Comments on: Bush Approval Rating Hits All Time Low In Wall Street Journal Poll http://themoderatevoice.com/12456/bush-approval-rating-hits-all-time-low-in-wall-street-journal-poll/ An Internet hub with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, indies, centrists, moderates, and right Wed, 15 Feb 2012 19:18:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: kritter http://themoderatevoice.com/12456/bush-approval-rating-hits-all-time-low-in-wall-street-journal-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-77739 kritter Fri, 27 Apr 2007 02:39:20 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/12456/bush-approval-rating-hits-all-time-low-in-wall-street-journal-poll/#comment-77739 DLS- Yes, I know its too ridiculous to expect an oilman to get us off of ME oil- especially with the Bush family connections to the Saudi royals! Also we got two for the price of one, when we got Cheney. Didn't they think Americans would have easy access to cheap Iraqi oil once the country became a democracy? If you don't think about how different their society is from ours, I guess it makes sense. But it didn't work out very well for the British who occupied in the 20's, then had to reinvade to keep Iraq from going fascist. Saddam was actually a fascist- baathism was modelled after Naziism. Uh oh - comment nanny will get me for using the N word 8) DLS- Yes, I know its too ridiculous to expect an oilman to get us off of ME oil- especially with the Bush family connections to the Saudi royals! Also we got two for the price of one, when we got Cheney. Didn’t they think Americans would have easy access to cheap Iraqi oil once the country became a democracy? If you don’t think about how different their society is from ours, I guess it makes sense. But it didn’t work out very well for the British who occupied in the 20′s, then had to reinvade to keep Iraq from going fascist. Saddam was actually a fascist- baathism was modelled after Naziism. Uh oh – comment nanny will get me for using the N word 8)

]]> By: DLS http://themoderatevoice.com/12456/bush-approval-rating-hits-all-time-low-in-wall-street-journal-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-77720 DLS Fri, 27 Apr 2007 01:08:46 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/12456/bush-approval-rating-hits-all-time-low-in-wall-street-journal-poll/#comment-77720 Chavez is getting the last laugh with all the money we spend here in the USA at Citgo. (8) Chavez is getting the last laugh with all the money we spend here in the USA at Citgo. (8)

]]> By: C Stanley http://themoderatevoice.com/12456/bush-approval-rating-hits-all-time-low-in-wall-street-journal-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-77706 C Stanley Fri, 27 Apr 2007 00:28:35 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/12456/bush-approval-rating-hits-all-time-low-in-wall-street-journal-poll/#comment-77706 Ha, I just had to laugh at the way the number eight followed by the close parentheses in the list above turned into a smilie emoticon wearing shades 8) Ha, I just had to laugh at the way the number eight followed by the close parentheses in the list above turned into a smilie emoticon wearing shades 8)

]]> By: ChuckPrez http://themoderatevoice.com/12456/bush-approval-rating-hits-all-time-low-in-wall-street-journal-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-77686 ChuckPrez Thu, 26 Apr 2007 23:23:05 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/12456/bush-approval-rating-hits-all-time-low-in-wall-street-journal-poll/#comment-77686 WOW WE ARE SO AWASH IN MIDDLE EAST OIL </sarcasm> WOW WE ARE SO AWASH IN MIDDLE EAST OIL

]]> By: DLS http://themoderatevoice.com/12456/bush-approval-rating-hits-all-time-low-in-wall-street-journal-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-77663 DLS Thu, 26 Apr 2007 22:21:39 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/12456/bush-approval-rating-hits-all-time-low-in-wall-street-journal-poll/#comment-77663 It was said: > most Americans don’t realize that > four of our top oil importers are: > > Canada > Mexico > Venezuela > Nigeria > > …and they tend to get mad when > you bring that up Thousand barrels per day Crude oil, year-to-date 2007 CANADA 1,847 MEXICO 1,398 SAUDI ARABIA 1,382 VENEZUELA 1,031 NIGERIA 1,085 ANGOLA 504 ALGERIA 474 IRAQ 433 Total petroleum, year-to-date 2007 [The number for Venezuela may be wrong] CANADA 2,430 MEXICO 1,538 VENEZUELA 1,270 SAUDI ARABIA 1,394 NIGERIA 1,120 ALGERIA 672 ANGOLA 522 IRAQ 433 http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/company_level_imports/current/import.html Top world oil net exporters, 2005 1) Saudi Arabia 9.1 2) Russia 6.7 3) Norway 2.7 4) Iran 2.6 5) United Arab Emirates 2.4 6) Nigeria 2.3 7) Kuwait 2.3 8) Venezuela 2.2 9) Algeria 1.8 10) Mexico 1.7 11) Libya 1.5 12) Iraq 1.3 http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/topworldtables1_2.html It was said:

