On the off-chance that you’re still following this thread: Art does not create mental illness, and Cho is causally and morally and legally responsible for 32 deaths. However, if depravity and murder become part of the “wallpaper” of the world – through the medium of art – then murder becomes one option that an alienated or otherwise defective person may choose.

Crappy art desensitizes the soul, and it additionally makes the murder option more salient. Cho already vicariously killed countless people in his video games, and while watching movies such as Oldboy. Murder became the method by which Cho asserted his embrionic identity. The choice was his, but crappy art pointed the way.

It also didn’t help that Cho knew that NBC would agree to co-produce his multimedia murder spectacular.

BTW, I don’t know the relation of these thoughts to Gingrich’s point, so I guess I’ve strayed far afield. Both Democrats and Republicans have talked like this over the years; about a decade ago, Al Gore would have agreed with me.

Many progressives would like to go to the table regarding gun violence and our culture that promotes it. You can blame liberals for this “moral wasteland,” but what is so immoral about desiring fewer deadly weapons in our country?

What part of so-called “liberal culture” is causing this? What part of this same culture drove McVeigh? How about Ted Haggard? Was that liberal culture as well? Where do you draw this conclusion?

The burden of proof is not on centrists or liberals, or even conservatives! All these crys of liberal culture serve to mask the real issue, and that is we have a problem with gun violence in this country. There are plenty of more liberal countries that do not have this problem. They curb gun ownership, and we have a strong correlation between such ownership and gun deaths in this country. You’re obscuring the debate with this garbage.

I’ve dealt with liberals arguing against any public standard of discourse and decency so many times it’s a little funny to hear the perplexity and anger toward such obvious statements as Gingrich’s.

Of course, republicans have their own characteristic sins to answer for. I sometimes wonder who, ulitimately, is worse for the republic.

The concern is legal precident. The Partial Birth Abortion act contains NO provisions for the mother’s health. This is dangerous legal precedent, and could be applied to many legal hot-topics outside the abortion debate. It could affect YOUR rights in another, totally unrelated, legal area.

But instead, the Supreme Court’s majority opinion cites “abortion doctors,” and a pantheon of dubious medical terms that actually don’t exist and are not derived from any medical practice being applied in America today.

This kind of ideological warfare is infinitly dangerous!

Georgia High School to Celebrate ‘First-Ever’ Integrated Prom

There was a similar story in 2003, in the 1960′s to the 1990′s segregrated proms were the norm in Newters home state.
Now the date of this story.

Class of 2007 Bucks Tradition of Holding One Prom for Blacks, One for Whites
April 23, 2007

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3026519&page=1
Will the Newter blame Libruls for kids mixing races at a prom for the first time?Will the Newter be outrage, me thinks not.

Rudi your response is exactly the deflection Newt talks about. You wont talk about it, discuss it or even consider it. This is the way of the left and actually the right for that matter. Lets talk about it.

Nope nothing to say. Were right your wrong. End of story.

Newt didn’t say anything about opening dialogue. He laid blame. You all like to blame “liberal culture.” Show me where you have any actual proof that this is the cause. Video games? Where were those when the guy in the tower at UTexas in 1966 shot people? What was the cause then, integration?

Come on! You are dancing around the issue of gun violence in this country. We should be talking about how to preserve the right to bear arms while reducing our tragic national record of gun violence that almost every other westernized country does not tolerate. For some reason, you choose to tolerate it by laying blame not on the weapon, but some vacuous leftist conspiracy that is so drawn from talking-points and void of rational thought and analysis as to be sickening.

But this coursening of our culture started when the RACES mixed and segregation became the law of the land, Since then we have lost two wars and our doctors now kill zygotes. Violence and foul language can be traced to hip-hop. Our pure teens didn’t behave this way when Past Boone was rock and roll. Those British Stones introduced our innocent children to negro delta blues. Now we have Emminem and Kid Rock.

I could even blame Repiublicans or florine in the water(tin hat Libertarians. What you fail to address is one troubled young man who slipped over the edge. Never mind that HFA and psychosis over a period of many years lead to this tragedy, it’s the fault of Libruls, neocoins and Aspertame – or mixing the races against Gods will.

KR It appears that Cho had a developement problem that metastsized to a full blow mental disorder. The press and bloggers want to label Cho as pure evil, maybe even worse than the Wackjob in Tehran.

We should pass more laws to make it better. Then we can just go on being vile moral creatures.

Jordan killing a baby is still killing a baby. No matter how you do it.

While Cho might have been deranged this is exactly the conversation we cant have because the left doesn’t want to talk about it. Instead they want to pass more legislation to regulate it. Or if your libertarian you want less legislation so its easier to have more of the same.

Newt just said….Lets talk. The left said…nothing to say…your a moron.

I understand how vile “Partial-Birth Abortions” or whatever you are equating with “brain removal of living babies while still in…” I challenge you, Sue: Break from those talking points and show me evidence, solid non-talking-point evidence of this occurring anywhere in the USA under legitimate auspices. These are ideas used to rile up their rabid base, and you have chosen to buy into them with no backing evidence to support it.

Stop blaming a madman’s rampage on some divine retribution for our immoral actions. Isn’t being judgmental one of the things noted in the bible as being reserved for God alone? So why are you spewing it all around like it was yours to dole out.