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		<title>By: Nathaniel White</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/12864/the-world-net-daily-poll-on-the-republican-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-80949</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathaniel White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 09:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DLS -  I&#039;ve found FAIR and Chomsky both interesting and informative.  

When you say the media&#039;s &quot;leftish bias&quot; is &quot;incontrovertible&quot;, could you share with me your sources?  I&#039;m interested in expanding my circle of useful media critiques.

In reading discussions of reporting by authors from both &quot;left&quot; and &quot;right&quot;, I have come to believe the following:
Reporters (including those writing reportage scripts for news programs) try to walk a &quot;non-partisan&quot; line, but their idea of &quot;non-partisan&quot; often seems vastly partisan to observers.  

For example, in reporting on economic issues, reporters try to stay with the &quot;economic truth&quot;, as defined by the &quot;science&quot; of economics.  Then they may offer counter-arguments, which are framed as moral criticisms of pragmatic policies.  In fact, the way the reporters frame the issue -- &quot;science&quot; vs. &quot;morals&quot; -- is the viewpoint of the economists.  Many people question the underlying assumptions of the discipline of economics, such as rational actor theory.  &quot;Balanced&quot; reporting on economics issues would report the theoretical basis, and financial commitments, of the speakers, rather than fitting them into the &quot;science&quot; vs. &quot;morals&quot; framework.  That would take longer, however, and would require the reporter to understand both points of view and the practical interests of those holding them.

As David Schaub notes, stereotypes are useful short-hand for reality.

The problem is that reporters try to use that short-hand in order to convey news stories quickly, but both &quot;right-wing&quot; and &quot;left-wing&quot; observers justifiably object to the way the stereotypical short-hand obscures the most important aspects of an issue.  Of course, the different observers rarely agree on which of those aspects are important...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DLS &#8211;  I&#8217;ve found FAIR and Chomsky both interesting and informative.  </p>
<p>When you say the media&#8217;s &#8220;leftish bias&#8221; is &#8220;incontrovertible&#8221;, could you share with me your sources?  I&#8217;m interested in expanding my circle of useful media critiques.</p>
<p>In reading discussions of reporting by authors from both &#8220;left&#8221; and &#8220;right&#8221;, I have come to believe the following:<br />
Reporters (including those writing reportage scripts for news programs) try to walk a &#8220;non-partisan&#8221; line, but their idea of &#8220;non-partisan&#8221; often seems vastly partisan to observers.  </p>
<p>For example, in reporting on economic issues, reporters try to stay with the &#8220;economic truth&#8221;, as defined by the &#8220;science&#8221; of economics.  Then they may offer counter-arguments, which are framed as moral criticisms of pragmatic policies.  In fact, the way the reporters frame the issue &#8212; &#8220;science&#8221; vs. &#8220;morals&#8221; &#8212; is the viewpoint of the economists.  Many people question the underlying assumptions of the discipline of economics, such as rational actor theory.  &#8220;Balanced&#8221; reporting on economics issues would report the theoretical basis, and financial commitments, of the speakers, rather than fitting them into the &#8220;science&#8221; vs. &#8220;morals&#8221; framework.  That would take longer, however, and would require the reporter to understand both points of view and the practical interests of those holding them.</p>
<p>As David Schaub notes, stereotypes are useful short-hand for reality.</p>
<p>The problem is that reporters try to use that short-hand in order to convey news stories quickly, but both &#8220;right-wing&#8221; and &#8220;left-wing&#8221; observers justifiably object to the way the stereotypical short-hand obscures the most important aspects of an issue.  Of course, the different observers rarely agree on which of those aspects are important&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Pyst</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pyst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 05:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don;t even buy leftISH either, they are nothingness personified now. Nothing but American Idol updates, runaway brides, Anna Nichole Smith, crazy astonauts, and video straight from Americas Funniest Home videos. It&#039;s all about getting morons to tune in for the next airing of Nancy Grace, and Bill O&#039; Reilly outrages. The &quot;media&quot; is garbage now with nothing to say about anything at all. Which means they aren&#039;t liberal, they are just useless now as far as information goes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don;t even buy leftISH either, they are nothingness personified now. Nothing but American Idol updates, runaway brides, Anna Nichole Smith, crazy astonauts, and video straight from Americas Funniest Home videos. It&#8217;s all about getting morons to tune in for the next airing of Nancy Grace, and Bill O&#8217; Reilly outrages. The &#8220;media&#8221; is garbage now with nothing to say about anything at all. Which means they aren&#8217;t liberal, they are just useless now as far as information goes.</p>
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		<title>By: kritter</title>
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		<dc:creator>kritter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 02:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the Libertarians need to break away from the GOP- they have nothing in common with them. Paul was so out of the mainstream with GOP primary voters, but wouldn&#039;t have been with Libertarians, Indies or  fiscal conservatives. The Republican party really has become a giant monolith where only God, guns and country matter. I really feel bad for Paul because he was made to feel like a traitor, by the aggressive war-mongering right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Libertarians need to break away from the GOP- they have nothing in common with them. Paul was so out of the mainstream with GOP primary voters, but wouldn&#8217;t have been with Libertarians, Indies or  fiscal conservatives. The Republican party really has become a giant monolith where only God, guns and country matter. I really feel bad for Paul because he was made to feel like a traitor, by the aggressive war-mongering right.</p>
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		<title>By: Rudi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 02:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DLS - I&#039;ll buy leftISH and not leftIST.</description>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 00:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The media&#039;s leftish bias and its Democratic voting record are incontrovertible.

