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		<title>By: Rudi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 04:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Annie - I don&#039;t recall if your a regular here, but Mikkel and I were being a little satiric. I would venture to say we both support the Tillam family 110%. For someone to giveup a NFL carreer and join the military even though he &quot;detests&quot; the ChimpinChief is admirable. It&#039;s a shame some of the young chickenhawks here and aboard don&#039;t sign up to fight in a war they wet their pants over. I am a proud liberal...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Annie &#8211; I don&#8217;t recall if your a regular here, but Mikkel and I were being a little satiric. I would venture to say we both support the Tillam family 110%. For someone to giveup a NFL carreer and join the military even though he &#8220;detests&#8221; the ChimpinChief is admirable. It&#8217;s a shame some of the young chickenhawks here and aboard don&#8217;t sign up to fight in a war they wet their pants over. I am a proud liberal&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Clarissa Pinkola EstÃ©s</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Clarissa Pinkola EstÃ©s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 04:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dear kritter: You asked &quot;...have they even apologized to the Tillmans for compounding their terrible loss with all of those lies?...

I do not know if the people in charge have aplogized to Ranger Tillman&#039;s family. It could be that many have apologized privately, for many many in the military are decent souls of conscience. 

But, there is a litigation factor that the brass would also be watching carefully...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dear kritter: You asked &#8220;&#8230;have they even apologized to the Tillmans for compounding their terrible loss with all of those lies?&#8230;</p>
<p>I do not know if the people in charge have aplogized to Ranger Tillman&#8217;s family. It could be that many have apologized privately, for many many in the military are decent souls of conscience. </p>
<p>But, there is a litigation factor that the brass would also be watching carefully&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Clarissa Pinkola EstÃ©s</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Clarissa Pinkola EstÃ©s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 03:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Nobody: I truly wish it were so that health care for vets was much better than that of the general population. 

My personal experience at VA hospitals as many stand today: The god of white glove inspection might have sudden apoplexy. There might be a brand new computer on the desk but amidst dingy surroundings, pillars and other impossible to clean high ceilings with their carved heroic architecture, and often years of smoke, with under funded new projects using new equipment sometimes, but also â€˜good enoughâ€™ equipment and in some cases, obsolete Government Issue equipment. 

To me, the most miraculous thing is that many, many, esp the young docs and PAs and nurses are often enthusiastic, and try hard to help all they can. 

Regardless, it still stands: Some patients receive care, some donâ€™t. Some wait. And wait. Some die while they are waiting. Some die ..from.. having been made to wait. 

Not the most rad hospital in the world is going to cure or help agent orange exposure with all its attendant debilitations if the Government refuses to recognize it as a deteriorative, life-thieving illness.

In the article link to the LA Times that you mentioned, I can see how hopeful that would be were it true. I am not certain, but there is a vagueness to the &#039;studyâ€™ cited in the article.. I think it reads to me that way because as far as I can tell, the &#039;study&#039; seems to be missing, amongst other markers, a precise control group(s) study with other hospitals at depth. I also see no longevity armature. It is hard to see this document as pure evidence-based science. 

Likely unbeknownst to the reader. The &quot;Institute of Medicine,&quot; which is the sole source for the LA Times article, (you gave the link to, thank you) on how much better VA hospitals are than &#039;regular&#039; hospitals...  although not stated in the article, the â€œInstitute of Medicine,â€? appears to be part of the &quot;National Academy of Sciences,&quot; which is an United States Government funded Institute  for the most part, with some meager &#039;matching grant&#039; monies in comparison, given by the Kellogg Company and a couple other corporate groups. 

That the article says the â€˜Institute of Medicineâ€™ is consulted by the US Congress on matters of health et al, but without revealing the Institute of Medicine ..is.. the Government itself, well, it seems an odd way to present what is supposed to be seen as an independent authority.

