Not only are these republicans corrupt and idiotic, they are cry babies as well!

The eyewitness remembers it a bit differently. Immediately after Dowd’s introduction, the witness says, David began lecturing Rove about global warming. This administration has done nothing on the issue, she told Rove. We face a crisis. The time to act is now. This administration has done nothing…

At that point, Rove broke in to say, Well, actually we have done something. Rove mentioned global climate research, at which point David broke in herself to say, You just don’t understand. All these questions have been answered. That’s worthless. That’s useless.

In their account, David and Crow write, “We reminded the senior White House advisor that the U.S. leads the world in global warming pollution and we are doing the least about it. Anger flaring, Mr. Rove immediately regurgitated the official Administration position on global warming which is that the US spends more on researching the causes than any other country.”

The eyewitness says Rove asked David if she had read the IPCC report, referring to the United Nations’ Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which, while confirming a human role in climate change, substantially undermines some of the most catastrophic charges made in Al Gore’s “An Inconvenient Truth,” which David produced. David said she had read the report. “We felt compelled to remind him that the research is done and the results [the IPCC report] are in,” David and Crow write. “Mr. Rove exploded with even more venom. Like a spoiled child throwing a tantrum, Mr. Rove launched into a series of illogical arguments regarding China not doing enough thus neither should we. (Since when do we follow China’s lead?)”

In the eyewitness’ version, again, David and Crow are a bit more aggressive than their own story suggests. The eyewitness says David told Rove, You need to bring in new people to tell you the truth. Rove mentioned Dr. John Marburger, the White House science advisor. At that point, according to the eyewitness, Crow began poking Rove’s chest with her finger, demanding to know what corporations were underwriting Marburger’s work. Rove said Marburger had been in academia most of his career.

With Crow jabbing him in the chest, Rove turned to take his seat. Then, the witness says, Crow grabbed his arm. A few more words were exchanged, and it was over. At the Huffington Post, David and Crow described the ending this way: “In his attempt to dismiss us, Mr. Rove turned to head toward his table, but as soon as he did so, Sheryl reached out to touch his arm. Karl swung around and spat, ‘Don’t touch me.’ How hardened and removed from reality must a person be to refuse to be touched by Sheryl Crow? Unfazed, Sheryl abruptly responded, ‘You can’t speak to us like that, you work for us.’ Karl then quipped, ‘I don’t work for you, I work for the American people.’ To which Sheryl promptly reminded him, ‘We are the American people.’”

In light of the eyewitness’ account, another way of saying it might be, How hardened and removed from reality must a person be to refuse to be jabbed in the chest by Sheryl Crow?

To get an idea of who Laurie David is, trawl through her HuffPost columns. It’s hard to find a more concentrated collection of vile hate toward anyone who isn’t 100% in line with her thinking on global warming. Everyone’s a liar, stupid, ignorant, should be fired, impeached, removed if they are not in full agreement with her that THE WORLD IS IN EMMINENT DANGER FROM GLOBAL WARMING! A quote from ‘Grist’ a few years back says “[Interviewer]: I’ve heard that you pull up alongside Hummer drivers on the highway and yell at them. [David]: I’m very confrontational.” She believes such confrontation is “peer pressure.” Does anyone honestly think that Laurie David approached Karl Rove and said, “Excuse me, Mr. Rove, can I have a moment of your time to discuss global warming?” At which point Rove reacted by managing to make poor, helpless David feel “the most insulted I’ve ever been treated by someone.” A New York native and former TV booker and Rove delivers the worst insult ever? Wow, Rove is AMAZING!

This is a woman who ‘unapologetically’ flies in private planes everywhere yet doesn’t think twice about yelling at people driving Hummers? So why should we believe her encounter with Rove is any different than how she treats a Hummer driver? Even her version of the encounter with Rove just drips with condescension. Her comments and her columns reflect someone who feels vastly morally superior to nearly all humans on this issue – except of course her fellow celebrities. “You work for me!” she said to Rove. Well, no, constitutionally the President is elected and he appoints executive branch employees to work on behalf of the American people, which is made up of more than Crow and David. Although you wouldn’t know that listening to them. I’m sorry, but David’s a self-promoting hack with zero formal environmental training, but married well by marrying Larry David. She again proves the old Hollywood saying that “It isn’t who you know, but who you b…” oh, never mind.

This is the good ol’ U.S. of A., so, of course, you are free to consider yourselves moderates and proclaim yourselves thus if you so desire. You are also completely free to have and express your opinions. Those same freedoms are extended to me and allow me to disagree and/or opine to the contrary.

That I did not grasp the intent of the site is my error since you clearly state that it consists of “…comments, analysis, original reporting….” In my defense, I had no way of knowing that yours is an opinion piece and not reporting as it is not so identified.

You do seem to have established a healthy following, so you are obviously doing something right — at least for a goodly number of your readers. But as the paraphrased saying goes, you can’t please all of the people all of the time, and I did not find your piece to my taste.

Thus, this moderate reader will continue her search for a moderate news site that meets her standards of neutrality for reporting and that expresses opinions without indulging in gratuitous, one-sided bashing of any kind.

Please wish me luck, as I do you, for surely I will need it in my quest.

1. Joe might be moderate, doesn’t mean all of his posters and commenters are. In my old digs, one of my main commenters was fairly right-wing, though I myself am moderate with liberal leanings.

2. When you get to an ostensibly centrist Web site, differences between the moderates will be highlighted rather sharply. Posters might represent, say, thirty degrees of the political spectrum, but those thirty degrees leave a lot of room for variation.

2a. Case in point: Joe and I are probably pretty close to each other politically, but I appear to disagree with him on this particular scenario, and rather pointedly so.

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So are you saying that the region is no worse off than it was 7 years ago? That’s an interesting way to look at it. In any case, Karl’s problems supercede what’s going on in the ME and global warming denial-especially if the Justice Committee ever gets ahold of all of that accidentally deleted e-mail.

I hope that she washed her hands.

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People who also ASSUME that moderates and independents don’t think, conclude and reach opinions are also WRONG as any opinion poll will show you. And anyone who has bothered to read this site can tell that we have a lot of cobloggers who do not even agree with each other.

So, frankly, while I’m truly sad that someone feels disappointed that despite my linking to TWO news stories that they could click on and read and my expressing a viewpoint I cannot therefore be a moderate, that conclusion assumes that to be a moderate each and every one of us diverse writers on this site must conform to what a given reader thinks.

If you read this site we run some of the longest roundups with quotes from blogs of all kinds, sizes and opinions. Some say we go overboard. But on every single story we don’t do a roundup and we WILL offer our views.

The bottom line proof is any opinion poll that will show you that a)moderate s, centrists and independents do reach conclusions b)moderates, centrists and independents do not all agree with each other. Usually when someone complains it means we wrote something that they disagree with.

About once a month someone who writes a centrist, center left or center right post here gets the comment “this can’t be a moderate site” and we get the emails. We will continue to differ with each other. (Michael DVG did a post on this same thing and he has a different take. So that makes him more or less moderate?) And we will not just offer copied words from articles and links. We will offer readers our take on events. And — in case no one has noticed — readers are free to disagree with us in comments.