Disputes by Chomsky, FAIR, etc., are not genuine examples of controversy.

And diversion toward tackiness or &quot;marketing&quot; don&#039;t settle the issue, they evade it.  The tackiness (for which Fox was well known long before its not-religiously-liberal heresy had become controversial and the object of hatred from the Left) and the &quot;marketing&quot; are completely independent.  And the garbage coming out of Hollywood is coming from someplace notoriously liberal, even more so than the broadcast and printed &quot;news&quot; media.  Yes, that evil, corporate, right-wing Hollywood known for &quot;social consciousness,&quot; protesting the war in Iraq (predictably) when normal people had supported it who has given much money to that evil, right-wing Republican, Barack Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The media&#8217;s leftish bias and its Democratic voting record are incontrovertible.</p>
<p>Disputes by Chomsky, FAIR, etc., are not genuine examples of controversy.</p>
<p>And diversion toward tackiness or &#8220;marketing&#8221; don&#8217;t settle the issue, they evade it.  The tackiness (for which Fox was well known long before its not-religiously-liberal heresy had become controversial and the object of hatred from the Left) and the &#8220;marketing&#8221; are completely independent.  And the garbage coming out of Hollywood is coming from someplace notoriously liberal, even more so than the broadcast and printed &#8220;news&#8221; media.  Yes, that evil, corporate, right-wing Hollywood known for &#8220;social consciousness,&#8221; protesting the war in Iraq (predictably) when normal people had supported it who has given much money to that evil, right-wing Republican, Barack Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: Rudi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 23:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pyst - Thats why we get the &quot;missing blonde girls&quot; and &quot;murdered wives&quot; stories. Marketing, demographics and ratings control news content, not facts on the ground. Poor Natty Holoway...:(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pyst &#8211; Thats why we get the &#8220;missing blonde girls&#8221; and &#8220;murdered wives&#8221; stories. Marketing, demographics and ratings control news content, not facts on the ground. Poor Natty Holoway&#8230;:(</p>
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		<title>By: Pyst</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pyst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 23:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry about the typos....Typoman lives!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry about the typos&#8230;.Typoman lives!</p>
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		<title>By: Pyst</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pyst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 23:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The liberal media chant rings terribly hollow on this subject.

The TV media is owned, and controlled by large corporations that overwhelmingly back whimever is coziest with big business (GOP usually). Thats why we see very little actual independant journalism anymore, and the quality of journalism is so poor. The media likes to frame what a canidate is, and how they sell to the public, be that left, right, upside down. And when someone comes along and messes with that framing like Paul the media gets upset and indignant towards them regadless of what party, or stance they come from.

Liberal has nohing to do with it anymore, it&#039;s unfettered capitalism, and marketing they do now, not journalistic thought, that day has passed and is why you are here, not infront of Ye Olde TV like the day of old.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The liberal media chant rings terribly hollow on this subject.</p>
<p>The TV media is owned, and controlled by large corporations that overwhelmingly back whimever is coziest with big business (GOP usually). Thats why we see very little actual independant journalism anymore, and the quality of journalism is so poor. The media likes to frame what a canidate is, and how they sell to the public, be that left, right, upside down. And when someone comes along and messes with that framing like Paul the media gets upset and indignant towards them regadless of what party, or stance they come from.</p>
<p>Liberal has nohing to do with it anymore, it&#8217;s unfettered capitalism, and marketing they do now, not journalistic thought, that day has passed and is why you are here, not infront of Ye Olde TV like the day of old.</p>
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		<title>By: Rudi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 23:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I admire Paul for his stand on principle, but I wish he would relinguish his Republican affiliation, he&#039;s done it before.

http://www.lp.org/organization/history.shtml
&lt;blockquote&gt;1987

    Former U.S. Congressman Ron Paul resigns from the Republican Party and joins the LP.
    