Here is the intro to the bill which enacted the parent group for the Institute of Medicine: 

&quot;An Act to Incorporate the National Academy of Sciences
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled...&quot; etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Nobody: I truly wish it were so that health care for vets was much better than that of the general population. </p>
<p>My personal experience at VA hospitals as many stand today: The god of white glove inspection might have sudden apoplexy. There might be a brand new computer on the desk but amidst dingy surroundings, pillars and other impossible to clean high ceilings with their carved heroic architecture, and often years of smoke, with under funded new projects using new equipment sometimes, but also â€˜good enoughâ€™ equipment and in some cases, obsolete Government Issue equipment. </p>
<p>To me, the most miraculous thing is that many, many, esp the young docs and PAs and nurses are often enthusiastic, and try hard to help all they can. </p>
<p>Regardless, it still stands: Some patients receive care, some donâ€™t. Some wait. And wait. Some die while they are waiting. Some die ..from.. having been made to wait. </p>
<p>Not the most rad hospital in the world is going to cure or help agent orange exposure with all its attendant debilitations if the Government refuses to recognize it as a deteriorative, life-thieving illness.</p>
<p>In the article link to the LA Times that you mentioned, I can see how hopeful that would be were it true. I am not certain, but there is a vagueness to the &#8216;studyâ€™ cited in the article.. I think it reads to me that way because as far as I can tell, the &#8216;study&#8217; seems to be missing, amongst other markers, a precise control group(s) study with other hospitals at depth. I also see no longevity armature. It is hard to see this document as pure evidence-based science. </p>
<p>Likely unbeknownst to the reader. The &#8220;Institute of Medicine,&#8221; which is the sole source for the LA Times article, (you gave the link to, thank you) on how much better VA hospitals are than &#8216;regular&#8217; hospitals&#8230;  although not stated in the article, the â€œInstitute of Medicine,â€? appears to be part of the &#8220;National Academy of Sciences,&#8221; which is an United States Government funded Institute  for the most part, with some meager &#8216;matching grant&#8217; monies in comparison, given by the Kellogg Company and a couple other corporate groups. </p>
<p>That the article says the â€˜Institute of Medicineâ€™ is consulted by the US Congress on matters of health et al, but without revealing the Institute of Medicine ..is.. the Government itself, well, it seems an odd way to present what is supposed to be seen as an independent authority.</p>
<p>Here is the intro to the bill which enacted the parent group for the Institute of Medicine: </p>
<p>&#8220;An Act to Incorporate the National Academy of Sciences<br />
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled&#8230;&#8221; etc.</p>
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		<title>By: kritter</title>
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		<dc:creator>kritter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 03:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr E. Thank you for the update on Ms. Lynch&#039;s condition- I don&#039;t think that she is going to be living in the lap of luxury. Not too many of us would happily endure the pain and suffering she has to every day, and deal with a  disability so cheerfully. I wish her well, and am grateful for her service and her testimony to the committee. It must have been a relief to finally tell the truth. 

The Pentagon&#039;s lies have backfired on them after all- have they even apologized to the Tillmans for compounding their terrible loss with all of those lies?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr E. Thank you for the update on Ms. Lynch&#8217;s condition- I don&#8217;t think that she is going to be living in the lap of luxury. Not too many of us would happily endure the pain and suffering she has to every day, and deal with a  disability so cheerfully. I wish her well, and am grateful for her service and her testimony to the committee. It must have been a relief to finally tell the truth. </p>
<p>The Pentagon&#8217;s lies have backfired on them after all- have they even apologized to the Tillmans for compounding their terrible loss with all of those lies?</p>
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		<title>By: Nobody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nobody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 02:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THE TYPICAL hospital patient is given the wrong medication or the wrong dose at least once a day, according to the Institute of Medicine, a research organization that advises Congress. The good news is that these mistakes are less likely to happen at a hospital run by the Department of Veterans Affairs.

Surprised?

Recent news accounts about the shameful conditions at Walter Reed Army Medical Center â€” a hospital unaffiliated with the Department of Veterans Affairs â€” might lead you to believe that VA hospitals are a national embarrassment. That may have been true at one time. But VA hospitals have undergone a remarkable turnaround in the last decade and, on average, earn higher marks for patient safety and quality of care than most other hospitals in the United States.