> most Americans don’t realize that
> four of our top oil importers are:
>
> Canada
> Mexico
> Venezuela
> Nigeria
>
> …and they tend to get mad when
> you bring that up

Thousand barrels per day

Crude oil, year-to-date 2007

CANADA 1,847
MEXICO 1,398
SAUDI ARABIA 1,382
VENEZUELA 1,031
NIGERIA 1,085
ANGOLA 504
ALGERIA 474
IRAQ 433

Total petroleum, year-to-date 2007

[The number for Venezuela may be wrong]

CANADA 2,430
MEXICO 1,538
VENEZUELA 1,270
SAUDI ARABIA 1,394
NIGERIA 1,120
ALGERIA 672
ANGOLA 522
IRAQ 433

http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/company_level_imports/current/import.html

Top world oil net exporters, 2005

1) Saudi Arabia 9.1
2) Russia 6.7
3) Norway 2.7
4) Iran 2.6
5) United Arab Emirates 2.4
6) Nigeria 2.3
7) Kuwait 2.3
8) Venezuela 2.2
9) Algeria 1.8
10) Mexico 1.7
11) Libya 1.5
12) Iraq 1.3

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/topworldtables1_2.html

]]> By: DLS http://themoderatevoice.com/12456/bush-approval-rating-hits-all-time-low-in-wall-street-journal-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-77642 DLS Thu, 26 Apr 2007 21:33:35 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/12456/bush-approval-rating-hits-all-time-low-in-wall-street-journal-poll/#comment-77642 K. Ritter said: > if Bush had worked harder > to get us off ME oil- Bush -- oil interests above all else (including Israel in the Middle East)??? > invested much more in *** SPENT MUCH MORE ON *** > alternative fuels, Research would still take us years, decades, to yield results. There is no instant, magic solution with alternative fuels, any more than embryonic stem cell research is going to cure every known illness tomorrow if only we "invested in" [sic; spent more on] this research. (Hell, Amgen would take the results and develop drugs based on them and patent them, selling them for the equivalent of $500,000-1M per patient per year.) > raised the CAFE standards , > pushed the hybrids and > conservation. Conservation will not solve the problem any more than it will for electricity use and necessary future production. (Due to air pollution and cost issues, so much new power production is gas-fired. If anything, our gas usage will grow greatly in the years to come, including much new liquefied natural gas transport.) Hybrids are not yet perfect substitutes for conventional automobiles. CAFE standards -- raised to what level, something still realistic instead of ridiculous? Will the public buy what results, if anything can result? The automakers cannot instantly comply with any desired increase in the standards. And why would Bush, with oil interest ties, raise CAFE standards? K. Ritter said:

> if Bush had worked harder
> to get us off ME oil-

Bush — oil interests above all else (including Israel in the Middle East)???

> invested much more in

*** SPENT MUCH MORE ON ***

> alternative fuels,

Research would still take us years, decades, to yield results.

There is no instant, magic solution with alternative fuels, any more than embryonic stem cell research is going to cure every known illness tomorrow if only we “invested in” [sic; spent more on] this research. (Hell, Amgen would take the results and develop drugs based on them and patent them, selling them for the equivalent of $500,000-1M per patient per year.)

> raised the CAFE standards ,
> pushed the hybrids and
> conservation.

Conservation will not solve the problem any more than it will for electricity use and necessary future production. (Due to air pollution and cost issues, so much new power production is gas-fired. If anything, our gas usage will grow greatly in the years to come, including much new liquefied natural gas transport.)

Hybrids are not yet perfect substitutes for conventional automobiles.

CAFE standards — raised to what level, something still realistic instead of ridiculous? Will the public buy what results, if anything can result? The automakers cannot instantly comply with any desired increase in the standards. And why would Bush, with oil interest ties, raise CAFE standards?