    Seattle convention nominates Ron Paul for President and Andre Marrou for Vice President.

1988

    Ron Paul, on the ballot in 46 states and the District of Columbia, comes in third, receiving more than 430,000 votes nationwide -- almost twice the total of any other &quot;third&quot; party.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

http://www.house.gov/paul/bio.shtml
&lt;blockquote&gt;While serving in Congress during the late 1970s and early 1980s, Dr. Paul&#039;s limited-government ideals were not popular in Washington. He served on the House Banking committee, where he was a strong advocate for sound monetary policy and an outspoken critic of the Federal Reserve&#039;s inflationary measures. He also was a key member of the Gold Commission, advocating a return to a gold standard for our currency. He was an unwavering advocate of pro-life and pro-family values. Dr. Paul consistently voted to lower or abolish federal taxes, spending, and regulation, and used his House seat to actively promote the return of government to its proper constitutional levels. In 1984, he voluntarily relinquished his House seat and returned to his medical practice.

Dr. Paul returned to Congress in 1997 to represent the 14th Congressional district of Texas. He serves on the House Financial Services Committee, the International Relations committee, and the Joint Economic Committee. On the Financial Services Committee, Rep. Paul serves as the vice-chairman of the Oversight and Investigations subcommittee. He continues to advocate a dramatic reduction in the size of the federal government and a return to constitutional principles.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I admire Paul for his stand on principle, but I wish he would relinguish his Republican affiliation, he&#8217;s done it before.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.lp.org/organization/history.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.lp.org/organization/history.shtml</a></p>
<blockquote><p>1987</p>
<p>    Former U.S. Congressman Ron Paul resigns from the Republican Party and joins the LP.</p>
<p>    Seattle convention nominates Ron Paul for President and Andre Marrou for Vice President.</p>
<p>1988</p>
<p>    Ron Paul, on the ballot in 46 states and the District of Columbia, comes in third, receiving more than 430,000 votes nationwide &#8212; almost twice the total of any other &#8220;third&#8221; party.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.house.gov/paul/bio.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.house.gov/paul/bio.shtml</a></p>
<blockquote><p>While serving in Congress during the late 1970s and early 1980s, Dr. Paul&#8217;s limited-government ideals were not popular in Washington. He served on the House Banking committee, where he was a strong advocate for sound monetary policy and an outspoken critic of the Federal Reserve&#8217;s inflationary measures. He also was a key member of the Gold Commission, advocating a return to a gold standard for our currency. He was an unwavering advocate of pro-life and pro-family values. Dr. Paul consistently voted to lower or abolish federal taxes, spending, and regulation, and used his House seat to actively promote the return of government to its proper constitutional levels. In 1984, he voluntarily relinquished his House seat and returned to his medical practice.</p>
<p>Dr. Paul returned to Congress in 1997 to represent the 14th Congressional district of Texas. He serves on the House Financial Services Committee, the International Relations committee, and the Joint Economic Committee. On the Financial Services Committee, Rep. Paul serves as the vice-chairman of the Oversight and Investigations subcommittee. He continues to advocate a dramatic reduction in the size of the federal government and a return to constitutional principles.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Nathaniel White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathaniel White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 22:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve got to say, despite the fact that I support many of the &quot;World Government&quot; treaty organizations Ron Paul rejects and I believe a woman&#039;s right to control her body trumps most foetal rights, I really like Ron Paul.  Do you all remember that &quot;It&#039;s not Fascism when [we do it]&quot; poster?  Seems to me the consensus, to the extent that any emerged on this blog, was that both &quot;left&quot; and &quot;right&quot; have supported policies that smell faintly of fascism, particularly since 9/11.  I&#039;d rather have a principled Libertarian hacking away at the Federal Gov&#039;t than someone who claims he&#039;ll do the job while massively inflating budgets with supplementals and trimming our civil liberties along the way.  In short -- &quot;nonintervention&quot; may be wrong, but at least it&#039;s an error of omission!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got to say, despite the fact that I support many of the &#8220;World Government&#8221; treaty organizations Ron Paul rejects and I believe a woman&#8217;s right to control her body trumps most foetal rights, I really like Ron Paul.  Do you all remember that &#8220;It&#8217;s not Fascism when [we do it]&#8221; poster?  Seems to me the consensus, to the extent that any emerged on this blog, was that both &#8220;left&#8221; and &#8220;right&#8221; have supported policies that smell faintly of fascism, particularly since 9/11.  I&#8217;d rather have a principled Libertarian hacking away at the Federal Gov&#8217;t than someone who claims he&#8217;ll do the job while massively inflating budgets with supplementals and trimming our civil liberties along the way.  In short &#8212; &#8220;nonintervention&#8221; may be wrong, but at least it&#8217;s an error of omission!</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 21:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; If Paulâ€™s a RINO, the media
&gt; should be all over him

