real majority in the Senate and a slim one in the House. They want the Democrats to take on the political risk for other peoples mistakes. It would be political suicide. Bush would love to palm the entire blame for this fiasco onto them, as it was in Vietnam. But historians know that LBJ, and McNamara were to blame for Vietnam. At least they are trying. What I don’t get is that everyone seems to expect them to be able to bring Bush to his knees, when they have no real majority in the Senate and a slim one in the House. They want the Democrats to take on the political risk for other peoples mistakes. It would be political suicide. Bush would love to palm the entire blame for this fiasco onto them, as it was in Vietnam. But historians know that LBJ, and McNamara were to blame for Vietnam.

]]> By: domajot http://themoderatevoice.com/13026/best-bet-to-end-the-war/comment-page-1/#comment-82216 domajot Fri, 25 May 2007 08:42:39 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/general/13026/best-bet-to-end-the-war/#comment-82216 As much as the Dems are being berated by everyone on the left and the right, I think they did the best thing possible. The day the surge was introduced was the day their fate re the supplemental was sealed. To continue sending bills with benchmarks to the WH only to heve them repeatedly vetoed would have taken on the character of a charade. Even had they been able to defund the war now, American folklore, via Republican talking points, would be full of the war that could have been won if only the surge was allowed to play its course. I think the Democrats did well. Now we wait. As much as the Dems are being berated by everyone on the left and the right, I think they did the best thing possible.
The day the surge was introduced was the day their fate re the supplemental was sealed. To continue sending bills with benchmarks to the WH only to heve them repeatedly vetoed would have taken on the character of a charade.
Even had they been able to defund the war now, American folklore, via Republican talking points, would be full of the war that could have been won if only the surge was allowed to play its course.

I think the Democrats did well.
Now we wait.

]]> By: Entropy http://themoderatevoice.com/13026/best-bet-to-end-the-war/comment-page-1/#comment-82181 Entropy Thu, 24 May 2007 20:51:48 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/general/13026/best-bet-to-end-the-war/#comment-82181 Sam, No, it would not shut the government down. The war is funded through supplementals. No supplemental, no war. Sam,

No, it would not shut the government down. The war is funded through supplementals. No supplemental, no war.

]]> By: Sam http://themoderatevoice.com/13026/best-bet-to-end-the-war/comment-page-1/#comment-82180 Sam Thu, 24 May 2007 20:49:45 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/general/13026/best-bet-to-end-the-war/#comment-82180 The Dems period don't have the political muscle to stop the war. They can only propose things to the president which he can then veto. The president still has the power to continue on as he pleases. All the democrats can do is stop all funding and end up looking like the guys that shut the gov't down when really its the fault of an idiot president. The Dems period don’t have the political muscle to stop the war. They can only propose things to the president which he can then veto. The president still has the power to continue on as he pleases. All the democrats can do is stop all funding and end up looking like the guys that shut the gov’t down when really its the fault of an idiot president.

]]> By: Entropy http://themoderatevoice.com/13026/best-bet-to-end-the-war/comment-page-1/#comment-82174 Entropy Thu, 24 May 2007 20:14:35 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/general/13026/best-bet-to-end-the-war/#comment-82174 What troll? ;) What troll? ;)

]]> By: AustinRoth http://themoderatevoice.com/13026/best-bet-to-end-the-war/comment-page-1/#comment-82173 AustinRoth Thu, 24 May 2007 20:11:11 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/general/13026/best-bet-to-end-the-war/#comment-82173 Please do not feed, acknowledge, encourage, bait, tease, respond to, argue with, or look at the troll. Please do not feed, acknowledge, encourage, bait, tease, respond to, argue with, or look at the troll.

]]> By: pacatrue http://themoderatevoice.com/13026/best-bet-to-end-the-war/comment-page-1/#comment-82166 pacatrue Thu, 24 May 2007 19:53:30 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/general/13026/best-bet-to-end-the-war/#comment-82166 Agreed, Entropy. Agreed, Entropy.

]]> By: Entropy http://themoderatevoice.com/13026/best-bet-to-end-the-war/comment-page-1/#comment-82159 Entropy Thu, 24 May 2007 19:03:43 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/general/13026/best-bet-to-end-the-war/#comment-82159 Wow, Larry Houle knows very very little about Iraq. Wow, Larry Houle knows very very little about Iraq.

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