For example, the VA system is well ahead of most hospitals in protecting patients from medication errors. The VA has adopted a system in which a nurse scans a barcode printed on the patient&#039;s bracelet, indicating the name and dose of each medication the patient should be getting. The nurse then scans the pre-packaged medication to make sure it&#039;s a match.

Read all about it at the LA Times.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-mccaughey2apr02,0,3030928.story?coll=la-opinion-rightrail</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THE TYPICAL hospital patient is given the wrong medication or the wrong dose at least once a day, according to the Institute of Medicine, a research organization that advises Congress. The good news is that these mistakes are less likely to happen at a hospital run by the Department of Veterans Affairs.</p>
<p>Surprised?</p>
<p>Recent news accounts about the shameful conditions at Walter Reed Army Medical Center â€” a hospital unaffiliated with the Department of Veterans Affairs â€” might lead you to believe that VA hospitals are a national embarrassment. That may have been true at one time. But VA hospitals have undergone a remarkable turnaround in the last decade and, on average, earn higher marks for patient safety and quality of care than most other hospitals in the United States.</p>
<p>For example, the VA system is well ahead of most hospitals in protecting patients from medication errors. The VA has adopted a system in which a nurse scans a barcode printed on the patient&#8217;s bracelet, indicating the name and dose of each medication the patient should be getting. The nurse then scans the pre-packaged medication to make sure it&#8217;s a match.</p>
<p>Read all about it at the LA Times.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-mccaughey2apr02,0,3030928.story?coll=la-opinion-rightrail" rel="nofollow">http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-mccaughey2apr02,0,3030928.story?coll=la-opinion-rightrail</a></p>
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		<title>By: White Agent</title>
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		<dc:creator>White Agent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 00:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I told you that military lifers are corrupt bastards barely worth wiping your arse on. Now you know why.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I told you that military lifers are corrupt bastards barely worth wiping your arse on. Now you know why.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr.e</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr.e</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 00:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hello dear writers... thank you for your thoughtful comments. I&#039;ve been working on a short piece on Ranger Pat Tillman for some days now. I am a slow writer due to my dyslexia (it looks like lexdyxia to me... ) but ...soon, I hope. Thank you for caring about other human beings. Regardless of what tack anyone takes, I can see that in your posts

Just a comment about one of the comments above; the book contract was reported to be 1M, true, and in the same report it noted that half went to the writer, and half to Pfc. Lynch who told her story to the writer. 

After the take of foreign and domestic agents, and Uncle Sugar&#039;s tax cut re windfalls, I think that Pfc. Lynch&#039;s share would have maybe just been under $200,000...that is, if some foreign countries where the book was published didn&#039;t also take taxes out too. 

My personal knowledge of the military is that veteran&#039;s benefits for the disabled are often not only grotesquely delayed, the government budget side often argues hot with its own vets who have served, about whether they are worthy of continuing treatment or not. (Think mustard gas, think Kuwait oil fire, think agent orange... just to name a few)

If a soldier is not a CO, if his or her family has no &#039;contacts...&#039; which is very often the case in the military... if the cameras have gone home and are no longer &#039;watching&#039; what happens at VA hospitals here and overseas... a war veteran has to confront &quot;the battle after the battle&quot;, that is, they have to fight all over again just to receive the rights promised when he or she enlisted... especially those vets with painful lifelong conditions from war injuries... conditions that often deteriorate and devolve over time. 

Pfc Lynch had her legs, arms and spine broken and shattered...  over her lifetime there may indeed be additional deterioration of bone mass  and limb function... The way I see it for now, is she has a chance at reconstructive surgery by a civie surgeon and one week in the hospital recovering... which could eat up 200k and much more. 

She&#039;s one of the fortunate few who has &#039;resources&#039; by the luck of the draw. She can cut through military red tape and can help tend to her own health at least until the $ runs out...  rather than having to wait possibly months and months and even years to get cleared through unbelievable amounts of military red tape in order to have what was promised when every civilian enlisted: more than minimalist health care...and for life. 

