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		<title>By: Holly in Cincinnati</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/12985/not-good/comment-page-1/#comment-81806</link>
		<dc:creator>Holly in Cincinnati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 01:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know how to use a gun safely but choose not to have one. I had an ex who insisted on buying a gun after a burglary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know how to use a gun safely but choose not to have one. I had an ex who insisted on buying a gun after a burglary.</p>
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		<title>By: Holly in Cincinnati</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/12985/not-good/comment-page-1/#comment-81805</link>
		<dc:creator>Holly in Cincinnati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 01:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, we don&#039;t reason by emotion. 

Do you think we need guns for some reason? I don&#039;t think anyone I knew growing up ever had them aside from grandpa&#039;s WW1 rifle hung over the mantel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, we don&#8217;t reason by emotion. </p>
<p>Do you think we need guns for some reason? I don&#8217;t think anyone I knew growing up ever had them aside from grandpa&#8217;s WW1 rifle hung over the mantel.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/12985/not-good/comment-page-1/#comment-81793</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 00:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; stop selling gasoline

Gun control -- a &quot;health&quot; [sic] as well as &quot;security&quot; issue...

Don&#039;t forget the weasel approach, that good old-fashioned 10,000% Democratic tax on ammunition.  (Surprisingly, I&#039;ve heard next to nothing about levying taxes on guns.)

Maybe in addition to high fuel taxes for all those real and not-so-real things that are claimed are costs for our oil security, there might be auto &quot;safety&quot; sumptuary or &quot;sin&quot; taxes on fuels.  Why, that could force people to use electric lawn mowers rather than those with gasoline power -- add an &quot;air quality&quot; tax...

(Yes, such a 10,000% tax on ammo has been sought.  Note the fraudulent titles!)

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=health&amp;res=9F0CE3DC1F3CF937A35752C1A965958260

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c104:S.119:

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c105:S.137:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; stop selling gasoline</p>
<p>Gun control &#8212; a &#8220;health&#8221; [sic] as well as &#8220;security&#8221; issue&#8230;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t forget the weasel approach, that good old-fashioned 10,000% Democratic tax on ammunition.  (Surprisingly, I&#8217;ve heard next to nothing about levying taxes on guns.)</p>
<p>Maybe in addition to high fuel taxes for all those real and not-so-real things that are claimed are costs for our oil security, there might be auto &#8220;safety&#8221; sumptuary or &#8220;sin&#8221; taxes on fuels.  Why, that could force people to use electric lawn mowers rather than those with gasoline power &#8212; add an &#8220;air quality&#8221; tax&#8230;</p>
<p>(Yes, such a 10,000% tax on ammo has been sought.  Note the fraudulent titles!)</p>
<p><a href="http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=health&#038;res=9F0CE3DC1F3CF937A35752C1A965958260" rel="nofollow">http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=health&#038;res=9F0CE3DC1F3CF937A35752C1A965958260</a></p>
<p><a href="http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c104:S.119" rel="nofollow">http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c104:S.119</a>:</p>
<p><a href="http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c105:S.137" rel="nofollow">http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c105:S.137</a>:</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/12985/not-good/comment-page-1/#comment-81792</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 00:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; Democratic Senators Lautenberg
&gt; and Schumer are Jewish liberals
&gt; (like me) but Iâ€™ve never noticed 
&gt; them barking.

Holly: They are emotive, grand-standing liberal Democratic politicians.  Please read the link I provided.  Here it is again:

http://www.space-rockets.com/presscon.html

They&#039;ve been strident about a number of issues as part of their PR campaigns (appealing to emotion, the basis for &quot;reasoning&quot; with their base).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; Democratic Senators Lautenberg<br />
&gt; and Schumer are Jewish liberals<br />
&gt; (like me) but Iâ€™ve never noticed<br />
&gt; them barking.</p>
<p>Holly: They are emotive, grand-standing liberal Democratic politicians.  Please read the link I provided.  Here it is again:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.space-rockets.com/presscon.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.space-rockets.com/presscon.html</a></p>
<p>They&#8217;ve been strident about a number of issues as part of their PR campaigns (appealing to emotion, the basis for &#8220;reasoning&#8221; with their base).</p>
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		<title>By: Holly in Cincinnati</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/12985/not-good/comment-page-1/#comment-81782</link>
		<dc:creator>Holly in Cincinnati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 23:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Democratic Senators Lautenberg and Schumer are Jewish liberals (like me) but I&#039;ve never noticed them barking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Democratic Senators Lautenberg and Schumer are Jewish liberals (like me) but I&#8217;ve never noticed them barking.</p>
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		<title>By: Somebody</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/12985/not-good/comment-page-1/#comment-81781</link>
		<dc:creator>Somebody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 23:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I for one find that these terrorists using gasoline should force the left to demand that we stop selling gasoline in the united states in order to prevent needless bomb making material to the terrorist.