No.  He is a libertarian (normal, standard American from English-heritage libertarian roots), which puts him against big government, which the media worships (along with plenty of fellow liberals, so long as that government regulates business and strikes down rather than passes laws regarding individual conduct, and engages in income transfer and redistribution rather than spend it on formal, legitimate government activities).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; If Paulâ€™s a RINO, the media<br />
&gt; should be all over him</p>
<p>No.  He is a libertarian (normal, standard American from English-heritage libertarian roots), which puts him against big government, which the media worships (along with plenty of fellow liberals, so long as that government regulates business and strikes down rather than passes laws regarding individual conduct, and engages in income transfer and redistribution rather than spend it on formal, legitimate government activities).</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 21:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; someone who pumps up
&gt; the base like Rudy

???  The big issue everyone discusses is the lack of a real conservative as one of the leaders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; someone who pumps up<br />
&gt; the base like Rudy</p>
<p>???  The big issue everyone discusses is the lack of a real conservative as one of the leaders.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 21:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; DLS- The debate was broadcast
&gt; on FOX- they basically pilloried Paul 

Not surprising.  When operating in party-hack mode about elections (see Limbaugh; don&#039;t forget Limbaugh&#039;s attacks on McCain just a few years ago) they will attack anyone who doesn&#039;t follow the mainstream party line.

&gt; When running for office heâ€™s a RINO.

But Rudi, you&#039;re being technical or legalistic here, rather than acknowledging what the term really means (GOPers who should be Democrats, largely notorious people from the Northeast -- Snowe, Collins, Chafee, Specter...).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; DLS- The debate was broadcast<br />
&gt; on FOX- they basically pilloried Paul </p>
<p>Not surprising.  When operating in party-hack mode about elections (see Limbaugh; don&#8217;t forget Limbaugh&#8217;s attacks on McCain just a few years ago) they will attack anyone who doesn&#8217;t follow the mainstream party line.</p>
<p>&gt; When running for office heâ€™s a RINO.</p>
<p>But Rudi, you&#8217;re being technical or legalistic here, rather than acknowledging what the term really means (GOPers who should be Democrats, largely notorious people from the Northeast &#8212; Snowe, Collins, Chafee, Specter&#8230;).</p>
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		<title>By: Rudi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 21:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MvdG - I&#039;m aware of the RINO&#039;s being NE Rublicans. I bet I was aware of Paul before you even knew he existed. Go to the US Libertarian website to check out Paul&#039;s history. He renounced his Republican affliation when not running for office. When running for office he&#039;s a RINO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MvdG &#8211; I&#8217;m aware of the RINO&#8217;s being NE Rublicans. I bet I was aware of Paul before you even knew he existed. Go to the US Libertarian website to check out Paul&#8217;s history. He renounced his Republican affliation when not running for office. When running for office he&#8217;s a RINO.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael van der Galien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael van der Galien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 20:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He&#039;s not a RINO at all. He&#039;s a libertarian conservative, an important part of the Republican Party. He did, what I saw of the debate, indeed well and, yes, I am quite sure that there is a significant part of the Republican Party that agrees with many of his views.