Read about the cuts in GI benefits from 1950 onward and to date. I think one of the biggest questions for various military persons and thinkers, is yes, one about fair compensation, meaning, how can the USA government break its troth with its war vets who have given all of body, bones, blood and mind that they&#039;ve got?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hello dear writers&#8230; thank you for your thoughtful comments. I&#8217;ve been working on a short piece on Ranger Pat Tillman for some days now. I am a slow writer due to my dyslexia (it looks like lexdyxia to me&#8230; ) but &#8230;soon, I hope. Thank you for caring about other human beings. Regardless of what tack anyone takes, I can see that in your posts</p>
<p>Just a comment about one of the comments above; the book contract was reported to be 1M, true, and in the same report it noted that half went to the writer, and half to Pfc. Lynch who told her story to the writer. </p>
<p>After the take of foreign and domestic agents, and Uncle Sugar&#8217;s tax cut re windfalls, I think that Pfc. Lynch&#8217;s share would have maybe just been under $200,000&#8230;that is, if some foreign countries where the book was published didn&#8217;t also take taxes out too. </p>
<p>My personal knowledge of the military is that veteran&#8217;s benefits for the disabled are often not only grotesquely delayed, the government budget side often argues hot with its own vets who have served, about whether they are worthy of continuing treatment or not. (Think mustard gas, think Kuwait oil fire, think agent orange&#8230; just to name a few)</p>
<p>If a soldier is not a CO, if his or her family has no &#8216;contacts&#8230;&#8217; which is very often the case in the military&#8230; if the cameras have gone home and are no longer &#8216;watching&#8217; what happens at VA hospitals here and overseas&#8230; a war veteran has to confront &#8220;the battle after the battle&#8221;, that is, they have to fight all over again just to receive the rights promised when he or she enlisted&#8230; especially those vets with painful lifelong conditions from war injuries&#8230; conditions that often deteriorate and devolve over time. </p>
<p>Pfc Lynch had her legs, arms and spine broken and shattered&#8230;  over her lifetime there may indeed be additional deterioration of bone mass  and limb function&#8230; The way I see it for now, is she has a chance at reconstructive surgery by a civie surgeon and one week in the hospital recovering&#8230; which could eat up 200k and much more. </p>
<p>She&#8217;s one of the fortunate few who has &#8216;resources&#8217; by the luck of the draw. She can cut through military red tape and can help tend to her own health at least until the $ runs out&#8230;  rather than having to wait possibly months and months and even years to get cleared through unbelievable amounts of military red tape in order to have what was promised when every civilian enlisted: more than minimalist health care&#8230;and for life. </p>
<p>Read about the cuts in GI benefits from 1950 onward and to date. I think one of the biggest questions for various military persons and thinkers, is yes, one about fair compensation, meaning, how can the USA government break its troth with its war vets who have given all of body, bones, blood and mind that they&#8217;ve got?</p>
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		<title>By: Annie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Annie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 21:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mikkel Says: 

April 25th, 2007 at 9:09 am 
But Rudi, Patâ€™s [fellow Ranger in a convoy merely hundreds of yards behind him when he died] brother is â€œan antiwar activist who has posted on far-left web sitesâ€?; the family is a bunch of atheists; and even worse, they were both against the war in Iraq! You obviously canâ€™t trust these people who are doing all this for blatantly political purposes. 

I am a Christian from the UK. The fact that Tillman&#039;s family may be atheists  is irrelevant to the discussion. Bush, Blair and Saddam are (or were in Saddam&#039;s case) all theists but that doesn&#039;t make any of them truthful as we all know. Bush and Blair and their supportes have lied repeatedly on many aspects of the so-called War on terrorism and have allowed thousands of innnocent Muslim civilians to suffer appallingly.   