That would show them a thing or two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I for one find that these terrorists using gasoline should force the left to demand that we stop selling gasoline in the united states in order to prevent needless bomb making material to the terrorist.</p>
<p>That would show them a thing or two.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/12985/not-good/comment-page-1/#comment-81780</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 23:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; But are the laws on gasoline
&gt; dispensing really for molotov
&gt; cocktails?

Not only -- it&#039;s also for fire safety.

Believe it or not, there are people who smoke while handling gasoline (they also use cell phones, i.e., electrical devices, and get in and back out of their car building up static charges on themselves), just as in the Good Old Days you might see a photo of someone handloading (making his own ammunition) in his home workshop, puffing contentedly on his pipe.  This is what is known as Asking For Trouble.  Same for putting gasoline into unsafe containers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; But are the laws on gasoline<br />
&gt; dispensing really for molotov<br />
&gt; cocktails?</p>
<p>Not only &#8212; it&#8217;s also for fire safety.</p>
<p>Believe it or not, there are people who smoke while handling gasoline (they also use cell phones, i.e., electrical devices, and get in and back out of their car building up static charges on themselves), just as in the Good Old Days you might see a photo of someone handloading (making his own ammunition) in his home workshop, puffing contentedly on his pipe.  This is what is known as Asking For Trouble.  Same for putting gasoline into unsafe containers.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/12985/not-good/comment-page-1/#comment-81779</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 23:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; DLS, are you under the
&gt; impression that we Jews
&gt; bark?

And no women jokes here, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; DLS, are you under the<br />
&gt; impression that we Jews<br />
&gt; bark?</p>
<p>And no women jokes here, either.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/12985/not-good/comment-page-1/#comment-81778</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 23:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; DLS, are you under the
&gt; impression that we Jews
&gt; bark?

No.

Apparently you never realized that Lautenberg and Schumer take up one liberal Democratic cause after another in the past, and have included something similar to this before:

http://www.space-rockets.com/presscon.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; DLS, are you under the<br />
&gt; impression that we Jews<br />
&gt; bark?</p>
<p>No.</p>
<p>Apparently you never realized that Lautenberg and Schumer take up one liberal Democratic cause after another in the past, and have included something similar to this before:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.space-rockets.com/presscon.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.space-rockets.com/presscon.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Holly in Cincinnati</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/12985/not-good/comment-page-1/#comment-81775</link>
		<dc:creator>Holly in Cincinnati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 23:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DLS, are you under the impression that we Jews bark?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DLS, are you under the impression that we Jews bark?</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin H</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/12985/not-good/comment-page-1/#comment-81771</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 23:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I&#039;m with DLS on this, making it a rouge crazy guy that comes out of nowhere is kind of like saying &quot;this could be your neighbor, you just don&#039;t know! be afraid and listen to us for more information!&quot;

But are the laws on gasoline dispensing really for molotov cocktails? seems like you can poor it from there into anything you want if you have the inclination. I figured it was more of the &#039;government trying to protect you from yourself&#039; movement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I&#8217;m with DLS on this, making it a rouge crazy guy that comes out of nowhere is kind of like saying &#8220;this could be your neighbor, you just don&#8217;t know! be afraid and listen to us for more information!&#8221;</p>
<p>But are the laws on gasoline dispensing really for molotov cocktails? seems like you can poor it from there into anything you want if you have the inclination. I figured it was more of the &#8216;government trying to protect you from yourself&#8217; movement.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynx</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/12985/not-good/comment-page-1/#comment-81770</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 22:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And Campbell County authorities arrested a Liberty University student for having several homemade bombs in his car.
The student, 19-year-old Mark D. Uhl of Amissville, Va., reportedly told authorities that he was making the bombs to stop protesters from disrupting the funeral service.&quot;

Now there&#039;s some of that sweet Christian love....

Note to real Christians: I in no way think this is representative of Christians in general.

