Who: Peter Welch wants to hear why Vermonters support impeachment!
What: Public Forum to discuss Impeachment, the Constitution, and Democracy
Where: Hartford High School, White River Jct., Vermont
When: Saturday May 12, 11am-12:30pm
Why: The most corrupt administration in history continues to escalate its abuses of absolute power in the executive office. We, the people, need to escalate our dissent! This is our opportunity to tell Peter Welch to initiate investigation of Bush and Cheney and if the investigation supports the charges to impeach!

“Yes–important investigations are going on in Congress. But not quite all the right investigations,” said Liza Earle of Richmond, one of the organizers of the campaign for impeachment. “We want Peter Welch to take these investigations to the next level of accountability and help steer them to Bush and Cheney.”

“Right now Congress is conducting not one investigation of George W. Bush or Richard B. Cheney,” said James Marc Leas, another of the organizers. “Congress is acting as if Bush and Cheney are above the law. All the investigations concern underlings, like Alberto Gonzales and Condoleeza Rice, who, like Rumsfeld, can be replaced while the war, the torture, the spying without a warrant, the detentions without trial, and the lies continue. And while Bush and Cheney remain in power directing the killing, exposing our soldiers, and wasting our resources in a war based on lies. And while they plan further escalation.”

As a Democrat, I don’t think Pelosi should go back on her word. Its more important to judge the ’08 candidates by who would continue some of the disasterous policies that have been put in place, and who would change them. I would really like to see someone win who is more internationalist than neocon, as US standing in the world has plummeted by a mile.

Today’s headlines all read “Bush Told War is Harming the GOP”, so he is driving his own party off a cliff into oblivion. The Republicans are going to have a hard time overcoming this in ’08.

It is our money they are spending to do as they wish–to feed their chilling manifesto, “Project for the New American Century” (www.newamericancentury.org) . Go into most any public school, or senior care facility and you can see how our money is not being put to its best use. So little of our money gets to where it is most needed in our society.

We MUST impeach them now–Cheney first, then Bush. Then get behind David Walker, Comptroller General of the United States and head of the Government Accountability Office (www.gao.gov), and see how our common wealth is being spent, or often, mis-spent. We know what needs to be done so let’s get moving. Move On!

Our children are watching.

PS – Demand that PBS broadcast the BBC documentary by Adam Curtis, “The Power of Nightmares: The Rise of the Politics of Fear.”

I don’t see what good from come from this. There’s absolutely no way that the impeachment would ever deliver the votes to remove Bush or Cheney from office, and even if it did, the entire event would probably take about a year–if not more. The damage that this administration has been done, and removing Bush and/or Cheney from office six to twelve months before their term expires isn’t going to magically fix all that they’ve done. Worse, it threatens to distract from and undermine all efforts to end the war in Iraq.

Those who are calling for impeachment ought to direct their efforts towards concrete initiatives–not partisan fantasies that have no hope of coming to pass.

Ending the war this year could save hundreds–if not thousands–of American lives. Impeaching Bush and/or Cheney, on the other hand, wil not save a single American life and may even undermine support for ending the war and end up costing even more American lives.

This coincides with a report from the military that Petraeus will need them to stay until ’08. That may have been the impetus for the impromptu visit to the Oval Office by the GOPers. They may feel that Bush is just yanking their (and their constituents) chain on this war. Why else would they tell him his credibility is shot?

Even air strikes are not guaranteed.

Mission Accomplished!?! Sure glad the chickenhawks and neocons are being taken less and less seriously each and every day.
Amid GOP warnings, Bush threatens to veto new Iraq bill

… officials disclosed that 11 moderate House Republicans had met unannounced with the president and top aides at the White House on Tuesday. Several participants described a remarkably blunt discussion in which lawmakers told the president the war was unsustainable without public support and was having a corrosive effect on GOP political fortunes.

Rep. Charles Dent of Pennsylvania said he told the president that many of his constituents are “impatient, and in some cases have a sense of futility” about the war.

Rep. Tom Davis of Virginia said he presented recent polling data from his suburban Washington district showing Bush’s unfavorability ratings exceeded his approval ratings.

“We asked them what’s Plan B. We let them know that the status quo is not acceptable,” he said. Davis said the president responded that if he began discussing a new strategy, the current one would never have a chance to succeed.

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Republicans confront the President yesterday… Vice President goes to Iraq today… hummmm.

Less and less every day.

> The only danger I see is an invasion of Iran

Air strikes, maybe, but no big land operation. It’s 80 vs. 25 million people, much larger and tougher terrain, and a government that’s well-armed for conventional defense, not just the terrorism that has made it notorious for years.

Even air strikes are not guaranteed.

I don’t think there’s any momentum in Congress for impeaching Bush or Cheney either but it is rather telling to read the sterling tactics the right chooses to employ in defense of Bush and Cheney.

I actually think they deserve it, but that the environment in Washington would get even more poisonous than it is now. Its sort of the same rationale that Ford used for the Nixon pardon. The nation has to survive in one piece. That does not mean that individual organizations won’t continue to call for impeachment.

I wonder what the U.S. will look like when the Democratic party lead by the Moveon.org types are the one, dominate force in politics. The thought police will probably be a Cabinet post.

But having said that, I don’t believe Move On is motivated in any way by some desire to see a Democrat become President. I believe their opposition to the war is genuine, however strident and, perhaps, politically unwise. Conservatives and Republicans ought to acknowledge that there is a great deal of unhappiness over the war and its progress.

PS. It’s not the media’s fault either. Ya know?