Pat Tillman&#039;s bother is a brave man. He fought in Afganistan with the military and is now  fighting the right wing extremists in the US government and media.  He is the type of guy that gives me hope that not all Americans are as ignorant as we in Europe perceive them to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mikkel Says: </p>
<p>April 25th, 2007 at 9:09 am<br />
But Rudi, Patâ€™s [fellow Ranger in a convoy merely hundreds of yards behind him when he died] brother is â€œan antiwar activist who has posted on far-left web sitesâ€?; the family is a bunch of atheists; and even worse, they were both against the war in Iraq! You obviously canâ€™t trust these people who are doing all this for blatantly political purposes. </p>
<p>I am a Christian from the UK. The fact that Tillman&#8217;s family may be atheists  is irrelevant to the discussion. Bush, Blair and Saddam are (or were in Saddam&#8217;s case) all theists but that doesn&#8217;t make any of them truthful as we all know. Bush and Blair and their supportes have lied repeatedly on many aspects of the so-called War on terrorism and have allowed thousands of innnocent Muslim civilians to suffer appallingly.   </p>
<p>Pat Tillman&#8217;s bother is a brave man. He fought in Afganistan with the military and is now  fighting the right wing extremists in the US government and media.  He is the type of guy that gives me hope that not all Americans are as ignorant as we in Europe perceive them to be.</p>
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		<title>By: Rudi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 18:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mikkel - Cernig at Newhoggs has a post about the issue. It wasn&#039;t settled voluntarily, it took a court case I believe. If you aren&#039;t a reader of Newshoggs  I would recommend you check it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mikkel &#8211; Cernig at Newhoggs has a post about the issue. It wasn&#8217;t settled voluntarily, it took a court case I believe. If you aren&#8217;t a reader of Newshoggs  I would recommend you check it out.</p>
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		<title>By: mikkel</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikkel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 17:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rudi I think the Wiccan thing was &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/23/AR2007042302073.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;just recently settled.&lt;/a&gt; (Recently as in two days ago).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rudi I think the Wiccan thing was <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/23/AR2007042302073.html" rel="nofollow">just recently settled.</a> (Recently as in two days ago).</p>
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		<title>By: Rudi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 16:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Domajat - Watch the hearings on Monday at CSPAN. The Pentagon spuns this like a top. The stories of the people I listed above are well documented. Walters is the &quot;blond hero&quot;, the Iraqis propaganda machine mentions Walters, what is unclear is how the translation was screwed up. Miller earned his Silver Star, Lynch&#039;s Bronze Star makes for good Hollywood script. Where are the Swiftboat crowds complaints for phony medals in this story?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Domajat &#8211; Watch the hearings on Monday at CSPAN. The Pentagon spuns this like a top. The stories of the people I listed above are well documented. Walters is the &#8220;blond hero&#8221;, the Iraqis propaganda machine mentions Walters, what is unclear is how the translation was screwed up. Miller earned his Silver Star, Lynch&#8217;s Bronze Star makes for good Hollywood script. Where are the Swiftboat crowds complaints for phony medals in this story?</p>
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		<title>By: Rudi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 16:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is Pfc. Nattalee Holoway a hero and not this group, who actually were wounded by enemy fire or killed.
Sgt. Donald Walters
Pfc. Patrick Miller
SPC Shoshana Johnson
SPC Lori Ann Piestewa
Seems a teen from Alabama missing from Carlos and Charlies is better press.  A Hopi Indian or ethnic Panamanian woman soldier wouldn&#039;t make a story that Hilary Swank could star in.