]]> By: Sam http://themoderatevoice.com/12456/bush-approval-rating-hits-all-time-low-in-wall-street-journal-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-77624 Sam Thu, 26 Apr 2007 21:05:49 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/12456/bush-approval-rating-hits-all-time-low-in-wall-street-journal-poll/#comment-77624 "I would love to see a superimposed time line graph of the value of the Dow, the price of unleaded petrol, and the approval rating of the President. " I'd like a derivative of that graph. “I would love to see a superimposed time line graph of the value of the Dow, the price of unleaded petrol, and the approval rating of the President. ”

I’d like a derivative of that graph.

]]> By: kritter http://themoderatevoice.com/12456/bush-approval-rating-hits-all-time-low-in-wall-street-journal-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-77623 kritter Thu, 26 Apr 2007 21:05:29 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/12456/bush-approval-rating-hits-all-time-low-in-wall-street-journal-poll/#comment-77623 It would have been better if Bush had worked harder to get us off ME oil- invested much more in alternative fuels, raised the CAFE standards , pushed the hybrids and conservation. Our presence in the ME endangers us and the next generation. It would have been better if Bush had worked harder to get us off ME oil- invested much more in alternative fuels, raised the CAFE standards , pushed the hybrids and conservation. Our presence in the ME endangers us and the next generation.

]]> By: DLS http://themoderatevoice.com/12456/bush-approval-rating-hits-all-time-low-in-wall-street-journal-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-77553 DLS Thu, 26 Apr 2007 19:33:19 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/12456/bush-approval-rating-hits-all-time-low-in-wall-street-journal-poll/#comment-77553 OVERALL: Bush bad, Bush bad, Bush bad. Gee, who'd have guessed what Joe would have concluded. Polling data: http://www.pollingreport.com/ Iraq http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?ReportID=323 Dims http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?ReportID=315 US public wants deadline http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?ReportID=313 Trends in values and attitudes past 20 years Political landscape more favorable to Dimmies http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?ReportID=312 OVERALL: Bush bad, Bush bad, Bush bad. Gee, who’d have guessed what Joe would have concluded.

Polling data:

http://www.pollingreport.com/

Iraq

http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?ReportID=323

Dims

http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?ReportID=315

US public wants deadline

http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?ReportID=313

Trends in values and attitudes past 20 years

Political landscape more favorable to Dimmies

http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?ReportID=312

]]> By: Chuck Prez http://themoderatevoice.com/12456/bush-approval-rating-hits-all-time-low-in-wall-street-journal-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-77552 Chuck Prez Thu, 26 Apr 2007 19:31:24 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/12456/bush-approval-rating-hits-all-time-low-in-wall-street-journal-poll/#comment-77552 Although, Brian...most Americans don't realize that four of our top oil importers are: Canada Mexico Venezuela Nigeria ...and they tend to get mad when you bring that up. Although, Brian…most Americans don’t realize that four of our top oil importers are:

Canada
Mexico
Venezuela
Nigeria

…and they tend to get mad when you bring that up.

]]> By: Brian http://themoderatevoice.com/12456/bush-approval-rating-hits-all-time-low-in-wall-street-journal-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-77528 Brian Thu, 26 Apr 2007 18:46:11 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/12456/bush-approval-rating-hits-all-time-low-in-wall-street-journal-poll/#comment-77528 I give Bush a lot of credit. He has been steadfast and resolute. This whole thing is painful to watch. Let's be clear - Americans don't have a very good record in terms of results when actually getting what they have asked for. Remember health care? Most Americans resented the system as it was and wanted change. Now all I hear from people is how much better it was before. As for Iraq, when gasoline prices end up at 7 or 8 bucks a gallon after a Middle East meltdown after a troop pull-out, Americans will blame everyone but themselves. The problem in this country is that many Americans are not only short-sighted, but have short memories as well. I give Bush a lot of credit. He has been steadfast and resolute. This whole thing is painful to watch. Let’s be clear – Americans don’t have a very good record in terms of results when actually getting what they have asked for. Remember health care? Most Americans resented the system as it was and wanted change. Now all I hear from people is how much better it was before. As for Iraq, when gasoline prices end up at 7 or 8 bucks a gallon after a Middle East meltdown after a troop pull-out, Americans will blame everyone but themselves. The problem in this country is that many Americans are not only short-sighted, but have short memories as well.