Note to everyone: If instead of a Liberty U student it had been a Gay rights militant...anyone want to take my bet that the cable news, right-wing talking heads would be going ballistic about the &quot;hateful left&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And Campbell County authorities arrested a Liberty University student for having several homemade bombs in his car.<br />
The student, 19-year-old Mark D. Uhl of Amissville, Va., reportedly told authorities that he was making the bombs to stop protesters from disrupting the funeral service.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now there&#8217;s some of that sweet Christian love&#8230;.</p>
<p>Note to real Christians: I in no way think this is representative of Christians in general.</p>
<p>Note to everyone: If instead of a Liberty U student it had been a Gay rights militant&#8230;anyone want to take my bet that the cable news, right-wing talking heads would be going ballistic about the &#8220;hateful left&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Davebo</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/12985/not-good/comment-page-1/#comment-81767</link>
		<dc:creator>Davebo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 22:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Now, given the possible target(s) of this bombing, it may not be a surprise if you donâ€™t hear predictable barking this time by &lt;strike&gt;Lautenberg&lt;/strike&gt; Malkin and &lt;/strike&gt;Schumer&lt;/i&gt; Hewitt proclaiming this was a terrorist attack.&lt;blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Now, given the possible target(s) of this bombing, it may not be a surprise if you donâ€™t hear predictable barking this time by <strike>Lautenberg</strike> Malkin and Schumer Hewitt proclaiming this was a terrorist attack.<br />
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/12985/not-good/comment-page-1/#comment-81766</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 22:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; Just wondering how
&gt; other people read 
&gt; things like this.

I don&#039;t believe they&#039;re minimizing the story.  If anything, they&#039;re adding an additional element to it by making the reader aware that there are people in this world who make bombs at home.

Now, given the possible target(s) of this bombing, it may not be a surprise if you don&#039;t hear predictable barking this time by Lautenberg and Schumer, attempting to ban the sale of black and smokeless powder (more anti-gun lunacy advertised as an anti-terrorism measure).

It&#039;s already illegal to dispense gasoline into unapproved containers, so as to &quot;prevent&quot; (???) Molotov cocktails from being made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; Just wondering how<br />
&gt; other people read<br />
&gt; things like this.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe they&#8217;re minimizing the story.  If anything, they&#8217;re adding an additional element to it by making the reader aware that there are people in this world who make bombs at home.</p>
<p>Now, given the possible target(s) of this bombing, it may not be a surprise if you don&#8217;t hear predictable barking this time by Lautenberg and Schumer, attempting to ban the sale of black and smokeless powder (more anti-gun lunacy advertised as an anti-terrorism measure).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s already illegal to dispense gasoline into unapproved containers, so as to &#8220;prevent&#8221; (???) Molotov cocktails from being made.</p>
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		<title>By: The Gun Toting Liberalâ„¢</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/12985/not-good/comment-page-1/#comment-81759</link>
		<dc:creator>The Gun Toting Liberalâ„¢</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 21:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Christian fundie news within minutes. Here we go, from ABC News (H/T to Holly In Cincinnatti of The Moderate Voice): Bomb Plot Thwarted at Falwell&#8217;s Funeral Student Arrested With Homemade Bombs, Three Other [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Christian fundie news within minutes. Here we go, from ABC News (H/T to Holly In Cincinnatti of The Moderate Voice): Bomb Plot Thwarted at Falwell&#8217;s Funeral Student Arrested With Homemade Bombs, Three Other [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Holly in Cincinnati</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/12985/not-good/comment-page-1/#comment-81758</link>
		<dc:creator>Holly in Cincinnati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 21:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Supposedly these were made with gasoline and were something like napalm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Supposedly these were made with gasoline and were something like napalm.</p>
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		<title>By: Iconic Midwest</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/12985/not-good/comment-page-1/#comment-81756</link>
		<dc:creator>Iconic Midwest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 21:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve always wondered about this, when media sources say something like, 

&lt;blockquote&gt;Student Arrested With &lt;em&gt;Homemade&lt;/em&gt; Bombs&lt;/blockquote&gt;

..is that an attempt to minimize the infraction involved?  After all, nearly all bombs that go off in the United States are not bought at Armaments R Us.  The Atlanta Olympic bomb was &quot;homemade&quot;, as was the Oklahoma City bomb, as were the Unibombers. 

Just wondering how other people read things like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always wondered about this, when media sources say something like, </p>
<blockquote><p>Student Arrested With <em>Homemade</em> Bombs</p></blockquote>
<p>..is that an attempt to minimize the infraction involved?  After all, nearly all bombs that go off in the United States are not bought at Armaments R Us.  The Atlanta Olympic bomb was &#8220;homemade&#8221;, as was the Oklahoma City bomb, as were the Unibombers. </p>
<p>Just wondering how other people read things like this.</p>
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