mikkel - When Wiccans die in the war their  monument at military cemetaries can&#039;t uses their symbol, Pat &quot;Daddy get me out of Korea&quot; Robertson doesn&#039;t like those Pagans,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is Pfc. Nattalee Holoway a hero and not this group, who actually were wounded by enemy fire or killed.<br />
Sgt. Donald Walters<br />
Pfc. Patrick Miller<br />
SPC Shoshana Johnson<br />
SPC Lori Ann Piestewa<br />
Seems a teen from Alabama missing from Carlos and Charlies is better press.  A Hopi Indian or ethnic Panamanian woman soldier wouldn&#8217;t make a story that Hilary Swank could star in.</p>
<p>mikkel &#8211; When Wiccans die in the war their  monument at military cemetaries can&#8217;t uses their symbol, Pat &#8220;Daddy get me out of Korea&#8221; Robertson doesn&#8217;t like those Pagans,</p>
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		<title>By: domajot</title>
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		<dc:creator>domajot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 16:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As DAN points out, it may well be true that Jessica has not been perfect.  There are already a number of bloggers heaping scorn on her (themselves being saintly in every respect, of course).
Here is a very young woman caught up in traumatic events who is trying to tell the truth as she knows it.  That is the only message here.
No one really knows the details of who did what behind the scenes.
To spin this in service of politics, right or left, throws mud on this rate moment of truth telling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As DAN points out, it may well be true that Jessica has not been perfect.  There are already a number of bloggers heaping scorn on her (themselves being saintly in every respect, of course).<br />
Here is a very young woman caught up in traumatic events who is trying to tell the truth as she knows it.  That is the only message here.<br />
No one really knows the details of who did what behind the scenes.<br />
To spin this in service of politics, right or left, throws mud on this rate moment of truth telling.</p>
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		<title>By: mikkel</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikkel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 16:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But Rudi, Pat&#039;s [fellow Ranger in a convoy merely hundreds of yards behind him when he died] brother is &lt;a href=&quot;http://powerlineblog.com/archives/017435.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;an antiwar activist who has posted on far-left web sites&quot;&lt;/a&gt;; the family is a bunch of &lt;a href=&quot;http://atrios.blogspot.com/2007_04_22_archive.html#4741965420177133870&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;atheists&lt;/a&gt;; and even worse, they were both against the war in Iraq! You obviously can&#039;t trust these people who are doing all this for blatantly political purposes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But Rudi, Pat&#8217;s [fellow Ranger in a convoy merely hundreds of yards behind him when he died] brother is <a href="http://powerlineblog.com/archives/017435.php" rel="nofollow">&#8220;an antiwar activist who has posted on far-left web sites&#8221;</a>; the family is a bunch of <a href="http://atrios.blogspot.com/2007_04_22_archive.html#4741965420177133870" rel="nofollow">atheists</a>; and even worse, they were both against the war in Iraq! You obviously can&#8217;t trust these people who are doing all this for blatantly political purposes.</p>
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		<title>By: Rudi</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/12428/jessica-lynch-storytelling-war-media-iraq-military-army-injury/comment-page-1/#comment-77105</link>
		<dc:creator>Rudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 16:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the UK Guardians take on the Lynch story.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,956255,00.html
&lt;blockquote&gt;Wren yesterday described the Lynch incident as &quot;hugely overblown&quot; and symptomatic of a bigger problem. &quot;The Americans never got out there and explained what was going on in the war,&quot; he said. &quot;All they needed to be was open and honest. They were too vague, too scared of engaging with the media.&quot; He said US journalists &quot;did not put them under pressure&quot;.