]]> By: shaun http://themoderatevoice.com/12456/bush-approval-rating-hits-all-time-low-in-wall-street-journal-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-77477 shaun Thu, 26 Apr 2007 16:21:09 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/12456/bush-approval-rating-hits-all-time-low-in-wall-street-journal-poll/#comment-77477 Polls are merely snapshots in time. One reads too much into them at their own peril. Polls are merely snapshots in time. One reads too much into them at their own peril.

]]> By: casualobserver http://themoderatevoice.com/12456/bush-approval-rating-hits-all-time-low-in-wall-street-journal-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-77473 casualobserver Thu, 26 Apr 2007 16:13:18 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/12456/bush-approval-rating-hits-all-time-low-in-wall-street-journal-poll/#comment-77473 mikkel Says: April 26th, 2007 at 7:19 am I think the best place to get the clearest picture is at pollster.com. And I would argue the "best place" is any newstand on November 5, 2008. In the interim, the preoccupation with "approving/disapproving" of Bush, specifically, likely clouds the items that will actually be subject to voter decision. mikkel Says:

April 26th, 2007 at 7:19 am
I think the best place to get the clearest picture is at pollster.com.

And I would argue the “best place” is any newstand on November 5, 2008.

In the interim, the preoccupation with “approving/disapproving” of Bush, specifically, likely clouds the items that will actually be subject to voter decision.

]]> By: Chuck Prez http://themoderatevoice.com/12456/bush-approval-rating-hits-all-time-low-in-wall-street-journal-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-77461 Chuck Prez Thu, 26 Apr 2007 15:10:57 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/12456/bush-approval-rating-hits-all-time-low-in-wall-street-journal-poll/#comment-77461 Proof positive that both the Dems and Repubs are screwing up royally as usual... But y'all bammas can argue "It's the Dems' fault" and "It's the Repubs' fault" all y'all want...have fun running around in circles in y'alls finger pointing contest. Proof positive that both the Dems and Repubs are screwing up royally as usual…

But y’all bammas can argue “It’s the Dems’ fault” and “It’s the Repubs’ fault” all y’all want…have fun running around in circles in y’alls finger pointing contest.

]]> By: Daniel CAZ Greenberg http://themoderatevoice.com/12456/bush-approval-rating-hits-all-time-low-in-wall-street-journal-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-77458 Daniel CAZ Greenberg Thu, 26 Apr 2007 15:02:35 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/12456/bush-approval-rating-hits-all-time-low-in-wall-street-journal-poll/#comment-77458 I would love to see a superimposed time line graph of the value of the Dow, the price of unleaded petrol, and the approval rating of the President. I would love to see a superimposed time line graph of the value of the Dow, the price of unleaded petrol, and the approval rating of the President.

]]> By: White Agent http://themoderatevoice.com/12456/bush-approval-rating-hits-all-time-low-in-wall-street-journal-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-77446 White Agent Thu, 26 Apr 2007 14:42:03 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/12456/bush-approval-rating-hits-all-time-low-in-wall-street-journal-poll/#comment-77446 Its a skewed poll. It is intended to sell out Bush in the hopes that people will believe that the new Democrat congress is not popular. The new congress is popular. Furthermore, the more this congress does to apply pressure on Bush to end the war in Iraq, the more popular it becomes. The Wall Street Journal? Really, like they are not republican biased. What a joke. Its a skewed poll. It is intended to sell out Bush in the hopes that people will believe that the new Democrat congress is not popular. The new congress is popular. Furthermore, the more this congress does to apply pressure on Bush to end the war in Iraq, the more popular it becomes.

The Wall Street Journal? Really, like they are not republican biased. What a joke.

]]> By: mikkel http://themoderatevoice.com/12456/bush-approval-rating-hits-all-time-low-in-wall-street-journal-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-77442 mikkel Thu, 26 Apr 2007 14:19:58 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/12456/bush-approval-rating-hits-all-time-low-in-wall-street-journal-poll/#comment-77442 I think the best place to get the clearest picture is at <a href="www.pollster.com" rel="nofollow">pollster.com</a>. According to that both Congress and Bush are currently rising (and the WSJ poll is definitely an outlier at this point....but who knows it could portend things to come). I think the best place to get the clearest picture is at pollster.com. According to that both Congress and Bush are currently rising (and the WSJ poll is definitely an outlier at this point….but who knows it could portend things to come).

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