The GOP would be wise to treat Paul with respect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s not a RINO at all. He&#8217;s a libertarian conservative, an important part of the Republican Party. He did, what I saw of the debate, indeed well and, yes, I am quite sure that there is a significant part of the Republican Party that agrees with many of his views.</p>
<p>The GOP would be wise to treat Paul with respect.</p>
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		<title>By: kritter</title>
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		<dc:creator>kritter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 20:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello- DLS- The debate was broadcast on FOX- they basically pilloried Paul - Hannity could not say enough terrible things about him. Other than that he has received very little press when you compare him to ,say Chuck Hagel- who gets a camera in his face every time he talks about the Republican party or the war. I think Ron Paul doesn&#039;t merit the big ratings, where you need someone who pumps up the base like Rudy-not some dumpy little middle-aged man talking small government and a nonaggressive stance in the world. He&#039;s an Eisenhower Republican.
If Paul&#039;s a RINO, the media should be all over him, if they like liberal or moderate Republicans. But its the aggressive GOPers that have gotten all of the attention from both debates. (this one and MSNBC)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello- DLS- The debate was broadcast on FOX- they basically pilloried Paul &#8211; Hannity could not say enough terrible things about him. Other than that he has received very little press when you compare him to ,say Chuck Hagel- who gets a camera in his face every time he talks about the Republican party or the war. I think Ron Paul doesn&#8217;t merit the big ratings, where you need someone who pumps up the base like Rudy-not some dumpy little middle-aged man talking small government and a nonaggressive stance in the world. He&#8217;s an Eisenhower Republican.<br />
If Paul&#8217;s a RINO, the media should be all over him, if they like liberal or moderate Republicans. But its the aggressive GOPers that have gotten all of the attention from both debates. (this one and MSNBC)</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 20:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; [Paul is] a RINO and not
&gt; because of â€œmoderateâ€
&gt; positions.

He&#039;s not acceptable to the Washington establishment (including all the media types).  Recall 1992 and the conceited, disgusting contempt openly shown on the air toward Perot on election night by Sam Donaldson and George Will.  (The Wall Street Journal, which is N.E. establishmentarian when it counts, was predictably anti-Perot and I suspect Rush Limbaugh was in party-hack election mode and also against Perot.)  In that too-inbred-and-nepotic DC parasite community and culture, the same is true of any unorthodox Republican.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; [Paul is] a RINO and not<br />
&gt; because of â€œmoderateâ€<br />
&gt; positions.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s not acceptable to the Washington establishment (including all the media types).  Recall 1992 and the conceited, disgusting contempt openly shown on the air toward Perot on election night by Sam Donaldson and George Will.  (The Wall Street Journal, which is N.E. establishmentarian when it counts, was predictably anti-Perot and I suspect Rush Limbaugh was in party-hack election mode and also against Perot.)  In that too-inbred-and-nepotic DC parasite community and culture, the same is true of any unorthodox Republican.</p>
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		<title>By: Rudi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 20:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DLS - The MS Republicans don&#039;t even acknowlege Paul. He&#039;s a RINO and not because of &quot;moderate&quot; positions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DLS &#8211; The MS Republicans don&#8217;t even acknowlege Paul. He&#8217;s a RINO and not because of &#8220;moderate&#8221; positions.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 20:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kritter asked:

&gt;  I get the feeling that heâ€™s
&gt; hitting a chord in the GOP,
&gt; but not with the media?

* GRIN *

This question is not even asked by those of us who already have known the media are liberal and Democratic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kritter asked:</p>
<p>&gt;  I get the feeling that heâ€™s<br />
&gt; hitting a chord in the GOP,<br />
&gt; but not with the media?</p>
<p>* GRIN *</p>
<p>This question is not even asked by those of us who already have known the media are liberal and Democratic.</p>
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		<title>By: Pyst</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pyst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 20:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe there are alot more paleo-conservatives out there than the media and the GOP realize? As far as ideological purity Paul is the closest thing to the Republicans of my youth (pre-Reagan), and the very idea floated by Wallace shows how far they have fallen from grace.

Rudi&#039;s 9/11 moment shows the GOP still doesn&#039;t understand nuance, and is why we are doomed to repeat the things that brought us to that point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe there are alot more paleo-conservatives out there than the media and the GOP realize? As far as ideological purity Paul is the closest thing to the Republicans of my youth (pre-Reagan), and the very idea floated by Wallace shows how far they have fallen from grace.</p>
<p>Rudi&#8217;s 9/11 moment shows the GOP still doesn&#8217;t understand nuance, and is why we are doomed to repeat the things that brought us to that point.</p>
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