Wren, who had been seconded to the Ministry of Defence, said he tried on several occasions to persuade Wilkinson and Brooks to change tack. In London, Campbell did the same with the White House, to no avail. &quot;The American media didn&#039;t put them under pressure so they were allowed to get away with it,&quot; Wren said. &quot;They didn&#039;t feel they needed to change.&quot; &lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the UK Guardians take on the Lynch story.<br />
<a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,956255,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,956255,00.html</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Wren yesterday described the Lynch incident as &#8220;hugely overblown&#8221; and symptomatic of a bigger problem. &#8220;The Americans never got out there and explained what was going on in the war,&#8221; he said. &#8220;All they needed to be was open and honest. They were too vague, too scared of engaging with the media.&#8221; He said US journalists &#8220;did not put them under pressure&#8221;.</p>
<p>Wren, who had been seconded to the Ministry of Defence, said he tried on several occasions to persuade Wilkinson and Brooks to change tack. In London, Campbell did the same with the White House, to no avail. &#8220;The American media didn&#8217;t put them under pressure so they were allowed to get away with it,&#8221; Wren said. &#8220;They didn&#8217;t feel they needed to change.&#8221; </p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Rudi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 15:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I watched some of the testimony last night on CSPAN. Lynch didn&#039;t follow the script, even more damaging to the Rummy crowd was the Tillman family. The family has a history of fighting and serving our country and they were ANGRY at being used and lied to. Pat Tillmans service in itself was heroic, the Pentagon and Lincoln Group using his death for propaganda was criminal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched some of the testimony last night on CSPAN. Lynch didn&#8217;t follow the script, even more damaging to the Rummy crowd was the Tillman family. The family has a history of fighting and serving our country and they were ANGRY at being used and lied to. Pat Tillmans service in itself was heroic, the Pentagon and Lincoln Group using his death for propaganda was criminal.</p>
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		<title>By: Rudi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 15:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan and causual - You both sound like Cheetos eating chickenhawks.
What I found interesting is that the military delayed the rescue ONE DAY to getting the film crew ready for the rescue. If the young woman was being abused or threatened with rape why the delay for a photo op. The Lincoln Group is still over there writing for Pravda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan and causual &#8211; You both sound like Cheetos eating chickenhawks.<br />
What I found interesting is that the military delayed the rescue ONE DAY to getting the film crew ready for the rescue. If the young woman was being abused or threatened with rape why the delay for a photo op. The Lincoln Group is still over there writing for Pravda.</p>
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		<title>By: kritter</title>
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		<dc:creator>kritter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 15:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Casual-If its not a lie why doesn&#039;t Rumsfeld come and give sworn testimony before the congressional committee? And the elections are 18 months away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Casual-If its not a lie why doesn&#8217;t Rumsfeld come and give sworn testimony before the congressional committee? And the elections are 18 months away.</p>
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		<title>By: casualobserver</title>
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		<dc:creator>casualobserver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 15:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By Susan Schmidt and Vernon Loeb
THE WASHINGTON POST
April 3 

&quot;Several officials cautioned that the precise sequence of events is still being determined, and that further information will emerge as Lynch is debriefed. Reports thus far are based on battlefield intelligence, they say, which comes from monitored communications and from Iraqi sources in Nasiriyah whose reliability has yet to be assessed. Pentagon officials said they had heard â€œrumorsâ€? of Lynchâ€™s heroics but had no confirmation. &quot;


So now, because the WaPo spoke to some unnamed &quot;official&quot; in the Pentagon, and blasted a front page story about something that was never confirmed, in fact was downplayed by the Pentagon, the military (and Rumsfeld) is being charged with lying about Lynch&#039;s capture?...........

A new play called &quot;Revisionist History&quot; is now playing at Washington D.C.&#039;s Political Grandstanding Theater just in time for elections. Call early for the best seating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By Susan Schmidt and Vernon Loeb<br />
THE WASHINGTON POST<br />
April 3 </p>
<p>&#8220;Several officials cautioned that the precise sequence of events is still being determined, and that further information will emerge as Lynch is debriefed. Reports thus far are based on battlefield intelligence, they say, which comes from monitored communications and from Iraqi sources in Nasiriyah whose reliability has yet to be assessed. Pentagon officials said they had heard â€œrumorsâ€? of Lynchâ€™s heroics but had no confirmation. &#8221;</p>
<p>So now, because the WaPo spoke to some unnamed &#8220;official&#8221; in the Pentagon, and blasted a front page story about something that was never confirmed, in fact was downplayed by the Pentagon, the military (and Rumsfeld) is being charged with lying about Lynch&#8217;s capture?&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>A new play called &#8220;Revisionist History&#8221; is now playing at Washington D.C.&#8217;s Political Grandstanding Theater just in time for elections. Call early for the best seating.</p>
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		<title>By: Lesley Chambers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lesley Chambers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 14:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the humble viewpoint of an ordinary News viewer in the UK, Jessica Lynch was not a hero in the Middle East - she is now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the humble viewpoint of an ordinary News viewer in the UK, Jessica Lynch was not a hero in the Middle East &#8211; she is now!</p>
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